Garda chase from the m50 to Dundalk

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 11:26AM #1

Gardaí probing Blackrock burglaries arrest three suspects after M50 chase https://jrnl.ie/4987382

This chase started in Blackrock and ended in Dundalk only because the burglars car broke down. Had it not broken down they would have crossed the border and nobody could have stopped them. It's a free for all now for these criminals to just cross over the border with little or no chance of being caught. There was a helicopter and several Garda cars chasing and still they carried on. What can be done to stop them?

Badly Drunk Boy · 31-01-2020 11:30AM

Gerry G wrote: »

What can be done to stop them?

A hard Brexit with proper border checks?

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 11:35AM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

A hard Brexit with proper border checks?

That would definitely be one way alright. I can't see the little scrotes being brave enough to take on the British army

corner of hells · 31-01-2020 11:43AM

Gerry G wrote: »

Gardaí probing Blackrock burglaries arrest three suspects after M50 chase https://jrnl.ie/4987382

This chase started in Blackrock and ended in Dundalk only because the burglars car broke down. Had it not broken down they would have crossed the border and nobody could have stopped them. It's a free for all now for these criminals to just cross over the border with little or no chance of being caught. There was a helicopter and several Garda cars chasing and still they carried on. What can be done to stop them?

Did you read the article you posted ?

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 11:44AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Did you read the article you posted ?

I did. What's your point?

corner of hells · 31-01-2020 11:47AM

Gerry G wrote: »

I did. What's your point?

Relax there chief , I couldn't see where it mentioned the car broke down.

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 11:51AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Relax there chief , I couldn't see where it mentioned the car broke down.

Yeah, it didn't mention it in the article which made it seem like the Guards stopped them when in reality they would have easily gotten away but for car trouble. Once these lads have a car that will outrun a Hyundai they'll nearly always get away. I'd love to see some kind of policy brought in whereby the Guards can forcibly stop them and not risk being sacked or jailed for their actions

realdanbreen · 31-01-2020 11:53AM

Gerry G wrote: »

That would definitely be one way alright. I can't see the little scrotes being brave enough to take on the British army

You would end up with one bunch of scrotes in a stolen car taking on another bunch of scrotes in British army uniforms.

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 11:54AM

realdanbreen wrote: »

You would end up with one bunch of scrotes in a stolen car taking on another bunch of scrotes in British army uniforms.

Maybe, but if it was my house that had been robbed I'd like to see them stopped

Floppybits · 31-01-2020 11:59AM

So its a race then, commit a crime and as fast as you can race over the border before you are caught.

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 12:02PM

Floppybits wrote: »

So its a race then, commit a crime and as fast as you can race over the border before you are caught.

Pretty much yeah, that's it in a nutshell. The guards seem to drive behind them or alongside them until they cross. Same happened with the lads who recently tried to rob the ATM in Dunleer. Guards intercepted them and still allowed them to cross the border over 20 miles away.

Nijmegen · 31-01-2020 12:05PM

It's pretty difficult to stop. Put a permanent Garda checkpoint on the M1 ready to roll out spikes and the criminals will get off and take other routes in during the chase. You have to have a pretty significant presence to be able to suddenly shut down all roads out.

Look at the US, bastion of militarised, well funded and numerous police and they still have chases with helicopters and cars that go on for ages.

Trigger Happy · 31-01-2020 12:06PM

Landmines on the M50 that can be activated remotely. Job done.

LuasSimon · 31-01-2020 12:09PM

Gerry G wrote: »

Gardaí probing Blackrock burglaries arrest three suspects after M50 chase https://jrnl.ie/4987382

This chase started in Blackrock and ended in Dundalk only because the burglars car broke down. Had it not broken down they would have crossed the border and nobody could have stopped them. It's a free for all now for these criminals to just cross over the border with little or no chance of being caught. There was a helicopter and several Garda cars chasing and still they carried on. What can be done to stop them?

Not so sure they are from across the border , probably the case they just headed any direction they could to avoid the guards as fast as possible and kept driving and in this case it was northwards . They probably have some cousins living across the border to hide out with alright , it would be the same if they headed south towards wexford side or west to Laois .
Some free legal aid solicitor good at telling yarns about tough up bringing etc etc will have some judge wrapped around their finger in no time and they’d be out on bail so not sure why they’d even bother with the hassle of a chase .

Dravokivich · 31-01-2020 12:10PM

Gerry G wrote: »

Yeah, it didn't mention it in the article which made it seem like the Guards stopped them when in reality they would have easily gotten away but for car trouble. Once these lads have a car that will outrun a Hyundai they'll nearly always get away. I'd love to see some kind of policy brought in whereby the Guards can forcibly stop them and not risk being sacked or jailed for their actions

You can't outrun the radio.

There's also co-operation between Gards and PSNI who'd pickup on cross border issues.

sjb25 · 31-01-2020 12:18PM

Psni would continue to persue them both forces will work together here’s an example psni chasing suspects who went across boarder and gardai continued the search works both ways

https://www.facebook.com/PSNI.Newry.Mourne/photos/a.369740893107712/2716133875135057/?type=3

https://www.facebook.com/PSNI.Newry.Mourne/photos/a.369740893107712/2716133875135057/?type=3

4068ac1elhodqr · 31-01-2020 12:25PM

Guards should have a few Mustangs with the bullbars on the front like they do in LA, to stop all these bloodsn'cribs running amock up the M1
Only a week or so ago, that a stolen minibus took out a load of cars on same motorway, only stopped after additional units and chopper was launched.

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 12:33PM

Christina Gigantic Ore wrote: »

Guards should have a few Mustangs with the bullbars on the front like they do in LA, to stop all these bloodsn'cribs running amock up the M1
Only a week or so ago, that a stolen minibus took out a load of cars on same motorway, only stopped after additional units and chopper was launched.

Now wouldn't that be something

steves2 · 31-01-2020 01:40PM

It would be great if crime was taken seriously in this country, the Guards know who these gangs are but they aren't given the resources to smash them.

Bobblehats · 31-01-2020 01:41PM

Gerry G wrote: »

Now wouldn't that be something

It wouldn’t be the terminator they’d have to worry about anymore it’s be mad max

Winning_Stroke · 31-01-2020 01:46PM

Gerry G wrote: »

What can be done to stop them?

Have a ramp set up somewhere along the M1. Then as they're approaching it, BOOM, a Garda car slams into the side of them forcing them up the ramp. They fly off and while in mid-air, all the boys on the ground let loose. ARs, 50 cals, uzis, hell even regular revolvers. Peppered.

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 02:58PM

https://twitter.com/NorthantsARV/status/1223220991196893184?s=19

Now this is what I'm talking about

hi5 · 31-01-2020 03:08PM

'Pit Maneuver'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

Do they teach that in Gardai driving school here?

CrankyHaus · 31-01-2020 03:14PM

Teach PIT manoeuvres, lol.

A shocking amount of Gardai aren't even formally certified to drive a squad car to the shops and get by on informal authorisation from their seniors.

Infernal Racket · 31-01-2020 03:18PM

hi5 wrote: »

'Pit Maneuver'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

Do they teach that in Gardai driving school here?

As far as I know, Armed Response Units are trained but they won't use it in case they damage their jeeps and end up writing reports about it for the next 12 months. Also, they're worried about injuring the scrotes and facing legal repercussions. As Chief Wiggum once said "better to let a 1000 criminals get away than chase after em"

dxhound2005 · 31-01-2020 03:19PM

Gerry G wrote: »

As far as I know, Armed Response Units are trained but they won't use it in case they damage their jeeps and end up writing reports about it for the next 12 months. Also, they're worried about injuring the scrotes and facing legal repercussions. As Chief Wiggum once said "better to let a 1000 criminals get away than chase after em"

That must be the reason they don't do it in the UK either. According to that American link.

The PIT maneuver is generally not permitted during police pursuits in the United Kingdom.

baldshin · 31-01-2020 03:28PM

There is no written procedure in the Gardai that permits or instructs on chases. Even on the radio you can say the word chase or pursuit because if something happens and someone is injured, the guards get the blame.

Dravokivich · 31-01-2020 04:40PM

hi5 wrote: »

'Pit Maneuver'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

Do they teach that in Gardai driving school here?

Well, as it is the Gardaí are qualified from Templemor with advanced driver training.

Witcher · 31-01-2020 04:44PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Well, as it is the Gardaí are qualified from Templemor with advanced driver training.

No they're not, no driving instruction is completed while in Templemore, far from it. There are Gardai with years of service that aren't qualified to drive.

Link explains in more detail

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-training-4438912-Jan2019/

tdf7187 · 31-01-2020 04:45PM

We're not exactly the only country with a motorway network. So why is this type of thing so common here?

Treepole · 31-01-2020 04:48PM

tdf7187 wrote: »

We're not exactly the only country with a motorway network. So why is this type of thing so common here?

Because you only hear about the ones that happen in here?

Garda chase from the m50 to Dundalk

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