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General Election TV debates

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    #2612
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    C__MC wrote: »
    Remember when Brian Cowen was hungover in galway when the country was in crises
    God fianna fail were some joke shop and yet there on the cusp of returning to power
    Leave it to the Irish

    While his performance that day was disgraceful and he was massively out of his depth, in fairness to Cowen, I think Bertie threw him under the bus when he saw the (economic) winds changing and legged it.

    FG of course rely on such trips down memory lane, but while they're right to a point - it's really just to deflect attention from their own scandals, waste, incompetence.


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    #2613
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Ardent wrote: »
    Leo with a home run with the John Delaney analogy LOL

    Dunno about a homerun to be fair, Delaney went on a slice of his bender whilst under Leo's tenure as sports minister.


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    #2614
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Finty Lemon wrote: »
    Cracks appearing all theough the SF manifesto.

    So many holes in it. Its as if it were strafed with an AK47.


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    #2615
    Negative_G
    Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Jizique wrote: »
    Wasn’t one of Haugheys kids running a helicopter company - he could do it for 500m

    Bargain.


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    #2616
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Ireland could do with a Monster Raving Loony Party (a different one from the National Party).


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    #2617
    Vivienne23
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭Vivienne23


    It wasnt me123 wrote: »
    Yes, why not? Work for your money - especially the youth - some of them came out of school straight into the welfare office - they have no skills, no experience, some are illiterate, can’t dress for work etc. Why not have them join the county councils as trainees, learning gardening, maintenance jobs, office work, etc. Social welfare is supposed to help you until you get a job - not be a career move. Don’t make it attractive to be on the dole. And let our indigenous brethren join in as well - everyone should work.

    Agreed nobody should get anything for doing nothing , except the disabled , elderly , sick


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    #2618
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    I was predicting the rise of SF for a few years now as I draw many similarities between Irish and Spanish politics.

    The rise of the socialists there in the 30s is similar to the rise of SF. The socialists looked to redistribute wealth, particularly farmers land.

    That in turn led to a reaction by many Spanish that led to Falange Espanola and the Carlists linking up with the Spanish army of Africa and Franco.

    So SF may get into power but they may face a backlash


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    #2619
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,823 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    When you hit 65 and have to retire you will then be means tested for the dole after 9 months on it and if you have provided savings for your future will get no dole after this time and next payment will be pension years later.


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    #2620
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    ??? you even watching?

    They see and hear what they want to see and hear.

    She's been shown up tonight. Great to see.


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    #2621
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,826 ✭✭✭nerd69


    Im sure it's been said before but I'd make a donation for another debate chaired by Vinny b


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    #2622
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    I don't disagree with paying to see a gp, northern Ireland is a joke doctors surgery awash with people (speaking from experience), don't pay for doctors visit and don't pay for a prescription.

    I used to live in a country with excellent health care. Either a gp visit or an xray came with a nominal fee of 5 quid. Probably equivalent of 15 quid here. Enough to make you think twice for juniors sniffles but not a barrier for anyone who was sick.

    They need to do that for everyone.


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    #2623
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Venom wrote: »
    No surprise when a magic money tree is the basis for their entire manifesto.

    Northern Bank bank notes surely ?


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    #2624
    mzungu
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,307 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    On demographics Mary Lou waffling and avoiding giving detail.


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    #2625
    deisedevil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    CPTM wrote: »
    Will their supporters see them though. Lovely world they live in, just not the real world.

    Ah the real world. Where bankers, property developers and corrupt politicians can live without fear of being held accountable for the damage they have done and continue to do to this country.


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    #2626
    Phoebas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Answer the demographics question


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    #2627
    TheRiverman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    I will be voting for an Independent, nothing here to convince me otherwise.Mary Lou a huge disappointment.


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    #2628
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    The economy.. neither FG or FF covered themselves in glory in the last 40 years. FF 2002-2010 and FG 1982-1987.

    And God knows what SF would do.


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    #2629
    gyppo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    L1011 wrote: »
    In countries where the system actually works, yes. It doesn't here.

    But it'll cost a hell of a lot less with vastly better outcomes to fix that - either by making the Air Corps attractive enough for pilots not to leave or getting someone like CHC to do it - than to try make the regional/rural A&Es function to an acceptable level.

    I really dont think it would work. You thin a helicopter pilot/crew will land in unknown terrain in a rural area at nighttime without clear visibility of any obstacles?

    I see the medivac helicopter working from Athlone every day, and its an absolutely superb service, but not at night....


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    #2630
    Underground
    Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Underground


    Housing crisis - encouraging people to procreate.

    And SF are apparently top of the polls??


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    #2631
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    nerd69 wrote: »
    Im sure it's been said before but I'd make a donation for another debate chaired by Vinny b

    People are nostalgic about Vincent. He was a terrible presenter who mistook bluster and outrage for political debate.


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    #2632
    BQQ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭BQQ


    MM is a pure waffler.
    He's like a middle manager spouting the latest buzzwords.

    Scary that we're on the brink of returning the people that drove the country into the gutter back to power.


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    #2633
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,689 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So no riding then.


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    #2634
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Does Mary Lou ever answer a direct question without saying let me point out first.....

    Straight out of Gerrys book.

    She's has been talking to alot of people, people who have no facts or figures to back up anything


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    #2635
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Slightly off topic but why is unemployment benefit never reduced in times of near full employment?

    Nobody who is in receipt if unemployment benefit should struggle to find a job when that is the economic situation. Those who can't work should be on disability instead.


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    #2636
    It wasnt me123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    Vivienne23 wrote: »
    Agreed nobody should get anything for doing nothing , except the disabled , elderly , sick

    There will always be those that can’t work for lots of reasons health, etc but that would be aa small minority of the population - everyone else get off your hole and contribute. No free anything. You want to see aa dr and have a medical card, pay 10 euro. You want a prescription, pay 2 euro per prescription. Nothing for free.


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    #2637
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    'People are living longer'

    Finally a problem Mary Lou has an answer for. Time to make some phone calls and get the band back together.


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    #2638
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    People are nostalgic about Vincent. He was a terrible presenter who mistook bluster and outrage for political debate.

    He was entertaining though and that's all a lot of people are interested in.


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    #2639
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sinn Fein website- you can "learn more" about all of their manifesto on the various tabs..... except for.....the..

    "Cost of Delivering our Proposals" tab

    https://www.sinnfein.ie


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    #2640
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    TheRiverman wrote: »
    I will be voting for an Independent, nothing here to convince me otherwise.Mary Lou a huge disappointment.

    That really shooting yourself in the foot. It just puts a non-event taking up a seat, reducing the options to form a stable competent government. I would advise spoliing your vote is a less harmful venting of your frustration.


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    #2641
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Vivienne23 wrote: »
    That’s no harm tho is it ?

    Lots of undesirables around my area using hunting as a guise , I understand foxes need to be culled but there might be better ways than running them ragged by a pack of dogs

    The hunters Mary Lou wants to stop are the daytime Hunter's, not the crew hunting at night


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