new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Reckless Abandonment · 03-02-2020 04:49PM

enricoh wrote: »

A mate's co- worker was on the flight from Moscow when the Chinese lad took ill. Yet man was taken off the plane at the airport. The rest of the flight were told to stay home as much as possible and if any issues on Sunday ring straight away.
Not exactly inspiring from the authorities!

What should they do with the other 200 odd people?

givyjoe · 03-02-2020 04:52PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

They pretty much said the reason for it was to support less developed countries. That's it.

So it does: https://corporatemaldives.com/coronavirus-is-declared-a-global-health-emergency-as-threat-rises-outside-china/

Can you tell me where it says this is a low risk to developed countries?

Rhys Essien · 03-02-2020 04:54PM

Kerala in India has now declared a State disaster.

https://twitter.com/ani/status/1224347230926073857?s=21

daheff · 03-02-2020 04:54PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

What should they do with the other 200 odd people?

Isolate them somewhere. Like UK are doing with people it flew back from China.

Ignoring the issue isn't helping.

SeaBreezes · 03-02-2020 04:59PM

daheff wrote: »

Isolate them somewhere. Like UK are doing with people it flew back from China.

Ignoring the issue isn't helping.

Except for the bus drivers who had no protective gear and were sent home

SeaBreezes · 03-02-2020 05:04PM

silverharp wrote: »

I'd assume viruses don't have ethnic preferences but it would be interesting if this one did

But they do. Spanish flu while high mortality rate among Europeans was particularly deadly for Inuit, Native American and Polynesian populations.

On twitter it seems this virus affects Asian males more, but early days yet. Nobody really knows.

Scrabbles38 · 03-02-2020 05:05PM

givyjoe wrote: »

So it does: https://corporatemaldives.com/coronavirus-is-declared-a-global-health-emergency-as-threat-rises-outside-china/

Can you tell me where it says this is a low risk to developed countries?

, as he is called, stressed the decision was not meant to criticize the Chinese response to the outbreak, which he and other WHO officials have gone out of the way to praise. Instead, he said, the declaration of a public health emergency of international concern, or PHEIC, is meant to help support less developed countries and to try to prevent the virus from spreading in those places that are less equipped to detect the disease and handle infections.

That’s from the link you posted.. that’s why they up it to global..

ardinn · 03-02-2020 05:08PM

Very surprised this hasnt reached Africa or the middle east at least - it jumped from the far east right over to Europe and america!

4068ac1elhodqr · 03-02-2020 05:09PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Except for the bus drivers who had no protective gear and were sent home

The '2nd arriva'l Driver(s) via the 4 horsemen coaches, seem not to have taken any advice onboard.
As one of the 2nd load of passengers was taken ill, and attended to, the Driver can be seen chillaxing.
He did sport a wooly hat and moustache though:

4068ac1elhodqr · 03-02-2020 05:13PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

On twitter it seems this virus affects Asian males more, but early days yet. Nobody really knows.

It effects people (M+F) more close to the actual virus basin and epicentre, as would be expected, that is all. Conspiracy Theories... ->

4068ac1elhodqr · 03-02-2020 05:15PM

ardinn wrote: »

Very surprised this hasnt reached Africa or the middle east at least - it jumped from the far east right over to Europe and america!

A 'handful' in the US & Europe, and one in UAE.

Besides, not many folks in Beijing fly back and fourth to Timbuktu.
again... Conspiracy Theories... ->

circadian · 03-02-2020 05:20PM

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Kerala in India has now declared a State disaster.

https://twitter.com/ani/status/1224347230926073857?s=21

Taking no chances, Kerala would be one of the better developed States in India so they should have better infrastructure for this but obviously see the need to declare an emergency with 3 cases.

givyjoe · 03-02-2020 05:23PM

Scrabbles38 wrote: »

, as he is called, stressed the decision was not meant to criticize the Chinese response to the outbreak, which he and other WHO officials have gone out of the way to praise. Instead, he said, the declaration of a public health emergency of international concern, or PHEIC, is meant to help support less developed countries and to try to prevent the virus from spreading in those places that are less equipped to detect the disease and handle infections.

That’s from the link you posted.. that’s why they up it to global..

Did you read my question?? Where does it say this is a low risk to developed countries? And precisely what is meant by low risk? Low risk of what? Low risk of cases developing.. already happened. Low risk of it spreading and overwhelming health services..well whats stopping what's happening in China happening here, nothing if our first reaction to a possible case is anything to go by.

Rhys Essien · 03-02-2020 05:23PM

ardinn wrote: »

Very surprised this hasnt reached Africa or the middle east at least - it jumped from the far east right over to Europe and america!

https://twitter.com/narimangharib/status/1224270513809215488?s=21

There are also several suspected cases throughout Africa.

Duke of Url · 03-02-2020 05:27PM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

A 'handful' in the US & Europe, and one in UAE.

Besides, not many folks in Beijing fly back and fourth to Timbuktu.
again... Conspiracy Theories... ->

UAE health authorities confirmed there are five cases of the 2019-nCoV respiratory virus in the country.

But sure this person is grand as there were probably not Chinese

Dublin airport was the scene of another coronavirus alert today after a man on a flight from Dubai reported flu like symptoms.

A spokesman for Emirates airlines confirmed a passenger on board flight EK161 which was due in Dublin around noon complained of flu-like symptoms.

As a precaution, the Health Service Executive (HSE) was alerted.

After boarding the aircraft, the HSE cleared the passenger and deemed the person was not at risk of the virus.

theguzman · 03-02-2020 05:28PM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

From reddit

China, a perfect example of the left, shutdown and censor everything you don't agree with.

wakka12 · 03-02-2020 05:31PM

A family in China were found to be infected with a strain of ncov that had undergone significant mutation
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3048772/striking-coronavirus-mutations-found-within-one-family-cluster

The effect of the mutation on human health is not yet known

4068ac1elhodqr · 03-02-2020 05:31PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

But sure this person is grand as there were probably not Chinese

So if you're not Chinese, this virus won't affect you, is that what is being implied, by your good self?

Sound like you've got a great sci-fi movie script there somewhere, maybe send it to Marvel Comics they're always looking for ideas for comics, although add in some zombie stuff, that's all the rage.

circadian · 03-02-2020 05:32PM

theguzman wrote: »

China, a perfect example of the left, shutdown and censor everything you don't agree with.

Are you really taking this thread as an opportunity to take pot shots at "the left"? Get over it for ****s sake.

creditcarder · 03-02-2020 05:35PM

wakka12 wrote: »

A family in China were found to be infected with a strain of ncov that had undergone significant mutation
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3048772/striking-coronavirus-mutations-found-within-one-family-cluster

The effect of the mutation on human health is not yet known

Didn't that happen days ago?

Edit: Very interesting newspaper. It is a hong kong stationed newspaper owned by Alibaba (Government owned pretty much) for the English speaking people.

Why is China pushing the virus being so dangerous?

ardinn · 03-02-2020 05:38PM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

A 'handful' in the US & Europe, and one in UAE.

Besides, not many folks in Beijing fly back and fourth to Timbuktu.
again... Conspiracy Theories... ->

What conspiracy - im just surprised - china has HUGE interests in central africa and extremely large traffic between the 2.

Its getting ridiculous in here now when you say something and someone directs you to CT. Stupid comment.

creditcarder · 03-02-2020 05:40PM

I must admit, there is actually a huge amount of Chinese in Africa due to the infrastructure development. So, it is odd how it isn't spreading, but it might just not be being reported or the dry heat makes it more difficult.

ardinn · 03-02-2020 05:42PM

creditcarder wrote: »

I must admit, there is actually a huge amount of Chinese in Africa due to the infrastructure development. So, it is odd how it isn't spreading, but it might just not be being reported or the dry heat makes it more difficult.

The english doctor on youtube said the virus doesnt seem to like the heat and thrives in colder conditions, if true, this is good news as we are coming into spring/summer. Not that it wont snow in may mind you!

OMM 0000 · 03-02-2020 05:43PM

creditcarder wrote: »

Didn't that happen days ago?

Edit: Very interesting newspaper. It is a hong kong stationed newspaper owned by Alibaba (Government owned pretty much) for the English speaking people.

Why is China pushing the virus being so dangerous?

SCMP is an odd one. Some of it's articles are pro-China, some are pro-Hong Kong.

It's blocked in China.

sk8erboii · 03-02-2020 05:51PM

circadian wrote: »

Are you really taking this thread as an opportunity to take pot shots at "the left"? Get over it for ****s sake.

Some people have destroyed their brains with internet politics.

s7ryf3925pivug · 03-02-2020 05:52PM

Considering cancelling plans to meet a friend next week who will have been through at least two international airports a few days beforehand.
I'm sure the probability of him being infectious with this is tiny, but as a father, the severity of impact could be unspeakable.

I suppose we'll soon see if there are in fact loads of people infected outside China, who just haven't developed symptoms yet.

Around 31 December: First reported symptoms.
January 23: Wuhan locked down.

Taking a two-week incubation period, then I suppose the next few days might be particularly telling. Most people who were infected before the lockdown should be showing symptoms by then - and I suppose the greatest number of infected leaving Wuhan would have been in the last few days before the lockdown.

odyssey06 · 03-02-2020 05:52PM

ardinn wrote: »

The english doctor on youtube said the virus doesnt seem to like the heat and thrives in colder conditions, if true, this is good news as we are coming into spring/summer. Not that it wont snow in may mind you!

February can be the coldest month... not much difference in avg temps december - february in Ireland. Dont think we can rely on the weather alas.

Dubh Geannain · 03-02-2020 05:54PM

creditcarder wrote: »

I must admit, there is actually a huge amount of Chinese in Africa due to the infrastructure development. So, it is odd how it isn't spreading, but it might just not be being reported or the dry heat makes it more difficult.

The season was my first thought.

creditcarder · 03-02-2020 05:57PM

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

Considering cancelling plans to meet a friend next week who will have been through at least two international airports a few days beforehand.
I'm sure the probability of him being infectious with this is tiny, but as a father, the severity of impact could be unspeakable.

I suppose we'll soon see if there are in fact loads of people infected outside China, who just haven't developed symptoms yet.

Around 31 December: First reported symptoms.
January 23: Wuhan locked down.

Taking a two-week incubation period, then I suppose the next few days might be particularly telling. Most people who were infected before the lockdown should be showing symptoms by then - and I suppose the greatest number of infected leaving Wuhan would have been in the last few days before the lockdown.

Don't doubt yourself. Your child could be fine with the pneumonia, but there's no harm in not meeting your friend.

Is 1 in Billion too small of a chance for a child?

laurah591 · 03-02-2020 05:59PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Dublin airport was the scene of another coronavirus alert today after a man on a flight from Dubai reported flu like symptoms.

A spokesman for Emirates airlines confirmed a passenger on board flight EK161 which was due in Dublin around noon complained of flu-like symptoms.

As a precaution, the Health Service Executive (HSE) was alerted.

After boarding the aircraft, the HSE cleared the passenger and deemed the person was not at risk of the virus.

Bizarre - how did the HSE confirm this.... based on travel history only?

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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