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Australian Open 2020

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  • #102
    EagererBeaver
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    jr86 wrote: »
    I'd like to think she won't win anymore but put someone like sharapova, radwanska or Errani across the net from her last July at the Wimbledon final

    Sharapova aside, what sort of comparison is that. Neither radwanska nor errani have ever figured anywhere close to the Wimbledon final.


  • #103
    yerwanthere123
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Sharapova aside, what sort of comparison is that. Neither radwanska nor errani have ever figured anywhere close to the Wimbledon final.

    :confused:



  • #104
    EagererBeaver
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    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    :confused:


    Jesus, my apologies, I have absolutely no recollection of that final at all.


  • #105
    Joe_ Public
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    Watched pliskova lose last night, she was really bad, 6-7 6-7 scoreline flattered her. Showed a stat that she had a negative career record in tie breaks which is surprising for a player of her stature with her power and commanding serve. I'd expect her to be 60%+ in that department. I despair for her at this point.


  • #106
    jr86
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    Ah just fk off khachanov :pac:

    He'll win about 6 games v Nadal, stop standing in the way of an absolute box office kyrgios Nadal encounter


  • #107
    jr86
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    Does anyone have that Ian Beale crying gif?

    That'll be the all of the tournament organisers, Aussie fans and TV broadcasters if Khachanov wins this.


  • #108
    dominatinMC
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    jr86 wrote: »
    Ah just fk off khachanov :pac:

    He'll win about 6 games v Nadal, stop standing in the way of an absolute box office kyrgios Nadal encounter
    Tbf, he gave Nadal socks of it in the USO two years ago. He can be a challenge on his day


  • #109
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    come on Krygios

    what a serve there!

    first to 10 points

    khachanov serve has been very strong in the latter part of the match but hopefully Krygios can do it.


  • #110
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    done it.

    gritty victory. showed resolve. I didn't fancy his chances when khachanov had 2 serves 8-7 up in the breaker.

    the organisers must be loving the match-up with Nadal.

    hopefully ends up being a match.


  • #111
    jr86
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    Phew!!

    The Aussie versions of DoneDeal and Toutless.com get a nice reprieve also :pac:

    Nadal v Nick it is - there'll be fireworks!!!


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  • #112
    yerwanthere123
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    Shame I won't get to see any of the match on Monday, although at the same time I could probably do without it. A Nadal-Kyrgios match is literally the only time I'd ever have to root for Nadal.


  • #113
    jr86
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    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    Shame I won't get to see any of the match on Monday, although at the same time I could probably do without it. A Nadal-Kyrgios match is literally the only time I'd ever have to root for Nadal.

    Haha I'll still be shouting for NK - I'm willing to give him a fresh chance for 2020. if nothing else he's a far better player to watch imo, winners from all sides!

    He also gets under Nadal's skin so much and the evil part of me finds it delicious!

    One thing's for sure, microwave popcorn will be added to my shopping list for Monday


  • #114
    yerwanthere123
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    jr86 wrote: »
    Haha I'll still be shouting for NK - I'm willing to give him a fresh chance for 2020. if nothing else he's a far better player to watch imo, winners from all sides!

    He also gets under Nadal's skin so much and the evil part of me finds it delicious!

    One thing's for sure, microwave popcorn will be added to my shopping list for Monday

    Why though, nothing's changed? He's still the same terrible person he always was. And to think I was always among his biggest defenders. The whole angsty badboy thing is kinda interesting for a while but we've all got to grow up some time. His comments towards the Irish umpire were more than enough for me to know what kind of a person Nick Kyrgios really is. Not to worry though, he'll upload some photo of himself visiting a sick child and it'll all be ok again, I guess?


  • #115
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    He's probably a dick if you had to spend a week with him but you will never meet him so why let that bother you.

    He can play great entertaining tennis and if he's not acting up is also refreshingly open and honest which contrasts with most of the robotic responses you get from players on tour so overall he's an addition to the game that makes it more interesting as a result.


  • #116
    yerwanthere123
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    He's probably a dick if you had to spend a week with him but you will never meet him so why let that bother you.

    I don't. I just don't root for him any more.
    He can play great entertaining tennis and if he's not acting up is also refreshingly open and honest which contrasts with most of the robotic responses you get from players on tour so overall he's an addition to the game that makes it more interesting as a result

    He can do all these things without being a c*nt.


  • #117
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    most people are not black and white but far more complex so the good comes with the bad.

    the fact is that the generic tennis persona expected to be trotted out where, when asked, your opponent is great and lovely is deathly boring and completely fake.

    tennis needs a talented (skills wise) outspoken type like Krygios being perfectly honest and I can enjoy it at a distance for the interest it generates. he is genuinely talented and has the skills to excite - that's what's important. if he brings occasional flashes of brilliance every now and again that's enough to brighten up the scene. he doesn't have to be amazing every week to do that but if he does manage to put in a full week he has shown that he can win tournaments.


  • #118
    whiterebel
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    I'd like to see NK do well just to use that talent he has, if nothing else. The sport has been crying out for genuine characters and then slaughters him. Fed admits himself he wasn't the most pleasant of young fellas when he was younger. Whats happening now in Oz may affect him, making him think a bit more about important things,


  • #119
    EagererBeaver
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    whiterebel wrote: »
    I'd like to see NK do well just to use that talent he has, if nothing else. The sport has been crying out for genuine characters and then slaughters him. Fed admits himself he wasn't the most pleasant of young fellas when he was younger. Whats happening now in Oz may affect him, making him think a bit more about important things,

    This is absolute nonsense to be honest. He's a dick, not a "character". There's nothing hypocritical, as your post implies, about calling out a dick for being a dick.

    Nobody was crying out for a loudmouth brat who isn't prepared to put the work in alongside his marvellous talent to turn up on the tour, were they?


  • #120
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    there will always be people who have lots of talent but maybe just couldn't be arsed or don't maybe just don't have the mental make-up to make the most of it.

    having all the skills is only one side of things and some just don't fully have the other side - the mental side of mental strength and diligence. the multiple GS winners have both.

    Kyrgios's dick side when it appears is that - being a dick. nobody was calling out for that but it's there. although he has been fairly well-behaved since last August.

    but if he wants to play tennis and not practice as much as others or whatever - that's his choice and he's allowed do that.

    who knows how much work the other guys put in - Kyrgios admits that he doesn't do a lot - could easily be the case for others also but they just don't say it.


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  • #121
    NoviGlitzko
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    Getting bored with the Coco Gauff hype that's been floating around for the last year. Fully expect she'll dominate the game for her generation but the love in is (IMO) eye-rolling when her game isn't exactly explosive and she hasn't shown much of her personality (how can she when's 15), much like Osaka.

    Seen Rod Laver tweet about Coco after her recent win. Not so much for anyone else who wasn't black.


  • #122
    EagererBeaver
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    NoviGlitzko wrote: »
    Getting bored with the Coco Gauff hype that's been floating around for the last year. Fully expect she'll dominate the game for her generation but the love in is (IMO) eye-rolling when her game isn't exactly explosive and she hasn't shown much of her personality (how can she when's 15), much like Osaka.

    Seen Rod Laver tweet about Coco after her recent win. Not so much for anyone else who wasn't black.

    Oh dear.


  • #123
    Joe_ Public
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    Ironic in that if you do "fully expect her to dominate her generation then you are, in your own small way, merely adding to the hype. I dont expect her to do that at all and I'm definitely a fan of hers. Indeed, more of the expert opinion I've heard has been quite cautious, like Becker for example. Hype is just inevitable and so far at least, she's justifying it.


  • #124
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    Her beating Osaka is just another sign of how poor and inconsistent the women's game is.

    A 15 year-old beating last year's champion?

    Then is beaten anyway in the next round.


  • #125
    NoviGlitzko
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Oh dear.
    Well it's true. Her game doesn't warrant the attention. Kyrgios for example was deservedly talked about when he was 17 or so when he beat Nadal at Wimbledon because his method to beat Rafa was a breath of fresh air. Maybe it's the age, however there's always been up and coming proven tennis talent who's never been mentioned.
    glasso wrote: »
    Her beating Osaka is just another sign of how poor and inconsistent the women's game is.

    A 15 year-old beating last year's champion?

    Then is beaten anyway in the next round.
    Agreed, although I actually like that about the women's game in some ways. Men's tennis is an extremely predictable sport with the top guys, and even more predictable on the slower surfaces.


  • #126
    EagererBeaver
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    Kyrgios was 19 when he beat Nadal at Wimbledon. The game he used to do it was hitting Nadal off the court, just like Rosol and Brown did. What was "fresh" was his age. Gauff is 15 FFS. Sheemade the 4th round last year and she's backed it up since, winning a title and doing well, winning multiple matches at each of her next two slams, at, again, 15!

    It's nothing to do with her being black.


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  • #127
    NoviGlitzko
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Kyrgios was 19 when he beat Nadal at Wimbledon. The game he used to do it was hitting Nadal off the court, just like Rosol and Brown did. What was "fresh" was his age. Gauff is 15 FFS. Sheemade the 4th round last year and she's backed it up since, winning a title and doing well, winning multiple matches at each of her next two slams, at, again, 15!

    It's nothing to do with her being black.
    Fair enough. But there is more hype around her now than there was for Djokovic when he was breaking through. I'm not trying to get at her I hope to be a fan, just saying.


  • #128
    yerwanthere123
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    Yeah, to try and attribute the Gauff hype to her being black is ridiculous. She reached the 4th round of Wimbledon by beating a legend of the sport along the way. She reached the 4th round of the Australian Open by beating the defending champion. She became the youngest WTA title-holder in over fifteen years, and all of this achieved at an age in Ireland she'd be doing her Junior Cert exams. It's a huge story, and even more so because it's in a sport that's getting older and more mature and the days of teenage prodigies are almost entirely gone. There's more hype for her now than Djokovic when he was breaking through because Djokovic wasn't doing this at 15. Anyway, it might amount to nothing. Gauff could go on to win 25+ grand slams, or this could be her peak and we won't hear too much more from her after her teens. Either way, whilst it is excessive, the hype for now is warranted.

    Anyway I'm glad she lost for now, I just don't think this level of attention/expectation at age 15 could be good for anyone.


  • #129
    EagererBeaver
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    NoviGlitzko wrote: »
    Fair enough. But there is more hype around her now than there was for Djokovic when he was breaking through. I'm not trying to get at her I hope to be a fan, just saying.

    Djokovic wasn't making the second week of grand slams at 15 though?


  • #130
    NoviGlitzko
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Djokovic wasn't making the second week of grand slams at 15 though?
    What male has? Women develop earlier than men. Something like Rafa's form at 17 is more comparable.


  • #131
    Joe_ Public
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    Whats the rod laver stuff about anyway? All i can is gauff mentioning after beating osaka that she'd love to meet him and take a selfie, you know a teenage thing, and laver tweeting that he'd be happy to oblige. What more is there to it than that?


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  • #132
    EagererBeaver
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    NoviGlitzko wrote: »
    What male has? Women develop earlier than men. Something like Rafa's form at 17 is more comparable.

    And Rafa was incredibly hyped...


  • #133
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    NoviGlitzko wrote: »
    Well it's true. Her game doesn't warrant the attention. Kyrgios for example was deservedly talked about when he was 17 or so when he beat Nadal at Wimbledon because his method to beat Rafa was a breath of fresh air. Maybe it's the age, however there's always been up and coming proven tennis talent who's never been mentioned.

    Agreed, although I actually like that about the women's game in some ways. Men's tennis is an extremely predictable sport with the top guys, and even more predictable on the slower surfaces.

    That's true but I'll take that to be able to see actual quality tennis matches in the late tournament stages.


  • #134
    EagererBeaver
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Whats the rod laver stuff about anyway? All i can is gauff mentioning after beating osaka that she'd love to meet him and take a selfie, you know a teenage thing, and laver tweeting that he'd be happy to oblige. What more is there to it than that?

    HE'S TERRIFIED OF LIVING IN THIS MODERN PC WORLD SO WANTED TO GET A PHOTO WITH A BLACK PERSON SO AS NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE.

    (or at least the thought process appears to be something like that)


  • #135
    yerwanthere123
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    More surgery needed for Del Potro, having it tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1221435529238994944


  • #136
    mzungu
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    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    More surgery needed for Del Potro, having it tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1221435529238994944

    A real shame. An injury free Del Potro the past few years would have been great to have on tour to challenge the big 3. Even with his injuries, he still gave them a good run for their money at times.


  • #137
    whiterebel
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    This is absolute nonsense to be honest. He's a dick, not a "character". There's nothing hypocritical, as your post implies, about calling out a dick for being a dick.

    Nobody was crying out for a loudmouth brat who isn't prepared to put the work in alongside his marvellous talent to turn up on the tour, were they?

    Connors, Nastase, McEnroe and a lot more were dicks or characters depending on whether you’re a fan or not. Verdasco is supposed to be dick, and it showed when he was horrible to the ball kid. Again, Fed admits to being an embarrassment to his parents when he was younger. He turned out ok.


  • #138
    elmolesto
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    Some very interesting matchups tonight on the men’s side:

    Medvedev - Wawrinka
    This should be very interesting and can easily be a 5 sets
    thriller. I’ll be rooting for the Swiss.

    Nadal - Kyrgios
    I hope Nadal will win without too much trouble but I can see a very close match here with a few tie-breaks. Kyrgios has a shot at taking out Nadal, playing conditions ( very low temp ) should play in favour of the Australian.

    Rublev - Zverev
    The first time I believe Sascha is in the 4th round without dropping a set, Rublev is the hot player of 2020 with 2 titles. Rublev and his huge forehand should win here.

    Monfils - Thiem
    I’d like Monfils to win but I think Thiem should easily put the Frenchman away.


  • #139
    Hector Savage
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    Heres what will happen

    Nadal 3 - 0 Kryios ... BORING!!!!!


  • #140
    elmolesto
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Heres what will happen

    Nadal 3 - 0 Kryios ... BORING!!!!!

    Kyrgios just won the second set. Now, we have a match.


  • #141
    josip
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Heres what will happen

    Nadal 3 - 0 Kryios ... BORING!!!!!


    Any more predictions from that crystal ball of yours Hector?


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  • #142
    Hector Savage
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    omg, Just saw Medvedev beaten by Wavrinka!!!

    Total joke this new talent is.
    Now we know what will happen, Wavrinka will do Nadal a massive favour and beat Djok (he always does) and of course lose 3-0 in the final v Rafa.


    The circus continues ....


  • #143
    Hector Savage
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    oops seems Wavrinka is on Nadals half of the draw .... haha is my face red or what ???


  • #144
    Hector Savage
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    and thats it for Kryios ...

    And for everyone else ....

    AO2020 winner Nadal.


  • #145
    EagererBeaver
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    Great match so far.


  • #146
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    Quality match alright.

    Will take some effort to get back into a winning position now for Kyrgios against Nadal- would be a new departure for him.


  • #147
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    That hill is now a mountain.


  • #148
    Hector Savage
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    total joke, Nadal stronger than he's ever been at 34 ... yeah ... sure....

    When will the media start asking questions I wonder ?
    I mean when this guy is still winning the French Open at 50, will they still be saying - he's just too good for the newcomers or will they start being honest?


  • #149
    Floppybits
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    Kyrgios being shown up here for not doing the required conditioning training to be able to compete in these 5 set matches.


  • #150
    Hector Savage
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    Floppybits wrote: »
    Kyrgios being shown up here for not doing the required conditioning training to be able to compete in these 5 set matches.

    in fairness to him it's hard to compete with someone who is obviously on something ...


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  • #151
    josip
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    Kyrgios breaks back, set still alive.


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