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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #3152
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,465 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It takes quite the pair of brass balls to say anything against the government online. Shows what people are driven to.


  • #3153
    lolanacho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭lolanacho


    Two Irish passengers in quarantine on luxury cruise ship amid coronavirus outbreak........ taken from the Independent, in case anyone would like to put here the link.


  • #3154
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,366 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    lolanacho wrote: »
    Two Irish passengers in quarantine on luxury cruise ship amid coronavirus outbreak........ taken from the Independent, in case anyone would like to put here the link.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/two-irish-passengers-in-quarantine-on-luxury-cruise-ship-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-38930033.html


  • #3155
    lolanacho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭lolanacho


    Coronavirus Travel Restrictions: Europe to Tighten Entry Rules for All Foreign travelers.

    It makes no sense that a single country takes measures on a continent with border-free travel between most nations,” Spahn added, explaining that the restrictions would be harmonized for Europe’s whole border-less area.


    You can read the news here: schengenvisainfo.com

    (I can’t copy and paste the link as I’m a new user ��)


  • #3156
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Fritzelly that was a very moving video, thanks for posting.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #3157
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,962 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Flights from Manchester to mainland China cancelled

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/flights-manchester-airport-mainland-china-17689544.amp
    Manchester Airport's flights to and from mainland China have been suspended amid the Coronavirus outbreak.

    Hainan Airlines, which flies from the hub three times a week in winter, has cancelled flights for thousands of passengers.


  • #3158
    padjocollins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭padjocollins


    a chink of light
    https://fortune.com/2020/02/05/coronavirus-treatment-china-gilead-patent/

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/4/21122327/coronavirus-experimental-medication-treatment-wuhan-china-gilead-hiv


  • #3159
    lolanacho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭lolanacho


    Published on The Irish Medical Times


    By Valerie Ryan 5th February 2020

    As of this afternoon, there are no confirmed cases novel coronavirus on island of Ireland

    No cases of the novel strain of coronavirus (2019-nCoV) have been confirmed on this island, in the Republic or Northern Ireland up to this afternoon (Wednesday, February 5).
    Arrangements in place between the two jurisdictions include the North’s Public Health Agency (PHA) “in ongoing communications with the health service in the Republic of Ireland regarding all aspects of novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV.
    “Both jurisdictions are working to international guidance regarding identification, management and containment of potential cases, and are keeping abreast of this developing issue,” the PHA told Irish Medical Times in a statement.
    In Dublin, the first meeting of a new Expert Advisory Group, chaired by Dr Cillian De Gascun, Laboratory Director at the National Virus Reference Laboratory, is taking place at the moment (Wednesday, February 5).
    The Expert Advisory Group, was set up to advise the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET), the Health Service Executive and others.
    This advisory group meeting follows on the heels of the NPHET meeting yesterday afternoon, (Tuesday, February 4) in the Department of Health.
    The emergency team met to review the available international data and guidance regarding the outbreak of the novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China.
    Also under focus at yesterday’s meeting was Ireland’s ongoing preparedness in line with the advice from the World Health Organization and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.
    The NPHET is to meet again next Tuesday (February 11).
    Valerie Ryan


  • #3160
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Just read that apparently all 10 german patients are in good condition with mild symptoms only and haven't received or needed any anti viral meds or oxygen support etc. According to the doctors their symptoms are comparable to a cold. Its been almost 2 weeks since the first cases there so we should expect them to be fully recovered soon, or go downhill perhaps.


  • #3161
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    auspicious wrote: »
    WHO is requesting $675 million to fund the plan for the next 3 months; $60 million of that will fund WHO operations while the rest will go toward supporting countries grappling to contain the virus. "Our message to the international community is invest today or pay more later."

    -On Tuesday, health officials released details of the deaths so far, saying that two-thirds of them were men. More than 80 percent were over 60 years old, and they typically had pre-existing health conditions such as cardiovascular diseases or diabetes.-

    Approx. 500 deaths mainly in Hubei province. Hubei population is 60 million. And Wuhan City is 11 million. Wuhan is a major economic and transport hub. If initial warnings by the likes of the 'whistleblower' doctor were not silenced then the figures I'd say would be much lower.
    Since this region is in effective lockdown it will be a hotspot that will have to be managed for months to come until hopefully a vaccine can be created.
    The management of cases in the U.S. will be a better indicator of how prepared countries can deal with containment.


    Strange. I wonder are they prioritising female patients? (Gender gap in China)


    Anyway, here's a video from advchina.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VGPYtbTk8


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  • #3162
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Just read that apparently all 10 german patients are in good condition with mild symptoms only and haven't received or needed any anti viral meds or oxygen support etc. According to the doctors their symptoms are comparable to a cold. Its been almost 2 weeks since the first cases there so we should expect them to be fully recovered soon, or go downhill perhaps.

    According to Dr John - the pneumonia symptons turned up quite late - day 10 etc.

    Speaking of the man - Video 10

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WLk-Mxydrk


    Edit:

    He is now predicting a pandemic - doesnt look happy. He was my only source of optimism - he is no longer optimistic!
    images.jpg
    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #3163
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    https://youtu.be/AbuqmziQ28I

    the culture that got china into this mess some great stats


  • #3164
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    ardinn wrote: »
    According to Dr John - the pneumonia symptons turned up quite late - day 10 etc.

    Day 10 of illness, but only day 6 in hospital i.e. day 6 after we know about them.

    If by the end of the week the German cases are all still stable we'll have a much better idea of how treatable it is in developed, uncensored (mostly), western countries. Same with the US cases, etc.


  • #3165
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/AbuqmziQ28I

    the culture that got china into this mess some great stats


    Oh yeah, you know the guy in the suit's wife is a doctor? He hardly ever mentions it.


  • #3166
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    auspicious wrote: »
    WHO is requesting $675 million to fund the plan for the next 3 months; $60 million of that will fund WHO operations while the rest will go toward supporting countries grappling to contain the virus. "Our message to the international community is invest today or pay more later."

    -On Tuesday, health officials released details of the deaths so far, saying that two-thirds of them were men. More than 80 percent were over 60 years old, and they typically had pre-existing health conditions such as cardiovascular diseases or diabetes.-

    Approx. 500 deaths mainly in Hubei province. Hubei population is 60 million. And Wuhan City is 11 million. Wuhan is a major economic and transport hub. If initial warnings by the likes of the 'whistleblower' doctor were not silenced then the figures I'd say would be much lower.
    Since this region is in effective lockdown it will be a hotspot that will have to be managed for months to come until hopefully a vaccine can be created.
    The management of cases in the U.S. will be a better indicator of how prepared countries can deal with containment.
    80% over 60, wow, and with diseases, why is China going so ape**** over this disease if it is kills mostly those who are already suspectible to death from seasonal flu.


  • #3167
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    NHS (in Eng) to order new 'pods' to 'isolate' suspected cases, and keep away from other folks in hospitals.
    Seperately, they're also trialing 'sleep pods' for overworked staff.

    Both a good idea, they could always donate either, to the homeless after the pandemic is over circa 2025.

    Let's hope these pods aren't similar to the idea put forward by a multi-millionare,
    that of using two wheely bins, he must think it's April 1st:
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10897747/multi-millionaire-sleep-pod-homeless-wheelie-bins/


  • #3168
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    wakka12 wrote: »
    80% over 60, wow, and with diseases, why is China going so ape**** over this disease if it is kills mostly those who are already suspectible to death from seasonal flu.


    I honestly have a conspiracy theory that this flue is real, but is also an excuse to isolate China and also for China to have some weird internal conflict of some kind. I mean the Premier asked for aid off Europe and he is not on good terms with Xi.



    I think the dramatic fantasy/western reading part of me is imagining a bit of a showdown here. :P


  • #3169
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    A woman was placed in an isolation ward today after showing symptoms similar to Coronavirus.

    It’s understood the patient is being treated for breathing difficulties at University Hospital Kerry in Tralee.

    The woman, who is understood to be of Chinese origin, may have been in contact with people who recently travelled from her home country.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-woman-put-isolation-tralee-21438394


  • #3170
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Chinese origin.

    With the stats emerging a few days ago that asians are more at risk im wonder is there any cases worldwide yet of any white/black people contracting the disease.

    I think even the american couple are of chinese descent!
    images.jpg
    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #3171
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    ardinn wrote: »
    Chinese origin.

    With the stats emerging a few days ago that asians are more at risk im wonder is there any cases worldwide yet of any white/black people contracting the disease.

    I think even the american couple are of chinese descent!

    Yes. Germany


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  • #3172
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    creditcarder wrote: »
    Strange. I wonder are they prioritising female patients? (Gender gap in China)


    Anyway, here's a video from advchina.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VGPYtbTk8

    I posted about it previously (and was accused of racism for mentioning it) Asian men have 5 times more ACE2 in lungs which makes them more suspectable to this virus apparently
    See previous posts for links to the articles


  • #3173
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Yes. Germany

    Are you sure - there is a report detailing the bavarian outbreak, now, they say "man living in so and so" but we are not certain of their ethnicity - they do say chinese man and chinese woman on a few other occasions however.

    Is there confirmed reports of white germans with the disease?


    Chronology of the virus in Bavaria

    January 16: A Chinese employee of the Webasto company received a visit in Shanghai from her parents from the Wuhan region, which is severely affected by the coronavirus.

    January 19-23rd: The woman then visited the Webasto company in Stockdorf, Bavaria. She showed no symptoms of illness and took part in a seminar on January 21st, together with a 33-year-old Webasto employee from nearby Kaufering. Another Chinese employee, who would later be diagnosed with an infection, is also said to have been present at meetings.
    images.jpg
    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #3174
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    ardinn wrote: »
    Chinese origin.
    With the stats emerging a few days ago that asians are more at risk im wonder is there any cases worldwide yet of any white/black people contracting the disease.
    I think even the american couple are of chinese descent!

    China (again) is where it started, and was left to run unchecked for about a month thanks to bat-soup and wet markets. That's the reason Hubei has 24,000 confirmed cases.
    Chinese are also world travellers (peak holiday season), cases in other countries are due to travellers (from China) arriving, such as the American couple or their close relatives.

    Speculating that only Chinese can get this virus is wildy speculative, indeed silly.


  • #3175
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    I posted about it previously (and was accused of racism for mentioning it) Asian men have 5 times more ACE2 in lungs which makes them more suspectable to this virus apparently
    See previous posts for links to the articles

    I understand they are more suseptable (eh spell that??)

    I am wondering if however there are confirmed reports of non asians having the disease.

    Im not asking to be racist - just generally curious and to be honest hopeful there isnt! (sorry)
    images.jpg
    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #3176
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ardinn wrote: »
    Chinese origin.

    With the stats emerging a few days ago that asians are more at risk im wonder is there any cases worldwide yet of any white/black people contracting the disease.

    I think even the american couple are of chinese descent!

    I would imagine some of the h2h in America, Canada, Germany and Australia had at least a couple of white people


  • #3177
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »
    China (again) is where it started, and was left to run unchecked for about a month thanks to bat-soup and wet markets. That's the reason Hubei has 24,000 confirmed cases.
    Chinese are also world travellers (peak holiday season), cases in other countries are due to travellers (from China) arriving, such as the American couple or their close relatives.

    Speculating that only Chinese can get this virus is wildy speculative, indeed silly.

    As posted above - The chinese are far more susceptible (i got it) to the disease

    Your silly!
    images.jpg
    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #3178
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    ardinn wrote: »
    Are you sure - there is a report detailing the bavarian outbreak, now, they say "man living in so and so" but we are not certain of their ethnicity - they do say chinese man and chinese woman on a few other occasions however.

    Is there confirmed reports of white germans with the disease?


    Chronology of the virus in Bavaria

    January 16: A Chinese employee of the Webasto company received a visit in Shanghai from her parents from the Wuhan region, which is severely affected by the coronavirus.

    January 19-23rd: The woman then visited the Webasto company in Stockdorf, Bavaria. She showed no symptoms of illness and took part in a seminar on January 21st, together with a 33-year-old Webasto employee from nearby Kaufering. Another Chinese employee, who would later be diagnosed with an infection, is also said to have been present at meetings.


    We know some of that info is wrong now. She was showing symptoms and was taking medication for it


  • #3179
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I would imagine some of the h2h in America, Canada, Germany and Australia had at least a couple of white people

    America no - totonto has a HUGE asian population so probably not - germany I have listed as unknown but probable that it is in fact all asian patients. no clue about austria!
    images.jpg
    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #3180
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ardinn wrote: »
    As posted above - The chinese are far more susceptible (i got it) to the disease

    Your silly!

    I think the study that implied that only had one sample though. There arent enough cases outside China to be able to say that confidently at all


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  • #3181
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    I posted about it previously (and was accused of racism for mentioning it) Asian men have 5 times more ACE2 in lungs which makes them more suspectable to this virus apparently
    See previous posts for links to the articles

    The Lancet also said this from a very small, (non-peer reviewed) singular study (sample of 8 with N.1 postive) study was unfounded, and didn't even get mentioned in their report's findings.

    The virus started in China, ran amok there and now most victims are Chinese.
    Not a great surprise.


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