3100 complaints - 6 months - 1 guy - DUB

FionnK86 · 24-07-2019 10:18am #1

Do DAA have to reply to each one of these? Link below...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-person-files-over-3-100-complaints-about-dublin-airport-noise-in-six-months-1.3965098?localLinksEnabled=false

Kev11491 · 24-07-2019 11:20am

FionnK86 wrote: »

Do DAA have to reply to each one of these? Link below...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-person-files-over-3-100-complaints-about-dublin-airport-noise-in-six-months-1.3965098?localLinksEnabled=false

You would think that the individual would just move.

LoonyLovegood · 24-07-2019 11:59am

I live on the flightpath, it's a bit annoying, especially at night, but hey, it happens. Ongar was built well after the airport, if you move there you should half expect it.

sjb25 · 24-07-2019 12:06pm

FionnK86 wrote: »

Do DAA have to reply to each one of these? Link below...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-person-files-over-3-100-complaints-about-dublin-airport-noise-in-six-months-1.3965098?localLinksEnabled=false

Should get this as a reply

https://youtu.be/CrYmOEvDEUE

FionnK86 · 24-07-2019 12:41pm

I’ve never reported noise levels - the newer aircraft are definitely quieter and I live in Whitehall which isn’t too close to the path.

However, if each complaint is sent via email, chances are they get a reference number for each email and a member of staff in DAA must reply to each one.

If that is indeed correct, we are paying taxes (semi-state DAA) for this guys ignorance to the fact Ongar isn’t in the flight path and more than likely the airport was there before they lived there with even louder aircraft.

I know that’s a lot of if’s and but’s but nonetheless something should be said to the complaining party to stop wasting time as the airport is not going to stop because of their complaints.

Nijmegen · 24-07-2019 1:06pm

I think this was in another thread a few weeks back. Someone with a lot of time on their hands.

john boye · 24-07-2019 1:32pm

Nijmegen wrote: »

I think this was in another thread a few weeks back. Someone with a lot of time on their hands.

Yes I think the complainant might have accidentally outed himself/herself in it.

cournioni · 24-07-2019 1:37pm

Don’t like it? Move. The airport was there long before this person I’m sure, flight path hasn’t changed in 15 years either, yet the complaints have only started to flood in.

24-07-2019 3:45pm

john boye wrote: »

Yes I think the complainant might have accidentally outed himself/herself in it.

Correct

FionnK86 · 24-07-2019 3:49pm

john boye wrote: »

Yes I think the complainant might have accidentally outed himself/herself in it.

Would you've thread link? Couldn't find it myself...

dropzone · 24-07-2019 4:05pm

FionnK86 wrote: »

Would you've thread link? Couldn't find it myself...

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057953817/1

I think this is the thread, hope the link works.

FionnK86 · 24-07-2019 4:09pm

dropzone wrote: »

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057953817/1

I think this is the thread, hope the link works.

:eek::eek::eek:

Stephen Strange · 24-07-2019 5:53pm

Surely it must be getting close to the stage where an involuntary committal for the complainant should be considered....

1123heavy · 25-07-2019 12:24am

It can be quite loud in Ongar, it's not an issue at all when RWY 10 is in use, but the departures out of RWY 28 (which is the majority of the time) can get very loud regardless of whether they turn north or south. It's most noticeable with the late night summer departures like Aegean and Blue Air, the Blue Air causes an awful racket because it's at around 2am and there are no environmental noises like road traffic etc to drown it out like daytime departures have. Morning departures can sometimes wake you up but it's become a part of life at this stage.

Stephen Strange · 25-07-2019 12:39am

Amazingly enough, the runways were pointing in the same direction when ongar was built and everybody chose to live there.

Pat Dunne · 25-07-2019 2:26pm

1123heavy wrote: »

It can be quite loud in Ongar, it's not an issue at all when RWY 10 is in use, but the departures out of RWY 28 (which is the majority of the time) can get very loud regardless of whether they turn north or south. It's most noticeable with the late night summer departures like Aegean and Blue Air, the Blue Air causes an awful racket because it's at around 2am and there are no environmental noises like road traffic etc to drown it out like daytime departures have. Morning departures can sometimes wake you up but it's become a part of life at this stage.

Loud, not that many Antanov's over Ongar.
I have lived close to general Ongar area for over 20 year and I can seldom says that the air traffic over the area is in anyway loud.

Polar101 · 26-07-2019 4:30am

I can hear the Blue Air flight late at night, but never felt aircraft noise was an issue in Ongar.

But I lived on the "landing path" of a major airport in the 80's - then you had to stop a conversation and wait for an aircraft to pass, or you couldn't hear the other person. So maybe I am more used to the noise than some other people.

I find trains make more noise in Ongar than planes.

1123heavy · 26-07-2019 3:00pm

Polar101 wrote: »

I can hear the Blue Air flight late at night, but never felt aircraft noise was an issue in Ongar.

But I lived on the "landing path" of a major airport in the 80's - then you had to stop a conversation and wait for an aircraft to pass, or you couldn't hear the other person. So maybe I am more used to the noise than some other people.

I find trains make more noise in Ongar than planes.

Funny that cos i've never heard a train once in all my 10 years of living in Ongar.

This is probably something that comes down to where you live exactly. I certainly hear them regularly and even more so when they use RWY 28 and turn south. I'm not necessarily complaining but simply stating my observations from living where I do in Ongar.

LorelaiG · 26-07-2019 3:42pm

I live in Mulhuddart. Planes regularly fly over and near my house. I've nver once complained. I choose to live here... the airport was there long before the houses were. Give over moaning about noise.

HTCOne · 26-07-2019 5:17pm

I mean this in no way disparagingly, but I suspect this person may have mental health issues and needs help. I hope they get the assistance and treatment they need.

Odyssey 2005 · 26-07-2019 5:33pm

sjb25 wrote: »

Should get this as a reply

https://youtu.be/CrYmOEvDEUE

Should get this as a reply

https://youtu.be/68EexjJyibc

billie1b · 26-07-2019 10:19pm

1123heavy wrote: »

Funny that cos i've never heard a train once in all my 10 years of living in Ongar.

This is probably something that comes down to where you live exactly. I certainly hear them regularly and even more so when they use RWY 28 and turn south. I'm not necessarily complaining but simply stating my observations from living where I do in Ongar.

In Ongar myself for over 10 years, located close enough directly across from the bus terminus, planes regularly fly over my house also, hardly ever hear them anymore unless late at night and low cloud, very very rarely hear trains either and i’m direct line of sight with Hansfield station, only thing I hear from the trains is the odd blow of the horn late at night.

Strumms · 27-07-2019 8:01pm

The guy is writing about 8 complaint letters per day on average. Those are not the actions of an individual free of psychological disabilities. He needs help. On the other hand the DAA when they get the letters just need to consign them to the bin. It is foolhardy wasting time, resources and money that could and should be spent better and on more pressing issues.

Phil.x · 27-07-2019 11:04pm

When i lived in cabra aircraft flew over, now in clonsilla beside ongar aircraft fly over, its no big deal, nobody i know has ever said "bloody planes".

Tenger · 28-07-2019 12:12pm

The issue here is obviously personal rather than actual noise.
My issue would be that if this was person to person it would be viewed as harassment. If the DAA have to answer each complaint then it is just time wasting. After a reasonable number of complaints (2 per day?) there should be a charge for time used to reply.

Collie D · 28-07-2019 12:23pm

If they’re calling in the complaints they should leave them on hold with the music replaced by a recording of planes landing.

You’d nearly need a full time member of staff for this one person.

LXFlyer · 28-07-2019 2:59pm

Strumms wrote: »

The guy is writing about 8 complaint letters per day on average. Those are not the actions of an individual free of psychological disabilities. He needs help. On the other hand the DAA when they get the letters just need to consign them to the bin. It is foolhardy wasting time, resources and money that could and should be spent better and on more pressing issues.

It is actually double that amount on average in the last six months..

Tenger wrote: »

The issue here is obviously personal rather than actual noise.
My issue would be that if this was person to person it would be viewed as harassment. If the DAA have to answer each complaint then it is just time wasting. After a reasonable number of complaints (2 per day?) there should be a charge for time used to reply.

I would assume they’re using the web form.

https://www.dublinairport.com/corporate/community-affairs/noise/complaint-form

L1011 · 28-07-2019 3:06pm

I'd take a guess that it's at least partially scripted also. Someone got caught doing that when they reported flights that didn't operate due to weather in the UK

FionnK86 · 04-02-2020 6:30pm

They’re back at it again, prolific complainant from Ongar accounted for 7786 complaints (21/day) in 2019?

Nijmegen · 04-02-2020 6:56pm

It’s the voices in their head I’d be more concerned about than the aircraft noise, with that level of determination on this topic...

04-02-2020 7:14pm

Hardly playing the long game here and hoping that DAA will give them a few euro, instead of having someone practically hired just to deal with his issues?

Could be a retired chap longing for a couple of Euro and has no shortage of time.

Riesen_Meal · 04-02-2020 7:18pm

I grew up in Santry most of my life and I'm back here now and I just don't even notice it anymore, that chap in Ongar must certainly have other issue's...

DaveyDave · 04-02-2020 7:35pm

I live in Lucan so not close to the airport but the original article mentioned complaints from Celbridge, Maynooth and Tallaght. Bollocks, I'm closer than they are and don't hear a single thing from the airport.

I work East of the airport near Blanch and used to work in Finglas, it's never been an issue. I hear them passing by but barely notice it most of the time. I see a plane every 5 minutes or so during the day. You wouldn't hear it over a TV, kettle etc.

I've heard two within 90 seconds of each other at work and it's really not that loud. Certainly nowhere near as loud as cars passing by my house in the estate.

L1011 · 04-02-2020 7:37pm

You can definitely hear A320s without the blowoff vortex mod approaching 10 on specific paths from Maynooth. So distance is only one factor

The 25 year old surface on the motorway creates more noise though!

DaveyDave · 04-02-2020 7:43pm

L1011 wrote: »

You can definitely hear A320s without the blowoff vortex mod approaching 10 on specific paths from Maynooth. So distance is only one factor

The 25 year old surface on the motorway creates more noise though!

I stand corrected!

Car99 · 04-02-2020 7:47pm

L1011 wrote: »

You can definitely hear A320s without the blowoff vortex mod approaching 10 on specific paths from Maynooth. So distance is only one factor

The 25 year old surface on the motorway creates more noise though!

Do A320's with the blow off vortex mod get cheaper landing fees in Dublin similar to other big airports?

LXFlyer · 04-02-2020 9:21pm

FionnK86 wrote: »

They’re back at it again, prolific complainant from Ongar accounted for 7786 complaints (21/day) in 2019?

Even worse - last July they complained on average 147 times each day for the month.

A second individual has now joined in.

That level of complaining really is ludicrous and I'd have to question whether the airport should even be dealing with them full stop.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/individual-made-8000-noise-complaints-to-dublin-airport-in-one-year-38924487.html

ohnonotgmail · 04-02-2020 10:49pm

Do they actually do anything with the complaints apart from file them in the round filing cabinet?

john boye · 04-02-2020 10:52pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Do they actually do anything with the complaints apart from file them in the round filing cabinet?

Pass them to the Mental health commission hopefully.

Guy:Incognito · 04-02-2020 10:54pm

What outcome is the person after? A reply that says "apologies for that, we'll shut the airport down straight away"?

Nijmegen · 04-02-2020 11:12pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What outcome is the person after? A replay that says "apologies for that, we'll shut the airport down straight away"?

I live in a new build estate under the flight path. Every now and again someone newly arrived joins the residents Facebook group and is linking off to petitions or taking readings of decibel levels. People are just.... well.....

eiei0 · 05-02-2020 2:13am

Is he the guy who was a slightly outside the zone that gets free sound insulation for there home??

sort of took any credibility from his complaints when he mentioned that,

con___manx1 · 05-02-2020 2:18am

Doubt the guy who made those complaints has a job. Who would have the time to put that many complaints in.

endacl · 05-02-2020 2:20am

Is there a complaints version of an Isaac Wunder order? Where the complaint can be ignored based purely on the complainant in question?

Feisar · 05-02-2020 2:25am

cournioni wrote: »

Don’t like it? Move. The airport was there long before this person I’m sure, flight path hasn’t changed in 15 years either, yet the complaints have only started to flood in.

But the law states the tort of noise pollution starts when their is an inconvenience. For example I could be breaking rock in my backyard for twenty years unhindered, however you move in next door and complain and I’ll need to stop

smurfjed · 26-04-2020 3:34pm

I feel sorry for this person right now, I’m wondering how they are spending their time considering the lack of flights to complain about.

Tenger · 26-04-2020 4:04pm

Maybe 15-20 a day? One for each departure

john boye · 26-04-2020 4:09pm

He must actually look forward to a flight going over these days, gives him something to do.

Hopefully this break gives him a chance to get another hobby, something more wholesome maybe.

zell12 · 17-04-2022 11:55am

The [Ongar] complainant lodged 12,272 complaints during 2021 with DAA at an average rate of 34 cases daily. Reports from the individual accounted for 90% of complaints received about noise from aircraft

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-airport-got-12272-noise-complaints-last-year-from-just-one-person-41560228.html

Blut2 · 17-04-2022 1:01pm

Wow... you'd wonder how much time per week they spend submitting complaints. An average of 34 a day every single day of the year, it must be a significant chunk of their waking hours.

donkey balls · 17-04-2022 4:46pm

I used to rent a house in the same area of the lad making the complaints, And have friends living in the same area over 20 years now. And they hardly ever hear departing aircraft.

Where I'm living now is directly in the flight path and you get used to departing arriving aircraft, A new estate went up about 6 years ago across from me and I know a couple living there and they complained about the noise, Obviously they didn't do their homework when selecting a home.

Then we had some PBP councillor complaining about the new RWY even though the flight path is a not even near the estate.

3100 complaints - 6 months - 1 guy - DUB

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