new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 12:52AM

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04-02-2020 12:56AM

So those graphs are good news if accurate. For a while last week, it felt like it was growing exponentially.

fritzelly · 04-02-2020 01:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So those graphs are good news if accurate. For a while last week, it felt like it was growing exponentially.

Exponentially is a bad way to look at it - when the per day numbers are increasing it is not good
Today is the biggest increase in infections and deaths

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 01:04AM

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04-02-2020 01:06AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Exponentially is a bad way to look at it
Today is the biggest increase in infections and deaths

It's an infectious disease. I care about percentage increases.

imfml · 04-02-2020 01:11AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's an infectious disease. I care about percentage increases.

Agree but China doesn't appear to have the capacity to test all those presenting at hospital. Even if they did without WHO verification the numbers are meaningless IMHO

04-02-2020 01:14AM

I'm just glad it's not doubling every day like it felt for a few days last week.

gozunda · 04-02-2020 01:14AM

Channel 4 on our man in the Wirrel currently under quarantine in the UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73B2jaDP0rY

See description under Video - for links to all his videos

fritzelly · 04-02-2020 01:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's an infectious disease. I care about percentage increases.

Tis grand then - as long as its not increasing by 50% everyday there is nothing to worry about

wakka12 · 04-02-2020 01:15AM

The American couples condition has worsened and they have been transferred to a new facility in SF capable of caring for them

04-02-2020 01:17AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Tis grand then - as long as its not increasing by 50% everyday there is nothing to worry about

I didn't say there's nothing to worry about. I said it's good news the percentage increase is dropping. If I thought there was nothing to worry about, I wouldn't think that was good news, would I.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 01:33AM

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1224505349530472453

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 01:42AM

We need new emojis

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04-02-2020 02:01AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

We need new emojis

Quantum Erasure · 04-02-2020 02:01AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

We need new emojis

seems to predominantly affect yellow emojis....

04-02-2020 02:02AM

This forced extra week off work because of the virus is giving me way too much free time.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 02:38AM

Reports of first death in Hong Kong.

If true expect the border to be completely shut under the mounting public protests to have them shut.

Hong Kong has already shut 10 of the 13 border entry points.

China, in the round, is going to pay a severe price on so many levels for this outbreak.

ardinn · 04-02-2020 02:42AM

Dr John Campbells latest video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7D3AoNdp84

bodhrandude · 04-02-2020 02:52AM

Fcuk the Hong Kong Death, he was only 39 years old. :eek: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-03/death-toll-tops-400-u-s-braces-for-pandemic-virus-update

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 02:54AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Fcuk the Hong Kong Death, he was only 39 years old. :eek: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-03/death-toll-tops-400-u-s-braces-for-pandemic-virus-update

If yer wan in charge on behalf of the CCP does not close the border she will be run out with pitchforks.

tuxy · 04-02-2020 03:10AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Fcuk the Hong Kong Death, he was only 39 years old and had an underlying illness.

Yes, the old and people with an underlying illness are very high risk.

04-02-2020 04:04AM

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302810/

Another potential transmission method, in the event of outbreaks in Ireland beware communal toilets

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 04:31AM

There are now 12 confirmed cases in Australia.

They are considering a second evacuation from Wuhan.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/04/coronavirus-live-updates-china-wuhan-outbreak-death-toll-latest-news-update

bodhrandude · 04-02-2020 04:55AM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302810/

Another potential transmission method, in the event of outbreaks in Ireland beware communal toilets

Very interesting.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 05:11AM

President Xi warns virus 'directly affects' economic and social stability of China

The Chinese state news agency Xinhau reports that China’s President Xi has made an important speech to the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee on Monday to address the coronavirus outbreak.

The outcome of the epidemic prevention and control directly affects people’s lives and health, the overall economic and social stability and the country’s opening-up, Xinhau says.

Xinhau says Xi demanded “resolute opposition against bureaucratism and the practice of formalities for formalities’ sake in the prevention work”.

Those who disobey the unified command or shirk off responsibilities will be punished, Xi said. The report said that the party and government leaders supervising them would also be held accountable in severe cases.

Chinese Communist Party and their leader is looking mighty weak

SeaBreezes · 04-02-2020 05:22AM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Maybe 'you' hold a minute there, stop putting your filter on my comments. You seem determined to put a racist spin on this.

The virus started in a huge city in China, at a wet (illegal) market, the authorities failed to act in time, so then is it any surprise now that so many Chinese have it? Basic math bro'.

Also you keep refering to a single (non-peer and non-reviewd) study which looked at a total of 8 donors, and exactly one of them was Asian. An N factor of 1.
On top of it you have linked to some randomer dude on the twitter aka 'HarmlessYardDog?' not even worthy of a mouse click.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1223275121403662337
Like I said, you're hardly building a case here, and he's hardly the Lancet.

Not to mention your constant references and filters to males only, so females and youngsters (as well of course as non-Chinese) can't catch this flu?
Again, bizzare ideas, indeed classic conspiracy soup material:

Your insinuations of this being a Chinese (or even Male Asian) 'only' flu is simply unfounded, unproven and indeed racist. It's simply the virus basin source location, nothing more and nothing less, so stop the spin.

The way things are going it could turn easily into a global situation, then it won't matter one bit which nation has the most cases as it spreads, it will be a problem for humanity as a whole.

Yet again YOU are saying this, and suggesting racism not me.
I am not suggesting anything of the kind. This is a serious virus which Can affect ANYONE. And I agree it has a global pandemic possibility just like Spanish flu.

It is similar to SARS with the ACE2 component (as per the lancet journal)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

with that ability to use human ACE2 as a receptor, thus having replication potentials in human cells.

Are you saying the lancet is now to be ignored because someone retweeted it on twitter?

And yes, there are many non peer reviewed papers out there. Thanks be to god, as soon as anything new is known about this virus it's published immediately so the global community can learn and help.

If your genetic makeup includes more ACE2, then you are MORE susceptible to to complications from this awful virus.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 05:28AM

South Korean airlines suspending more than half of their flights to China (55 out of 100). Other routes to China reduced including Beijing.

04-02-2020 05:42AM

9 now in Vietnam. Another from the group who went to Wuhan.

Yurt2 · 04-02-2020 05:49AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

South Korean airlines suspending more than half of their flights to China (55 out of 100). Other routes to China reduced including Beijing.

Probably more commercial considerations than anything. No point in flying 20% full planes around and losing money hand over fist.

That said, this has the potential to mangle the regional economy if it rumbles on. I saw on CNN that a motorbike factory in Korea had to cease production because they couldn't source just 1 part from China.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-02-2020 06:12AM

China is in the process of being isolated from the rest of the world because no one believes them. They don't believe the origin, they don't believe the numbers and they certainly don't believe the CCP politburo propaganda.

This is far worse than the CCP allows the world to know.

In fairness you can understand it - their survival depends on internal belief.

If they can protect Beijing and Shanghai from the worst of the epidemic then they live (severely weakened) to go on and that's the game now for the CCP. Do what they can inland but protect the coastal cities at all cost.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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