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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #1142
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Not quite...

    ?


  • #1143
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Any chance of a graph or bar chart with strong colours? I'd settle for a pie chart.




    Actually you can expect the sensationalist rumour spreading and fearmongering, and of course profiteering, to go viral as this disease spreads.

    Fear sells and if this disease gets big enough everyone from racists to quacks to simple opportunists will want their slice of the pie.


  • #1144
    Ann22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,005 ✭✭✭Ann22


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Have a go at butchering a cow in Hindu India, see how ye get on.

    It's Islam followers that have an inhumane method of cattle slaughter.
    Any form of butchery that requires the animal to be conscious and suffering while being skinned or boiled alive is barbaric.


  • #1145
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Ann22 wrote: »
    It's Islam followers that have an inhumane method of cattle slaughter.
    Any form of butchery that requires the animal to be conscious and suffering while being skinned or boiled alive is barbaric.


    My point is about culture and perception, you (we in Ireland) think it's barbaric to butcher dogs, but readily butcher cattle and eat beef, same with pigs.

    People in India (most of it anyway) think it's barbaric to butcher cattle and eat beef, many will eat pork though.

    People in certain parts of asia gladly butcher and eat dogs, cats, cattle, pigs etc.

    Ones perception decides what's acceptable or not, and the eating of dogs is acceptable in many parts of china/asia.

    Wasn't intended particularly to be a religious post, just one that points out that one mans barbarianism is another man's dinner.


  • #1146
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Hmmm didn't necessarily seem like militia, but wouldn't rule it out. A lot of the time it looked like a mixture of locals, manning different levels of 'checkpoint' (concrete walls, mounds of dirt/rocks/ materials). No idea where they are exactly, seems to be all types of locations from rural villages to parts of cities.

    Yes the chinese aren't idiotic, but these did seem like a more provincial area or suburb... but this kind of experiment has never been played out on a population. We all suspect that these types of things will take hold in the collective psyche, it's not about whether someone's smart, people can become irrational no matter what kind of degree they have.

    You see, I've heard nothing of this. Not even a suggestion of it. I've been on contact with Chinese friends and other expats still in country. Many of my students are from the countryside rather than the cities, and I've also been talking with them. No mention of mobs taking authority, or attacking those suspected of being infected.

    I have heard of militia's being formed from retired military personnel but they're being led by the military itself or the police to reinforce containment.

    Where are you based?


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  • #1147
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You see, I've heard nothing of this. Not even a suggestion of it. I've been on contact with Chinese friends and other expats still in country. Many of my students are from the countryside rather than the cities, and I've also been talking with them. No mention of mobs taking authority, or attacking those suspected of being infected.

    I have heard of militia's being formed from retired military personnel but they're being led by the military itself or the police to reinforce containment.

    Where are you based?

    Ireland. Have your friends heard of cases of people being barricaded in their homes?


  • #1148
    Awesomeness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can you be more specific about that? Or is it just the militia stepping in?



    Where?

    The idea of mobs of people increases the chance of being infected yourself. Generally speaking Chinese people aren't that idiotic, although it's certainly possible with the seriously poor and uneducated.

    Do you think the Chinese are so illness-averse and that it could be contributing to the spread.

    I know from my there every time i sneezed they would be suggesting I needed to go to hospital to see a doctor. Just wondering if this could be bringing more people to hospitals that don't have the virus but then getting them infected and adding to the workload of hospital staff


  • #1149
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Hmmm didn't necessarily seem like militia, but wouldn't rule it out. A lot of the time it looked like a mixture of locals, manning different levels of 'checkpoint' (concrete walls, mounds of dirt/rocks/ materials). No idea where they are exactly, seems to be all types of locations from rural villages to parts of cities.

    Yes the chinese aren't idiotic, but these did seem like a more provincial area or suburb... but this kind of experiment has never been played out on a population. We all suspect that these types of things will take hold in the collective psyche, it's not about whether someone's smart, people can become irrational no matter what kind of degree they have.


    Probably happening tbh. The law is very lax outside of the big cities.


  • #1150
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    I wonder what the death toll would be by now if the drastic measures weren’t being made to close down the cities etc.

    I still hear people saying “it’s just a cold and only media hype for click bait”!!!


  • #1151
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    CrankyHaus wrote: »

    Actually you can expect the sensationalist rumour spreading and fearmongering, and of course profiteering, to go viral as this disease spreads.

    Fear sells and if this disease gets big enough everyone from racists to quacks to simple opportunists will want their slice of the pie.

    Yeah I call it the fear virus.


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  • #1152
    Ann22
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    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    My point is about culture and perception, you (we in Ireland) think it's barbaric to butcher dogs, but readily butcher cattle and eat beef, same with pigs.

    I don't want to drag on an argument but my main point was that we don't skin cattle alive or drop them into boiling water so the stress makes them taste better. Besides whatever goes on in other countries doesn't make Yulin festival any less horrific.


  • #1153
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    What are you talking about? Who is settling in already for the 'long wait at home'?


    I am stocking up as I work from home and there is a first case in beautiful Poland. :( MAYBE due to the whole rac to publish headline malarkey


  • #1154
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    There are now 10 confirmed cases in Hong Kong according to the Johns Hopkins tracking map.

    When public confidence goes, it will go fast.

    https://twitter.com/Bryan_A_Cheung/status/1222725479792173056?s=20

    https://twitter.com/joshuawongcf/status/1222714596600844290?s=20


    Hmmmm, that's one way to stop demonstrations :P But, in fariness, it has probably run its course.


  • #1155
    Bobblehats
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    I got pinged this in what appears an attempt to deflect:

    ayovxM8_460s.jpg


  • #1156
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Irish Mirror reporting a Dublin hospital may have a case:

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-symptoms-hse-ireland-dublin-21394738


  • #1157
    Ava Icy Teenager
    Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Ava Icy Teenager


    Just in the supermarket. There's some multipacks of water being bought.


  • #1158
    scotchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭scotchy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just in the supermarket. There's some multipacks of water being bought.

    In work, but according to my residents assoc wats app, roadworks have broke a main and no water. I was just thinking if I pick up water on the way home everyone is going to think Im a panicing due to the virus.
    :o
    .

    💙 💛 💙 💛 💙 💛



  • #1159
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Irish Mirror reporting a Dublin hospital may have a case:

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-symptoms-hse-ireland-dublin-21394738
    Their video is a little out of date..


  • #1160
    pc7
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    scotchy wrote: »
    In work, but according to my residents assoc wats app, roadworks have broke a main and no water. I was just thinking if I pick up water on the way home everyone is going to think Im a panicing due to the virus.
    :o
    .


    Throw in some rice, tinned fruit, beans, tinned meat, disinfectant, keep sneezing and watch that queue clear :D


  • #1161
    Awesomeness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Just seen a video from a friend in Dalian saying that there are 4 cases reported. Interesting seeing that there's none listed on the John Hopkins map


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  • #1162
    [Deleted User]
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    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    My point is about culture and perception, you (we in Ireland) think it's barbaric to butcher dogs, but readily butcher cattle and eat beef, same with pigs.

    People in India (most of it anyway) think it's barbaric to butcher cattle and eat beef, many will eat pork though.

    People in certain parts of asia gladly butcher and eat dogs, cats, cattle, pigs etc.

    Ones perception decides what's acceptable or not, and the eating of dogs is acceptable in many parts of china/asia.

    Wasn't intended particularly to be a religious post, just one that points out that one mans barbarianism is another man's dinner.

    For people who have never been in China, there is a burgeoning culture of owning pet dogs, at least in Beijing and Shanghai, probably elsewhere too. Saw a few well groomed pampered pooches on a short visit.


  • #1163
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Deleted User wrote: »
    For people who have never been in China, there is a burgeoning culture of owning pet dogs, at least in Beijing and Shanghai, probably elsewhere too. Saw a few well groomed pampered pooches on a short visit.


    Funilly enough, getting the remaindrs of a meal to take home is seen as poor, and some people say they are feeding it to the dogs so as to seem, you know, rich enough not to have to save food or something.



    I wonder is there an Irish equivalent? Devoting time to a charity to show you don't need a full time job? :P


  • #1164
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Really don't believe that hand sanitiser or face masks will do much to help anybody.
    People tend to get hysterical when these outbreaks happen.
    The best thing to do is just keep living your life. If you get sick, let your body fight it off.

    Agree that people are being hysterical but that is really bad advice. Dunno about face masks but washing hands absolutely does help, and lots of older people will not be able to fight it off


  • #1165
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    pc7 wrote: »
    Throw in some rice, tinned fruit, beans, tinned meat, disinfectant, keep sneezing and watch that queue clear :D


    Hmmm, tinned fruit is a good idea :) Beautiful kompot


  • #1166
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Awesomeness wrote: »
    Just seen a video from a friend in Dalian saying that there are 4 cases reported. Interesting seeing that there's none listed on the John Hopkins map

    I'm sure all provinces China have at least 1 case now.


  • #1167
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Awesomeness wrote: »
    Just seen a video from a friend in Dalian saying that there are 4 cases reported. Interesting seeing that there's none listed on the John Hopkins map
    The big map appears only be updated about once per day, last update was yesterday 9pm EST with the 7,700 type figure.
    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


  • #1168
    Awesomeness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Looking again think I got it wrong. They seem to be showing it on a provincial basis rather than city. 39 cases in Liaoning province. As the dot was far away from Dalian didn't realize


  • #1169
    Dubh Geannain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Heaven forbid the election gets postponed and we have to put up with more weeks of canvassing.

    I'd be gutted if the Olympics is hit though. Although, it'd be funny from McIroys perspective - Not travelling to Brazil because of Zika then not being allowed travel this time because of the Corona virus.


  • #1170
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »
    The big map appears only be updated about once per day, last update was yesterday 9pm EST with the 7,700 type figure.
    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    Look at the the exponential growth rate on the bottom left of that link!! :eek:


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  • #1171
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Over 8000 confirmed AND 12000 suspected


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