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New, unregistered Irish-bought car from 1976 - where do I start?

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    #122
    SmartinMartin
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    That is very exciting. What a find.


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    #123
    [Deleted User]
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    time machine stuff.

    the black exterior paint and tan interior works well - nice colour combo choice at least!

    it's actually quite a handsome car imo


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    #124
    Car99
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    What's your plans for the car OP ?

    If your going to sell it , dont do anything to it , dont even start to clean it.


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    #125
    iamtony
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    Great to wake up to these pics, it's amazing how well preserved it is. Cant wait for future updates on where it will end up etc.


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    #126
    iamtony
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    Car99 wrote: »
    What's your plans for the car OP ?

    If your going to sell it , dont do anything to it , dont even start to clean it.

    If I was the op I dont think I could sell it. Would this get 201 plates if it were registered today?


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    #127
    Seweryn
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    iamtony wrote: »
    If I was the op I dont think I could sell it. Would this get 201 plates if it were registered today?
    Yes, that is unfortunate. And meeting NCT emission standards may be tricky.


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    #128
    macplaxton
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    I think I gave the example early in the thread of the Mercedes-Benz truck that got a ZV plate having been used for years unregistered.


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    #129
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    Car99 wrote: »
    What's your plans for the car OP ?

    If your going to sell it , dont do anything to it , dont even start to clean it.


    Immediate plan would be to get it running - but I need to do some research first as I've no idea what needs to be looked at in an engine that's been sat there unused for 40+ years - and obviously I don't want to do any damage.


    Also I don't know anything about cars myself so I've gotta find someone I can really trust to bring it back to life in the 'as new' condition it merits.


    I don't think I'll worry about the registration/taxation side of things until after that. I'm sorta thinking it might be nice to leave it unregistered and display it as a 'new' car, but have it in pristine running condition.



    Definitely not gonna sell it though - it's very existence reminds me so much of the likeable eccentricities of its former owner that it's really gotta stay in the family :)


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    #130
    pablo128
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    https://youtu.be/ToZn6kU_0pU


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    #131
    [Deleted User]
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    pablo128 wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/ToZn6kU_0pU

    Fascinating on lots of levels. The stiff upper lip car exec only briefly stuttered before going on to say the the Diesel engine was less harmful than petrol... the only thing I can think of is that maybe in comparison to leaded petrol he may have been right. In which case apologies to the Free Mason :p


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    #132
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    something strangely Monty Python-esque about that man!!


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    #133
    Odyssey 2005
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    alfa beta wrote: »
    Immediate plan would be to get it running - but I need to do some research first as I've no idea what needs to be looked at in an engine that's been sat there unused for 40+ years - and obviously I don't want to do any damage.


    Also I don't know anything about cars myself so I've gotta find someone I can really trust to bring it back to life in the 'as new' condition it merits.


    I don't think I'll worry about the registration/taxation side of things until after that. I'm sorta thinking it might be nice to leave it unregistered and display it as a 'new' car, but have it in pristine running condition.



    Definitely not gonna sell it though - it's very existence reminds me so much of the likeable eccentricities of its former owner that it's really gotta stay in the family :)

    There was a fella who lived opposite irish helicopters at the back of the airport who had/has a brand new Morris minor, unregistered and never saw the road. He trailered it to car shows.


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    #134
    SmartinMartin
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    He still has it. Last one made in Ireland.


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    #135
    [Deleted User]
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    I do wonder what the hypothetical value of such a find is though even if the OP does not wish to sell it.

    If there is a mega wealthy person out there who has some nostalgic memories of the family car as a kid or something like that then that is the dream customer.

    I imagine that the fact that the diesel is so noisy and slow (55bhp, 22 seconds to 60) would put people off even if it would be only an occasional use / classic car?

    some asking values here

    https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/87/504/

    £20k sterling?


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    #136
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Cars left undriven for a long number of years, often require more work and expense to re commision
    than originally thought.


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    [Deleted User]
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    kadman wrote: »
    Cars left undriven for a long number of years, often require more work and expense to re commision
    than originally thought.

    yes. can accept that. what are the main issues usually - perished rubber tubing and seals etc must be a big issue?


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    #138
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Main issues is what has moisture done to all the components of a stored car.

    Rubber tubing and seal replacement, in all the components that may have deteriration,
    nclude a huge number of components.

    You have all the brake components like, master cylinder, wheel cylinders. Possibly
    clutch hydraulic components, maybe power steering components too.

    These alone are labour intensive to check and replace. And thats just for starters.

    The engine itself in a laid up car, may not now be what it was when it was parked in there.
    Unless it was consistently started over a period of time, it may need more than a battery.

    No oil splashing around an engine means bits and pieces may now well be coated in a fine layer of rust,
    which has tendency to cause parts to stick to each other, like rings to pistons, and pistons to liners.
    Siezing an engine, means an engine stripdown.


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    #139
    BonnieSituation
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    alfa beta wrote: »
    Immediate plan would be to get it running - but I need to do some research first as I've no idea what needs to be looked at in an engine that's been sat there unused for 40+ years - and obviously I don't want to do any damage.


    Also I don't know anything about cars myself so I've gotta find someone I can really trust to bring it back to life in the 'as new' condition it merits.


    I don't think I'll worry about the registration/taxation side of things until after that. I'm sorta thinking it might be nice to leave it unregistered and display it as a 'new' car, but have it in pristine running condition.



    Definitely not gonna sell it though - it's very existence reminds me so much of the likeable eccentricities of its former owner that it's really gotta stay in the family :)

    Honestly I think with something like this if you got onto Gowan or Peugeot themselves they'd be more than willing to assist you getting this going again. Car heads love this stuff and this has practically just rolled off the factory floor. Bound to be someone in their that would be intrigued by it.


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    #140
    Charles Babbage
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    Production of this model continued in Nigeria until 2006, so also driving on the left. consequently, there might still be reasonable supply of parts there for hoses etc.


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    #141
    carchaeologist
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    Truly wonderful stuff! Such a car is probably unique today. If it is to stay in the family I would say it needs to be kept unregistered and undriven really to keep its 'new' status. It would be a great exhibit in a Peugeot dealers showroom. A car like that needs to be seen.
    Stories like this are great, what a man your dad was!


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    #142
    w124man
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Honestly I think with something like this if you got onto Gowan or Peugeot themselves they'd be more than willing to assist you getting this going again.

    This is assuming that they would know what to do! I dropped my 300SE into an MB dealer in the UK and they didn't know what it was!


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    #143
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    Yeah I’d say it’s unlikely anyone in a Peugeot dealers these days would have a clue about them. A few salesman and apprentice mechanics.
    I don’t know how you’d do it but maybe if you found a retired Peugeot mechanic or specialist, something like that.


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    #144
    junkyarddog
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    Amazing to see this car!

    Personally I wouldn't put it going,or change anything on it,tyres included.
    Just preserve it as is.
    It's totally unique,and that's where it's value lays.

    Thank you for sharing the pics of it,it's a privilege.

    That looks like an early VW type 3 squareback beside it too :D


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    #145
    John_Rambo
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    Following!! Nice back story alfa beta. Best of luck.


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    #146
    Odelay
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    Fcuk the money, keep the car and drive it. You're not a museum curator. Its meant to be driven, the next man to buy it will do so. Enjoy the car.


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    #147
    harr
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    Odelay wrote: »
    Fcuk the money, keep the car and drive it. You're not a museum curator. Its meant to be driven, the next man to buy it will do so. Enjoy the car.
    This would be my thinking as well ... nice way to spend the weekends traveling to various car shows . Hopefully it doesn’t require to much work to get going.


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    #148
    alfa beta
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    junkyarddog wrote: »
    That looks like an early VW type 3 squareback beside it too :D


    yep - VW Variant type 3 - mid 60's i think - must check reg tomorrow to see exact year



    The old man only kept the VW coz it was the car he and his missus headed off on their honeymoon in, sentimental value I guess :-).



    As far as I know they headed up through the country and across to Scotland, then toured the highlands before driving back down through England and Wales. The car itself broke down in Pembroke but they managed (with some help) to push it onto the car ferry and then off at the other end in Rosslare, at which point my father managed to get his hands on another car with which he (rather unceremoniously) towed his new bride back home!! .... I'm never sure if my mother really knew what she let herself in for when she said yes to that man, but to be fair, I think she enjoyed the adventures that followed!!!


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    #149
    swarlb
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    w124man wrote: »
    This is assuming that they would know what to do! I dropped my 300SE into an MB dealer in the UK and they didn't know what it was!

    What did they think it was ???


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    #150
    wmahcm
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    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    Production of this model continued in Nigeria until 2006, so also driving on the left. consequently, there might still be reasonable supply of parts there for hoses etc.

    Ordinary Africans don't waste much money and know the real value of something. A neighbor of ours kept one on the road for years until he eventually wore it out. He still talks about it being the one of the best ordinary cars ever made.


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    #151
    wmahcm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭wmahcm


    Odelay wrote: »
    Fcuk the money, keep the car and drive it. You're not a museum curator. Its meant to be driven, the next man to buy it will do so. Enjoy the car.

    Agreed, it would be a real shame if this car ended up in some rich guy's glass case.


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