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Ionity charging network

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  • #1532
    Goldmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭✭Goldmark


    I signed up with Maingau and the app has worked fine but I could never get the RFID Card to work. Do you need to do some further registration after you receive it in the post


  • #1533
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    It may go up in price from 1st February. Then it will be X + 0.05/kWh


  • #1534
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,531 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    McGiver wrote: »
    It may go up in price from 1st February. Then it will be X + 0.05/kWh

    The price changes in February were mainly expected for BMW and VW.

    I don't think Maingau is going to change theirs, because it covers more than just Ionity and they are giving the charge to their own electricity customers for even less.

    Then again .. there is always that risk. But there is no monthly sub, so nothing lost either way.

    /M


  • #1535
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Marlow wrote:
    I don't think Maingau is going to change theirs, because it covers more than just Ionity and they are giving the charge to their own electricity customers for even less.
    I'll watch Chargepoint closely. If it's going to stay at 7.42.


  • #1536
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭redcup342


    Goldmark wrote: »
    I signed up with Maingau and the app has worked fine but I could never get the RFID Card to work. Do you need to do some further registration after you receive it in the post

    You need to register the card in the app


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  • #1537
    spakman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭spakman


    I charged my Kona at the Ionity chargers in Athlone a couple of times. From what I saw, the max speed was 50kWh.
    Is that the max charge speed of the Kona, I couldn't find that detail anywhere online!
    Or is that the max of the Ionity chargers in Athlone?


  • #1538
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    spakman wrote: »
    I charged my Kona at the Ionity chargers in Athlone a couple of times. From what I saw, the max speed was 50kWh.
    Is that the max charge speed of the Kona, I couldn't find that detail anywhere online!
    Or is that the max of the Ionity chargers in Athlone?

    If the battery is too cold then the Kona will restrict charge speed.

    However Athlone is known to give issues.

    Full speed on a Kona should be something like 77 kw.

    Why your car isnt giving that isnt clear.


  • #1539
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Charge speed also depends of your state of charge and is reduced when the battery is getting closer to full charge.


  • #1540
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭redcup342


    spakman wrote: »
    I charged my Kona at the Ionity chargers in Athlone a couple of times. From what I saw, the max speed was 50kWh.
    Is that the max charge speed of the Kona, I couldn't find that detail anywhere online!
    Or is that the max of the Ionity chargers in Athlone?

    Fastned_ChargeCurve_Kona.png

    Max 77kW, Should be faster than that unless the car is too cold/too hot.


  • #1541
    Goldmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭✭Goldmark


    spakman wrote: »
    I charged my Kona at the Ionity chargers in Athlone a couple of times. From what I saw, the max speed was 50kWh.
    Is that the max charge speed of the Kona, I couldn't find that detail anywhere online!
    Or is that the max of the Ionity chargers in Athlone?

    I also have a Kona and the max speed I have achieved is something just above 50kWh at Athlone. Low battery temp was suggested as the cause.

    I purchased an OBD dongle and installed the Torque App and checked the battery temps. It is very hard to raise the battery temperature of the Kona just by driving and the most I could get it up to was 18-19C at winter temps. I was told that it might need to be above 25C to get maximum charge speeds.

    In my opinion the battery heater is sort of redundant when it cannot be used to help achieve optimum battery temp to ensure maximum charge speeds. I have never seen the battery heater engage so it must cut in at -5C or -10C.


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  • #1542
    spakman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭spakman


    Ok, cheers - will check again next time


  • #1543
    charlieIRL
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    redcup342 wrote: »
    You need to register the card in the app

    Thanks a million Redcup, I just checked my app and neither my RFID card or fob were registered on it. Have them added now which is great as i need to use it on Saturday.


  • #1544
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Right. First attempt at Ionity Athlone Circle K.

    Free CCS/Chademo Circle K didn't work, no error, nothing.

    Tried Ionity #1 via Charge my EV (Bosch) app, got stuck, got an error.
    Tried starting the charge via ChargePoint app with a QR code which worked immediately. I was charged 7.42 euro.

    I'm fine with ChargePoint for now.


  • #1545
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Goldmark wrote: »
    So 15C is a cut off point on a 50kWh charger and the battery heater comes on when you start charging at below 15C and cuts out when you reach that.

    I wonder is there a higher cut off point at say 25C for charging on a 150kWh and getting the ~77kWh speed. It would be great if the battery heating could be done on the way to the charger.

    It's very conservative.

    Tesla pushes the Model 3 battery to over 50C.

    I won't embed this enormous image...

    https://i.imgur.com/jCy6oOP.png

    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dof7d1/150_kw_supercharging_revisited_with_can_data/
    Just prior to supercharging I burned 25% SoC doing several hard accelerations (had to test the app of course), so despite an outside temperature of around 0°C the battery was already at 32°C when I pulled in to charge.

    :D


  • #1546
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,531 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    McGiver wrote: »
    Right. First attempt at Ionity Athlone Circle K.

    Free CCS/Chademo Circle K didn't work, no error, nothing.

    Tried Ionity #1 via Charge my EV (Bosch) app, got stuck, got an error.
    Tried starting the charge via ChargePoint app with a QR code which worked immediately. I was charged 7.42 euro.

    I'm fine with ChargePoint for now.

    Company account with VAT no specified ? That's what would have resulted in that pricing.
    zg3409 wrote: »
    Did you press start on it? Have you used it before?
    You reset them by putting the cable back or hitting the plug holder door. I believe these are set to stop at 80% full. Were you above 80%?

    Lots of people have been reporting them broken on PlugShare lately. Seems to be an issue, that Topaz are aware of and they've just not been able to get somebody out to fix it yet.

    /M


  • #1547
    jusmeig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    McGiver wrote: »
    Right. First attempt at Ionity Athlone Circle K.

    Free CCS/Chademo Circle K didn't work, no error, nothing.

    Tried Ionity #1 via Charge my EV (Bosch) app, got stuck, got an error.
    Tried starting the charge via ChargePoint app with a QR code which worked immediately. I was charged 7.42 euro.

    I'm fine with ChargePoint for now.

    ChargePoint bill you independently to Ionity?
    I used Ionity app once in Cashel and was on the phone twice to get a charge started. That was in the 2 weeks or so. Has it not got any better?


  • #1548
    spakman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭spakman


    jusmeig wrote: »
    ChargePoint bill you independently to Ionity?
    I used Ionity app once in Cashel and was on the phone twice to get a charge started. That was in the 2 weeks or so. Has it not got any better?

    I've used Ionity in Athlone twice and started session both times without a problem - once as a 'guest' and once when logged in to my own account.


  • #1549
    jusmeig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    spakman wrote: »
    I've used Ionity in Athlone twice and started session both times without a problem - once as a 'guest' and once when logged in to my own account.

    OK, so hopefully a case where people are reporting edge cases...and most people are charging away!


  • #1550
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,531 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    jusmeig wrote: »
    OK, so hopefully a case where people are reporting edge cases...and most people are charging away!

    Just look in the reviews in plugshare ... plenty of people reporting the Ionity chargers working.

    Tesla users even report charge statistics. I see one 2 days ago in Athlone, that ramped up to 114kW on a Tesla S and charged from 21%-90% in 1hr 10 minutes in wet climate at 9 degrees celsius.

    Also, the Circle K CCS charger in Athlone has been working in December, looking at the reviews. It just is broke since.

    /M


  • #1551
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Marlow wrote: »
    Company account with VAT no specified ? That's what would have resulted in that pricing.
    Nope, normal account AFAIK.


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  • #1552
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    jusmeig wrote: »
    ChargePoint bill you independently to Ionity?
    Yep, that's my understanding. We'll see more of this from 1st February. Nobody will go directly to Ionity and pay 0.79/kWh.


  • #1553
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 6,500 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Mod Note: Moved Circle K Charger discussion to Circle K thread => https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058015052&page=6


  • #1554
    BigAl81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    Does anyone know when the Kill stations near Naas are opening up? The seem to have been building them for ages!?

    In other news, I noticed the Maingau app has had an overhaul. It's in English now too. Not sure if you can sign up via the app, but anyone who couldn't sign up before, it might be worth a try again now.

    The app is called EinfachStrom Laden.


  • #1555
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    I just signed up.


  • #1556
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    September1 wrote: »
    I checked today and Chargepoint is now 7.42 per session.
    Yup, I used it twice in the last week, 7.42 now


  • #1557
    September1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭September1


    This app https://www.eins.de/privatkunden/elektromobilitaet/oeffentliches-laden/ is providing pretty good 32.25c/kWh rate at Ionity. It worked for me in Athlone.


  • #1558
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    September1 wrote: »
    This app https://www.eins.de/privatkunden/elektromobilitaet/oeffentliches-laden/ is providing pretty good 32.25c/kWh rate at Ionity. It worked for me in Athlone.
    Just tried there and got trhe "registration failed"


  • #1559
    WattsUp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭WattsUp


    For the EinfachStrom Laden app is there a credit card option or is it only direct debit ?


  • #1560
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    WattsUp wrote: »
    For the EinfachStrom Laden app is there a credit card option or is it only direct debit ?
    only debit frombank or paypal I thought


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  • #1561
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Just tried there and got trhe "registration failed"

    Ditto


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