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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #512
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    bmc58 wrote: »
    Some year it will happen and will wipe out millions of us.Natures way of balancing things.

    Lets hope you're right :rolleyes:


  • #513
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Is it caught like normal flu?
    More like the common cold it seems. More infectious and the virus lasts much longer than the flu virus on hard surfaces.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #514
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    On a general level the majority will survive a virus like this. Like flu.

    So why the hysteria?

    Is there more to this or what?

    It causes a high incidence of pneumonia. I don't know if you've ever had pneumonia, but my wife developed it after a respiratory virus and even as a healthy vital woman in early middle age, it left her debilitated for weeks and below par for months after.

    Be blasé about this if you will, but if it hits the young kids, or the elderly people, or those carrying underlying conditions that you care about, I suspect you will have a different attitude.


  • #515
    John Doe1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    My little sister is working in a city not too far from Wuhan, she had booked flights to come home at the end of March. A lot of the ex-pats working in her school are leaving before a lockdown comes in.

    Im a bit worried to say the least.


  • #516
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    five Million Potential Carriers Have Left Wuhan As Coronavirus Appears To Mutate Into "More Transmissable" Form says mayor. Grim news

    Ideal. Should all countries not be closing borders on that news?


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  • #517
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    My little sister is working in a city not too far from Wuhan, she had booked flights to come home at the end of March. A lot of the ex-pats working in her school are leaving before a lockdown comes in.

    Im a bit worried to say the least.

    Well we see the CCP are willing to barricade millions of people inside a city with an outbreak whose scale they have been and I believe continue to lie about. I wouldn't take my chances in a situation like that.


  • #518
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    What I would like to get an update on is the confirmed cases.

    The media are acting like the 1950 people in China are on life support with a killer virus and we’re all getting wiped out.

    Meanwhile the 3 positive results in France:

    The head of France’s health department, Jerome Salomon, said Saturday evening that all three are doing “very well.”

    Then we turn to the 4 positive results in the US:

    The patient has been hospitalized, but no other details about that case were made available.

    The other three patients remain hospitalized in isolation, but are said to be doing well.


  • #519
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    What I would like to get an update on is the confirmed cases.

    The media are acting like the 1950 people in China are on life support with a killer virus and we’re all getting wiped out.

    Meanwhile the 3 positive results in France:

    The head of France’s health department, Jerome Salomon, said Saturday evening that all three are doing “very well.”

    Then we turn to the 4 positive results in the US:

    The patient has been hospitalized, but no other details about that case were made available.

    The other three patients remain hospitalized in isolation, but are said to be doing well.


    From what I've heard, China's medical centre is below par, but I would be curious about Klaz's opinion on the matter.


  • #520
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    It causes a high incidence of pneumonia. I don't know if you've ever had pneumonia, but my wife developed it after a respiratory virus and even as a healthy vital woman in early middle age, it left her debilitated for weeks and below par for months after.

    Be blasé about this if you will, but if it hits the young kids, or the elderly people, or those carrying underlying conditions that you care about, I suspect you will have a different attitude.

    How many of the 2000 confirm got pneumonia?


  • #521
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    As any lifecoach (or suchlike), would recommend, time to look at the positves, in a bad situation:

    ☼ 3mths isn't too long to bunker down, until the 'Gates?' Vax becomes available.
    ☼ 95% reduction in global multi-layer traffic for a few months, will let the planet breath.
    ☼ Some folks will stop eating barely cooked, random, small animals.
    ☼ Chinese atheists may turn to some sort of godhead figure and consider an afterlife to reflect upon in this life.
    ☼ Starmucks will be replaced with a mash-up of immune boosting herbs, spice and megadose VitC with minerals.
    ☼ House prices will drop about 30% for all the young buyers.
    ☼ Traffic jams will diminish, various product surpluses appear

    and so on...


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  • #522
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    China now claiming new vancine tests are showing to be sucessful. They better be right.


  • #523
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    You know, I know China is only showing 'strong government' to it's people, but it is hilariously looking bad from the outside.


  • #524
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    China now claiming new vancine tests are showing to be sucessful. They better be right.
    Is it not to soon to know a vaccine works, are they subjecting people to the virus deliberately?


  • #525
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Is it not to soon to know a vaccine works, are they subjecting people to the virus deliberately?

    there is a wild theory out there on this


  • #526
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Is it not to soon to know a vaccine works, are they subjecting people to the virus deliberately?

    Tested on some nurses in the lab apparently ....wouldn't surprise me.


  • #527
    [Deleted User]
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    creditcarder wrote: »
    From what I've heard, China's medical centre is below par, but I would be curious about Klaz's opinion on the matter.

    Depends where/how they're being treated. Mainstream hospitals in China are pretty awful, although there's been a movement in recent years to improve the overall quality. The problem is the integration of Chinese traditional medicine and sometimes very badly trained staff (including doctors). The "military" hospitals (which are available to the public but can be expensive) are excellent.


  • #528
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Tested on some nurses in the lab apparently ....wouldn't surprise me.

    Where do I read about this testing?


  • #529
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    creditcarder wrote: »
    You know, I know China is only showing 'strong government' to it's people, but it is hilariously looking bad from the outside.

    You know that they don't care what foreigners think... not really. Their only concern that no major unrest is created and directed towards the government.

    TBH I wouldn't be too surprised to hear (in a month or so after everyone is cured) that this was somehow an attack by foreign governments like Japan to weaken China...


  • #530
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Tested on some nurses in the lab apparently ....wouldn't surprise me.

    Could have a natural immunity and hardly a great sample case to say it works
    How long to even manufacture a vaccine and then waiting time to see if it works


  • #531
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    TWIV podcast

    http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-584


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  • #532
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    On a general level the majority will survive a virus like this. Like flu.

    So why the hysteria?

    Is there more to this or what?

    A lot is unknown, and what's unknown is scary! So far, it is much more lethal than seasonal flu, also spreads faster, and has no cure. That is why its hyped up, better to be safe than sorry

    Yes most people will survive, I dont think anyone has ever thought otherwise. The difference is much more people appear right now to be at risk than with usual flu


  • #533
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths from flu.

    The death toll rising to 80 from 56 yesterday would be 24 deaths in a day. 24 deaths per day would be 8760 deaths/year if it continues, so this does certainly now appear more dangerous than the flu. And cases are growing enormously in China with infections growing to 2500 today,it is also an extremely early period in the disease development/spread. So there is cause for alarm, and it certainly appears right now to be a much more serious issue than the flu.


  • #534
    Wibbs
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    Mr.S wrote: »
    Of course there’s an Irish man making a lighthearted video in Wuhan :D
    Check out the other Channel 4 vids he's in. Ben is most definitely hardcore representing the Be Grand(tm) internationally. Now, if a video emerges where Ben is stockpiling Brennan's sliced pan, Tayto and beer, that's the point where we need to change our collective underwear. :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #535
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,730 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    wakka12 wrote: »
    The death toll rising to 80 from 56 yesterday would be 24 deaths in a day.

    there were about 15 deaths the day before, and 15 the day before that, so... I was wondering if the total would jump to over 100 today, probably safe to say it will by this time tomorrow


  • #536
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    China now claiming new vancine tests are showing to be sucessful. They better be right.

    Jesus the hysteria. If it was a massive threat we would have closed our borders by now.


  • #537
    The chan chan man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭The chan chan man


    Its waaaay worse than the Chinese are letting on. I find it hard to believe they’re building a dedicated hospital in 6 days and quarantining entire cities...because less than 100 people died...


  • #538
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Number of confirmed cases in China jump by almost 1,000 in one day
    Almost 300 people in critical or serious condition in Wuhan hospitals
    https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

    Almost 6,000 others suspected in China
    https://news.qq.com//zt2020/page/feiyan.htm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

    Some good news, there is no confirmation by CDC that the disease is actually transmittable during the incubation phase, despite earlier reports that it was.


  • #539
    iamgroot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭iamgroot


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Jesus the hysteria. If it was a massive threat we would have closed our borders by now.

    I'm in a province next to Wuhan city, had to rebook our flights to return early in case the hysteria keeps spreading. :)

    Had a bad cough the last few days though. Hope its just lung cancer and not the deadly coronavirus!


  • #540
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url




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  • #541
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    It is amazing how the death of an American Basketball player can wipe out a potential global pandemic in less than 24 hours. That guy is a martyr.

    I can sleep at night at last, phew.


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