Garda chase from the m50 to Dundalk

Infernal Racket

Gardaí probing Blackrock burglaries arrest three suspects after M50 chase https://jrnl.ie/4987382

This chase started in Blackrock and ended in Dundalk only because the burglars car broke down. Had it not broken down they would have crossed the border and nobody could have stopped them. It's a free for all now for these criminals to just cross over the border with little or no chance of being caught. There was a helicopter and several Garda cars chasing and still they carried on. What can be done to stop them?

Badly Drunk Boy

Gerry G wrote: »

What can be done to stop them?

A hard Brexit with proper border checks?

Infernal Racket

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

A hard Brexit with proper border checks?

That would definitely be one way alright. I can't see the little scrotes being brave enough to take on the British army

corner of hells

Gerry G wrote: »

Gardaí probing Blackrock burglaries arrest three suspects after M50 chase https://jrnl.ie/4987382

This chase started in Blackrock and ended in Dundalk only because the burglars car broke down. Had it not broken down they would have crossed the border and nobody could have stopped them. It's a free for all now for these criminals to just cross over the border with little or no chance of being caught. There was a helicopter and several Garda cars chasing and still they carried on. What can be done to stop them?

Did you read the article you posted ?

Infernal Racket

corner of hells wrote: »

Did you read the article you posted ?

I did. What's your point?

corner of hells

Gerry G wrote: »

I did. What's your point?

Relax there chief , I couldn't see where it mentioned the car broke down.

Infernal Racket

corner of hells wrote: »

Relax there chief , I couldn't see where it mentioned the car broke down.

Yeah, it didn't mention it in the article which made it seem like the Guards stopped them when in reality they would have easily gotten away but for car trouble. Once these lads have a car that will outrun a Hyundai they'll nearly always get away. I'd love to see some kind of policy brought in whereby the Guards can forcibly stop them and not risk being sacked or jailed for their actions

realdanbreen

Gerry G wrote: »

That would definitely be one way alright. I can't see the little scrotes being brave enough to take on the British army

You would end up with one bunch of scrotes in a stolen car taking on another bunch of scrotes in British army uniforms.

Infernal Racket

realdanbreen wrote: »

You would end up with one bunch of scrotes in a stolen car taking on another bunch of scrotes in British army uniforms.

Maybe, but if it was my house that had been robbed I'd like to see them stopped

Floppybits

So its a race then, commit a crime and as fast as you can race over the border before you are caught.

Infernal Racket

Floppybits wrote: »

So its a race then, commit a crime and as fast as you can race over the border before you are caught.

Pretty much yeah, that's it in a nutshell. The guards seem to drive behind them or alongside them until they cross. Same happened with the lads who recently tried to rob the ATM in Dunleer. Guards intercepted them and still allowed them to cross the border over 20 miles away.

Nijmegen

It's pretty difficult to stop. Put a permanent Garda checkpoint on the M1 ready to roll out spikes and the criminals will get off and take other routes in during the chase. You have to have a pretty significant presence to be able to suddenly shut down all roads out.

Look at the US, bastion of militarised, well funded and numerous police and they still have chases with helicopters and cars that go on for ages.

Trigger Happy

Landmines on the M50 that can be activated remotely. Job done.

LuasSimon

Gerry G wrote: »

Gardaí probing Blackrock burglaries arrest three suspects after M50 chase https://jrnl.ie/4987382

This chase started in Blackrock and ended in Dundalk only because the burglars car broke down. Had it not broken down they would have crossed the border and nobody could have stopped them. It's a free for all now for these criminals to just cross over the border with little or no chance of being caught. There was a helicopter and several Garda cars chasing and still they carried on. What can be done to stop them?

Not so sure they are from across the border , probably the case they just headed any direction they could to avoid the guards as fast as possible and kept driving and in this case it was northwards . They probably have some cousins living across the border to hide out with alright , it would be the same if they headed south towards wexford side or west to Laois .
Some free legal aid solicitor good at telling yarns about tough up bringing etc etc will have some judge wrapped around their finger in no time and they’d be out on bail so not sure why they’d even bother with the hassle of a chase .

Dravokivich

Gerry G wrote: »

Yeah, it didn't mention it in the article which made it seem like the Guards stopped them when in reality they would have easily gotten away but for car trouble. Once these lads have a car that will outrun a Hyundai they'll nearly always get away. I'd love to see some kind of policy brought in whereby the Guards can forcibly stop them and not risk being sacked or jailed for their actions

You can't outrun the radio.

There's also co-operation between Gards and PSNI who'd pickup on cross border issues.

sjb25

Psni would continue to persue them both forces will work together here’s an example psni chasing suspects who went across boarder and gardai continued the search works both ways

https://www.facebook.com/PSNI.Newry.Mourne/photos/a.369740893107712/2716133875135057/?type=3

https://www.facebook.com/PSNI.Newry.Mourne/photos/a.369740893107712/2716133875135057/?type=3

4068ac1elhodqr

Guards should have a few Mustangs with the bullbars on the front like they do in LA, to stop all these bloodsn'cribs running amock up the M1
Only a week or so ago, that a stolen minibus took out a load of cars on same motorway, only stopped after additional units and chopper was launched.

Infernal Racket

Christina Gigantic Ore wrote: »

Guards should have a few Mustangs with the bullbars on the front like they do in LA, to stop all these bloodsn'cribs running amock up the M1
Only a week or so ago, that a stolen minibus took out a load of cars on same motorway, only stopped after additional units and chopper was launched.

Now wouldn't that be something

steves2

It would be great if crime was taken seriously in this country, the Guards know who these gangs are but they aren't given the resources to smash them.

Bobblehats

Gerry G wrote: »

Now wouldn't that be something

It wouldn’t be the terminator they’d have to worry about anymore it’s be mad max

Winning_Stroke

Gerry G wrote: »

What can be done to stop them?

Have a ramp set up somewhere along the M1. Then as they're approaching it, BOOM, a Garda car slams into the side of them forcing them up the ramp. They fly off and while in mid-air, all the boys on the ground let loose. ARs, 50 cals, uzis, hell even regular revolvers. Peppered.

Infernal Racket

https://twitter.com/NorthantsARV/status/1223220991196893184?s=19

Now this is what I'm talking about

hi5

'Pit Maneuver'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

Do they teach that in Gardai driving school here?

CrankyHaus

Teach PIT manoeuvres, lol.

A shocking amount of Gardai aren't even formally certified to drive a squad car to the shops and get by on informal authorisation from their seniors.

Infernal Racket

hi5 wrote: »

'Pit Maneuver'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

Do they teach that in Gardai driving school here?

As far as I know, Armed Response Units are trained but they won't use it in case they damage their jeeps and end up writing reports about it for the next 12 months. Also, they're worried about injuring the scrotes and facing legal repercussions. As Chief Wiggum once said "better to let a 1000 criminals get away than chase after em"

dxhound2005

Gerry G wrote: »

As far as I know, Armed Response Units are trained but they won't use it in case they damage their jeeps and end up writing reports about it for the next 12 months. Also, they're worried about injuring the scrotes and facing legal repercussions. As Chief Wiggum once said "better to let a 1000 criminals get away than chase after em"

That must be the reason they don't do it in the UK either. According to that American link.

The PIT maneuver is generally not permitted during police pursuits in the United Kingdom.

baldshin

There is no written procedure in the Gardai that permits or instructs on chases. Even on the radio you can say the word chase or pursuit because if something happens and someone is injured, the guards get the blame.

Dravokivich

hi5 wrote: »

'Pit Maneuver'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

Do they teach that in Gardai driving school here?

Well, as it is the Gardaí are qualified from Templemor with advanced driver training.

Witcher

Dravokivich wrote: »

Well, as it is the Gardaí are qualified from Templemor with advanced driver training.

No they're not, no driving instruction is completed while in Templemore, far from it. There are Gardai with years of service that aren't qualified to drive.

Link explains in more detail

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-training-4438912-Jan2019/

tdf7187

We're not exactly the only country with a motorway network. So why is this type of thing so common here?

Treepole

tdf7187 wrote: »

We're not exactly the only country with a motorway network. So why is this type of thing so common here?

Because you only hear about the ones that happen in here?

Dravokivich

Witcher wrote: »

No they're not, no driving instruction is completed while in Templemore, far from it. There are Gardai with years of service that aren't qualified to drive.

Link explains in more detail

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-training-4438912-Jan2019/

Ah typo on my account there, I meant to say "without," not "with."

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

tdf7187 wrote: »

We're not exactly the only country with a motorway network. So why is this type of thing so common here?

Have a look at some UK TV series like Police Interceptors and you'll see it's rife anywhere with a motorway system.

LuasSimon

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5049205/godfather-ireland-burglary-gang-arrested-tallaght-dundalk-chase/

Surprise surprise , a traveller gang from Dublin .
They are turning their attention to South Dublin it seems , probably no more left to rob in rural Ireland at this stage .

handlemaster

Look the simple fact is crime pays in ireland even.when caught there is little repercussions. We need mandatory sentencing that means something. Suspended sentences are given out all to often. Ten convictions 10 years no other choice for the judge.

handlemaster

LuasSimon wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5049205/godfather-ireland-burglary-gang-arrested-tallaght-dundalk-chase/

Surprise surprise , a traveller gang from Dublin .
They are turning their attention to South Dublin it seems , probably no more left to rob in rural Ireland at this stage .

Tis the culture but we can't say that. 50% of prisoners in castlerea prison are travellers. This is an issue here but people on the whole are not allow to speak about for fear of been called racist.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/disproportionate-number-of-travellers-in-prison-population-1.3263524