Mairead McGuinness Brexit farewell.

h.gricer · 30-01-2020 1:57pm #1

Whatever our views on Brexit, I was very disappointed with Mairead McGuinness as Vice-President of the European Parliament her remarks yesterday were an absolute disgrace, ''take your flags with you'' who the hell was she trying to impress, she just couldn't leave her FG politics outside the door, with an election shortly here, she thinks there's votes in ''Brit bashing'' banging the green drum, well she has a wake up call, this election is about homes, health and pensions, playing the green card is long gone. Insulting our nearest neighbours does nothing for Anglo Irish relations and Mairead McGuinness cheap shot low life remark yesterday does nothing for that, and is an insult to demorcracy, a position of Vice-President of the European Parliament should be above making personal insults and served with dignity and respect, yesterday she let the mask slip, just couldn't help herself getting a final dig in at our nearest neighbour, she lowered the office and lowered herself.

gmisk · 30-01-2020 1:59pm

I feel completely the opposite, I thought she was excellent.
Farage and his lot an embarrassment as usual, even Diane Dodds was embarrassed

Eric Cartman · 30-01-2020 1:59pm

Nigel was being nigel and she should have just let them have their little smug party, she wont be seeing them again. She made the entire EU look salty and gave nigel and his supporters a lovely video snippet to fondly remember.

lawred2 · 30-01-2020 2:01pm

h.gricer wrote: »

Whatever our views on Brexit, I was very disappointed with Mairead McGuinness as Vice-President of the European Parliament her remarks yesterday were an absolute disgrace, ''take your flags with you'' who the hell was she trying to impress, she just couldn't leave her FG politics outside the door, with an election shortly here, she thinks there's votes in ''Brit bashing'' banging the green drum, well she has a wake up call, this election is about homes, health and pensions, playing the green card is long gone. Insulting our nearest neighbours does nothing for Anglo Irish relations and Mairead McGuinness cheap shot low life remark yesterday does nothing for that, and is an insult to demorcracy, a position of Vice-President of the European Parliament should be above making personal insults and served with dignity and respect, yesterday she let the mask slip, just couldn't help herself getting a final dig in at our nearest neighbour, she lowered the office and lowered herself.

this is off the wall

how was she 'Brit bashing'?

HeidiHeidi · 30-01-2020 2:02pm

I thought she was great, putting the eejits giving two fingers to the EU like overgrown kids firmly in their place.,

I'd say the whole parliament is heartily sick of them at this stage.

greendom · 30-01-2020 2:03pm

She dealt with Farage and his cronies brilliantly. Went up hugely in my estimation.

How embarrassing were the Brexit party for the UK? Jingoistic imbeciles

heebusjeebus · 30-01-2020 2:05pm

It has nothing to do with "FG politics" and she's not up for election as she is no longer a TD.
Ridiculous OP.

road_high · 30-01-2020 2:05pm

I think she should have held her breath and let them have their final little bitter “moment”. I’m sure it was well flagged probably for years that this would be the carry on. The important thing is he and his ilk are gone now- of course they’ll still be sniping on the outside and im sure Farage will be a regular in Brussels sticking his oar in. Like a bitter divorced ex would do

Amirani · 30-01-2020 2:05pm

You're not allowed bring flags into the chamber and wave them around, it's part of the rules.

She asked them to bring the flags (that they had brought in) with them if they were leaving. Assume you're one of those people who dumps their crap everywhere and expects cleaners to pick it up after you?

Exiled1 · 30-01-2020 2:05pm

Wonderful riposte by Mairead McGuinness.
Listen again to the bit about 'hate'.
Good riddance to Farage, Widdecombe and all the other n**tters!

Baybay · 30-01-2020 2:06pm

As I understand it, national flags are not permitted in that arena. It was a form of disrespect for Farage & his followers to do what they did & McGuiness, in her role, would be expected to call them on it. Contrast the flag wavers behaviour with the MEPs rendition of Auld Land Syne as ways to say goodbye.

h.gricer · 30-01-2020 2:07pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Nigel was being nigel and she should have just let them have their little smug party, she wont be seeing them again. She made the entire EU look salty and gave nigel and his supporters a lovely video snippet to fondly remember.

Absolutely agree, she should have grit her teeth, but just could help herself, the British people had their referendum, but because the result is not to the liking of Mairead McGuinness, Brit bashing and banging the green drum doesn't work anymore, the Irish people have moved on, her remarks were cringing, to say the least, she was probably chuffed, years in Brussels she out of touch.

lawred2 · 30-01-2020 2:11pm

h.gricer wrote: »

Absolutely agree, she should have grit her teeth, but just could help herself, the British people had their referendum, but because the result is not to the liking of Mairead McGuinness, Brit bashing and banging the green drum doesn't work anymore, the Irish people have moved on, her remarks were cringing, to say the least, she was probably chuffed, years in Brussels she out of touch.

so you've doubled down - fair play

h.gricer · 30-01-2020 2:11pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

It has nothing to do with "FG politics" and she's not up for election as she is no longer a TD.
Ridiculous OP.

It's everything to do with FG politics, yes she is no longer a TD, but she is very much a member of FG and a FG MEP.

elperello · 30-01-2020 2:11pm

He broke the rules, she just did her job.

Tacitus Kilgore · 30-01-2020 2:12pm

h.gricer wrote: »

Whatever our views on Brexit, I was very disappointed with Mairead McGuinness as Vice-President of the European Parliament her remarks yesterday were an absolute disgrace, ''take your flags with you'' who the hell was she trying to impress, she just couldn't leave her FG politics outside the door, with an election shortly here, she thinks there's votes in ''Brit bashing'' banging the green drum, well she has a wake up call, this election is about homes, health and pensions, playing the green card is long gone. Insulting our nearest neighbours does nothing for Anglo Irish relations and Mairead McGuinness cheap shot low life remark yesterday does nothing for that, and is an insult to demorcracy, a position of Vice-President of the European Parliament should be above making personal insults and served with dignity and respect, yesterday she let the mask slip, just couldn't help herself getting a final dig in at our nearest neighbour, she lowered the office and lowered herself.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Nigel was being nigel and she should have just let them have their little smug party, she wont be seeing them again. She made the entire EU look salty and gave nigel and his supporters a lovely video snippet to fondly remember.

Aaaand here come the bootlickers

never_mind · 30-01-2020 2:13pm

h.gricer wrote: »

Whatever our views on Brexit, I was very disappointed with Mairead McGuinness as Vice-President of the European Parliament her remarks yesterday were an absolute disgrace, ''take your flags with you'' who the hell was she trying to impress, she just couldn't leave her FG politics outside the door, with an election shortly here, she thinks there's votes in ''Brit bashing'' banging the green drum, well she has a wake up call, this election is about homes, health and pensions, playing the green card is long gone. Insulting our nearest neighbours does nothing for Anglo Irish relations and Mairead McGuinness cheap shot low life remark yesterday does nothing for that, and is an insult to demorcracy, a position of Vice-President of the European Parliament should be above making personal insults and served with dignity and respect, yesterday she let the mask slip, just couldn't help herself getting a final dig in at our nearest neighbour, she lowered the office and lowered herself.

Pretty sure you are making your own Brexit views quiet clear here in your ridiculous and petty post about the VP of the EP doing her f'in job.

KaneToad · 30-01-2020 2:17pm

I thought she handled it perfectly. They were only cut off when they took out the flags. She was only doing her job. Any other of the VPs would have done the same.

hawley · 30-01-2020 2:21pm

Baybay wrote: »

As I understand it, national flags are not permitted in that arena. It was a form of disrespect for Farage & his followers to do what they did & McGuiness, in her role, would be expected to call them on it. Contrast the flag wavers behaviour with the MEPs rendition of Auld Land Syne as ways to say goodbye.

Why were the pro EU MEPs allowed wear scarves with the Union Jack on them? Is it just flags that are banned? If Nigel Farage and his group wanted to sing Rule Britannia, whilst wearing Union Jack scarves, would they have been allowed?

pixelburp · 30-01-2020 2:22pm

The party broke the rules of the parliament and were censured as a result, as should be the case in ANY parliament. This is a non story.

lawred2 · 30-01-2020 2:23pm

pixelburp wrote: »

The party broke the rules of the parliament and were censured as a result, as should be the case in ANY parliament. This is a non story.

not where bootlicking Brexiteers are concerned

jimmycrackcorm · 30-01-2020 2:24pm

It's a pity that she didn't have a Scottish flag to wave back at farage and tell him it won't be long until that part of the Union Jack will be flying there.

lawred2 · 30-01-2020 2:26pm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

It's a pity that she didn't have a Scottish flag to wave back at farage and tell him it won't be long until that part of the Union Jack will be flying there.

better off not descending to those levels

Salary Negotiator · 30-01-2020 2:26pm

Hopefully this is the beginning of a trend that every time Farage steps up to a mic someone turns it off.

ZiabR · 30-01-2020 2:29pm

I thought she was fantastic. She was just saying what we were all thinking. A good portion of the blame for Brexit lies on Farage's lap and I think Mairead handled the whole situation perfectly.

newport2 · 30-01-2020 2:30pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

It has nothing to do with "FG politics" and she's not up for election as she is no longer a TD.
Ridiculous OP.

Agreed. And here she is calling others to order and rightfully so. Again just doing her job and doing it well.

Phoebas · 30-01-2020 2:37pm

h.gricer wrote: »

It's everything to do with FG politics, yes she is no longer a TD, but she is very much a member of FG and a FG MEP.

But aren't FG just a bunch of West Brits who would have Nigel Farage march a contingent of Black and Tans down O'Connell Street if they got a chance?

johnnyskeleton · 30-01-2020 2:43pm

h.gricer wrote: »

years in Brussels she out of touch.

Actually, considering that her attitude is one of almost superhuman patience that has almost reached exhaustion at the childish behaviour of the UKIP/Brexit party, she is in touch with most of the world's population who, outside of the Brexiteer echo chamber, see the UK political establishment as an absolute joke!

brucky · 30-01-2020 2:50pm

Let herself down alright, like a lot of people he obviously got under her skin. She should have said "we wish you all the luck in the future and just smiled".

Tacitus Kilgore · 30-01-2020 2:51pm

brucky wrote: »

Let herself down alright, like a lot of people he obviously got under her skin. She should have said "we wish you all the luck in the future and just smiled".

She would then be facilitating a breach of rules, so no - best not to stoop to that level.

biko · 30-01-2020 2:53pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-party-eu-parliament-farage-union-jack-flags-meps-a9308516.html

I don't think it was a big deal.
Nigel et al waved flags as David Sassoli recently banned national flags.
She said they weren't allowed any more.

Then she pulled the hate card of course

She also criticised Mr Farage for invoking “hate” in his attacks on the EU

NIMAN · 30-01-2020 2:53pm

No more silly comments please.

gmisk · 30-01-2020 2:55pm

biko wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-party-eu-parliament-farage-union-jack-flags-meps-a9308516.html

I don't think it was a big deal.
Nigel et al waved flags as David Sassoli recently banned national flags.
She said they weren't allowed any more.

Then she pulled the hate card of course

She didn't pull the hate card....he said they "hate the EU"....she responded, did you not watch that bit?

looksee · 30-01-2020 2:56pm

I just watched the Farage exit and he really is a totally odious man. I should think they are delighted he is gone, and his flag waving moronic followers.

martingriff · 30-01-2020 3:01pm

road_high wrote: »

I think she should have held her breath and let them have their final little bitter “moment”. I’m sure it was well flagged probably for years that this would be the carry on. The important thing is he and his ilk are gone now- of course they’ll still be sniping on the outside and im sure Farage will be a regular in Brussels sticking his oar in. Like a bitter divorced ex would do

I am sure he will still take his pension from the EU even though he despises them

meeeeh · 30-01-2020 3:07pm

I think as always Farage showed his class. Does he represent the modern exciting Britain that will do trade deals with everyone?

Good job Mairead, I 'm sorry to see UK leave EU but I 'm not sorry to see the back of this kind of behaviour.

meeeeh · 30-01-2020 3:10pm

martingriff wrote: »

I am sure he will still take his pension from the EU even though he despises them

I'm sure he will. Politics was always just the way to make money for Farage, Brexit made him rich and it will make those who voted for it poorer.

Wheety · 30-01-2020 3:13pm

You do realise she was talking literally, not figuratively? Farage and his cronies were waving flags, which is against the rules for all MEPs, not just the British ones.

mickdw · 30-01-2020 3:14pm

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

She would then be facilitating a breach of rules, so no - best not to stoop to that level.

Ah come on, it was a special day, a major nation leaving the EU. Farrage and his group were entitled to abit of british flag waving even if its not allowed.
It was no time for such blunt comments. It came across as though she was bitter and was telling the whole uk to F*ck off now yourself and you flags.
She could have smiled and told Farrage that he and his anti EU speeches will be missed.

SEPT 23 1989 · 30-01-2020 3:18pm

I thought it was dreadful but she has her place in history now

that clip will be played forever

irish_goat · 30-01-2020 3:22pm

gmisk wrote: »

Even Diane Dodds was embarrassed

Dodds wasn't embarassed, she's raging because it's finally sinking in that her and the DUP have been left behind.

Tacitus Kilgore · 30-01-2020 3:24pm

mickdw wrote: »

Ah come on, it was a special day, a major nation leaving the EU. Farrage and his group were entitled to abit of british flag waving even if its not allowed.
It was no time for such blunt comments. It came across as though she was bitter and was telling the whole uk to F*ck off now yourself and you flags.
She could have smiled and told Farrage that he and his anti EU speeches will be missed.

Special day for Nigel and his mates maybe, but like every other day in the EU - procedure & rules are the order of the day, always have been, always will be.

See the idea of a union is lost on Farage and his mates/supporters - they have no interest in a partnership, they just act and do as they feel regardless of consequence - suppose a bit like the how the UK is acting to about half of it's own population, and 3/4 of it's member countries...

30-01-2020 3:31pm

newport2 wrote: »

Agreed. And here she is calling others to order and rightfully so. Again just doing her job and doing it well.

I loved the was she put her ear piece back in after talking.

Obviously needs someone to translate the nordy accent for her

BarryD2 · 30-01-2020 3:32pm

I thought it was a bit curt but to the point, there comes a time when you don't indulge that sort of nonsense anymore.

As regards Farage and his Brexit, just hope that people don't look back on this time in years to come at the onset of some new great European conflict.

gmisk · 30-01-2020 3:33pm

irish_goat wrote: »

Dodds wasn't embarassed, she's raging because it's finally sinking in that her and the DUP have been left behind.

Possibly but my point is she didn't join in.
They loved having some leverage though with the conservatives etc...but it is long gone.
It also seems northern Ireland is slowly dragging itself away from crazed unionist parties.
The alliance party massively increasing it's share.

Fr Tod Umptious · 30-01-2020 3:38pm

h.gricer wrote: »

It's everything to do with FG politics, yes she is no longer a TD, but she is very much a member of FG and a FG MEP.

She's no longer a TD because she never was a TD.

Fr Tod Umptious · 30-01-2020 3:39pm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

It's a pity that she didn't have a Scottish flag to wave back at farage and tell him it won't be long until that part of the Union Jack will be flying there.

Maybe because that is not going to happen.

30-01-2020 3:41pm

"Whatever our views on Brexit".

remainder of OP the rantings of an extreme brexiteer position

Quin_Dub · 30-01-2020 3:52pm

looksee wrote: »

I just watched the Farage exit and he really is a totally odious man. I should think they are delighted he is gone, and his flag waving moronic followers.

Also - They had just sat through a Holocaust survivor talking about their experiences on the anniversary and so on.

Then Nigel Farage stands up and launches into a speech about how Populism is great , Populism is coming back blah blah blah..

The tone deafness is beyond understanding - an awful individual.

jim o doom · 30-01-2020 3:58pm

I think the OP has seen that the tide is very much against him as he stopped commenting pages ago.

pixelburp · 30-01-2020 4:03pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Also - They had just sat through a Holocaust survivor talking about their experiences on the anniversary and so on.

Then Nigel Farage stands up and launches into a speech about how Populism is great , Populism is coming back blah blah blah..

The tone deafness is beyond understanding - an awful individual.

I had no realised this. Yowsers.
Though Farage isn't a complete mug, he likely knew the rules of the Parliament, knew he'd be ejected for breaching them, but figured there was good viral potential for his Ultras. Context goes out the window with viral content, so no great worry about the prior subject - heck this entire debacle has been the triumph of style over substance (or context)

Mairead McGuinness Brexit farewell.

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