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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #992
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Could the thread title be updated to something better worded/more informative/up to date perhaps? Mostly I'm just annoyed by the lack of capital letter
    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    could maybe do with a semicolon as well?

    new Coronavirus outbreak; ...
    fritzelly wrote: »
    Maybe add in threat level like for the weather ;)
    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Also should reflect the many off topic posts, where people refer to countries other than China, Korea, or the USA. People seem to think its for any country now.


    No :mad:

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



  • #993
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    I’m still of the opinion that there are currently 100s of thousands of people with the coronavirus and the death rate will be relatively low compared to the numbers effected.


  • #994
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    fritzelly wrote: »
    If those figures come to pass its scary

    its going to slow down at some stage, from exponential growth to steady growth, and then level off altogether,


  • #995
    daheff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭daheff


    So when are WHO going to call it an international emergency??


  • #996
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    No :mad:

    If they decide to change the children's hospital to a quarantine hospital can we get a thread title change?


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  • #997
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    daheff wrote: »
    So when are WHO going to call it an international emergency??

    WHO are pretty useless in any serious situation, bar soundbites for the general public


  • #998
    Idjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    daheff wrote: »
    So when are WHO going to call it an international emergency??

    Was just watching a live video with their health emergencies director (who is funnily enough, an Irish man) and they said they are having a meeting about that and will announce tomorrow whether they are considering it a global emergency.


  • #999
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,281 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The Chinese government are a great bunch of lads but I wouldn't believe anything they say on anything.

    It's a communist regime - that's how they operate and survive.


  • #1000
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The Chinese government are a great bunch of lads but I wouldn't believe anything they say on anything.

    It's a communist regime - that's how they operate and survive.

    I think it’s clear that nobody including most people in China believe the Chinese Government.


  • #1001
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    I think it’s clear that nobody including most people in China believe the Chinese Government.

    WHO are believing them, seriously with all the information coming out they should be questioning everything but they are not. Do they have people on the ground? No, why? This could be a serious pandemic


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  • #1002
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,281 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    This is worrying if true: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/health-experts-say-humantohuman-spread-of-new-virus-is-worrying/news-story/9c2a58ffe1060669fe65f8408ad5655e

    Cremating bodies in secret in China.

    They have quarantined almost 60 million people (and videos are being taken down every day of the actual worsening societal situation for those people within the zone, it's a black out). You don't do that for a handful of deaths. Like most I feel the situation is a lot worse than we are allowed to know.

    In a way it is understandable - no one wants to cause a panic either.

    Live updates here

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jan/30/coronavirus-live-updates-china-death-toll-wuhan-evacuation-foreign-nationals-citizens-latest-news


  • #1003
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jan/30/coronavirus-live-updates-china-death-toll-wuhan-evacuation-foreign-nationals-citizens-latest-news

    Australian authorities are now confirming what they know about how people can catch the virus: “In terms of walking past people in the street who may or may not be infected. That is also totally virtually safe. We’re talking about really close contact over a period of time. That’s an important message that people should take.”


  • #1004
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jan/30/coronavirus-live-updates-china-death-toll-wuhan-evacuation-foreign-nationals-citizens-latest-news

    Australian authorities are now confirming what they know about how people can catch the virus: “In terms of walking past people in the street who may or may not be infected. That is also totally virtually safe. We’re talking about really close contact over a period of time. That’s an important message that people should take.”

    Not sure how they can say that, people sneezing, coughing etc spreading the virus. Do they know something we don't?


  • #1005
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    In interesting news, China has now unblocked porn to keep people entertained at home :P


  • #1006
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not sure how they can say that, people sneezing, coughing etc spreading the virus. Do they know something we don't?


    I'm sure medical practitioners know lots of stuff we don't know, that is why they spent years in college and in practice.


  • #1007
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    I'm sure medical practitioners know lots of stuff we don't know, that is why they spent years in college and in practice.

    Ok so respiratory viruses are only spread by close contact
    And we're evacuating all Australians


  • #1008
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Ok so respiratory viruses are only spread by close contact

    Option 1: They are trying to keep social order

    Option 2: Its as common to get as a cold. So, prolonged contact, but passing somebody on the street might not get you a cold

    Option 3: Something is afoot, but I doubt it.


  • #1009
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Ok so respiratory viruses are only spread by close contact
    And we're evacuating all Australians


    I would imagine most respiratory infections happen with close contact. If these infections were passed on by passing people in the street then every cold or flue outbreak would be a near 100% infection rate in most towns and cities.


  • #1010
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Option 2 can give you the cold in no time


  • #1011
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jan/30/coronavirus-live-updates-china-death-toll-wuhan-evacuation-foreign-nationals-citizens-latest-news

    "Three Japanese nationals who returned home from Wuhan have tested positive for the coronavirus, Japan’s public broadcaster NHK said on Thursday, citing the health ministry. Two of the three had not shown any symptoms, the ministry said, according to NHK.

    The three infected people were among 206 Japanese who were repatriated on a government-chartered plane on Wednesday. A second plane carrying another 210 people landed in Tokyo on Thursday morning. The Japanese government is considering sending a third flight to collect a further 200 Japanese citizens who wish to return from Wuhan, the central Chinese city at the epicentre of the outbreak.

    Japan has 11 confirmed cases of the virus, including two that are believed to have resulted from human-to-human transmission – a bus driver in his 60s who drove tourists from Wuhan on two occasions earlier this month, and a female tour guide in her 40s who worked alongside the driver and the tourists. Neither of them have travelled abroad in the past month, NHK said."


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  • #1012
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    I would imagine most respiratory infections happen with close contact. If these infections were passed on by passing people in the street then every cold or flue outbreak would be a near 100% infection rate in most towns and cities.

    The respiratory infection is secondary unless I'm reading it wrong, this is flu like then affects the lungs big time


  • #1013
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    I’d say that’s the Olympics cancelled this summer.


  • #1014
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,700 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    fritzelly wrote: »
    The respiratory infection is secondary unless I'm reading it wrong, this is flu like then affects the lungs big time

    This is a respiratory illness, same as a cold and flu. In a small percentage of cases these can develop into complications such as pneumonia. Most people have less severe symptoms however and the indications are that this is no different.

    It spreads like the cold or flu, from coming into contact with infected droplets, either through being in proximity to a person sneezing or coughing, or by touching infected surfaces and transferring the virus from your hands to your eyes, nose or mouth. Theres nothing new about these methods of transmission.


  • #1015
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,700 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The person who was the first US case to be diagnosed in Washington state is recovering well and expected to be released from hospital later on this week. Good news


  • #1016
    Smiles35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    I’d say that’s the Olympics cancelled this summer.


    Would you say some countries might stop their competitors going?


  • #1017
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    I’d say that’s the Olympics cancelled this summer.


    Japanese people, in general, are hygiene freaks. If any country can prevent its' spread in-country over the next few months, it's Japan. I'd imagine they wouldn't be shy about stopping flights from China as well. They grumble about the amount of tourists they have already.


  • #1018
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,313 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Australian authorities are now confirming what they know about how people can catch the virus: “In terms of walking past people in the street who may or may not be infected. That is also totally virtually safe. We’re talking about really close contact over a period of time. That’s an important message that people should take.”

    Not totally sure about the language here... Colleagues in Germany were infected by an original patient. I would say "really close contact" about family members \ spouses NOT colleagues.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #1019
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,036 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    So whats peoples guess will the WHO declare an emergency at an international level in their meeting today?


  • #1020
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    I’d say that’s the Olympics cancelled this summer.

    Worried the Premier League will be affected also.. need Liverpool to get over the line asap!!


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  • #1021
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Worried the Premier League will be affected also.. need Liverpool to get over the line asap!!

    As long as they have technically won it on points, that'll be fine with me!


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