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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Casati wrote: »
    I think it’s expensive - with discounts available two years ago that could have been bought for less than 35k. The price jumped a lot last year with changes to the VRT really hurting this model.

    Nice car all the same but not worth 30k

    I didn't realise they could be got that cheap in 2018. I remember test driving a manual one and the garage in Limerick was asking 38k for it!
    Also Pierse motors in Tipp had an estate 2017 manual with more miles up last month for 28k and it sold in a number of days, so this is not bad value in my book anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    An 18 month old Cupra DSG can be €32-34k, a year old DSG (the blue one that was/available with 2019 spec) is €37k with digital dash, rear camera and sunroof standard.

    18 month manual for €30k? Not too bad? I'd consider one of they had ACC, they're a nice car. If I really can't find a GTI I'll likely end up in one. I'd be looking for 2019 spec though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    An 18 month old Cupra DSG can be €32-34k, a year old DSG (the blue one that was/available with 2019 spec) is €37k with digital dash, rear camera and sunroof standard.

    18 month manual for €30k? Not too bad?

    The ad says manual but the pics look as is if it's DSG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    The ad says manual but the pics look as is if it's DSG.

    I think that's a fair price for an 18 month old DSG Cupra. I'm surprised as how much they depreciate as there's an obvious demand for them, McCoy's get quite a few of them and they sell quick, whether is a 3 year old model, a 1 year old or even new. See more of them than GTI PP.

    I'd consider a 2019 spec if they had ACC like the UK does. Might even have to consider losing ACC if I can't find a GTI PP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I think that's a fair price for an 18 month old DSG Cupra. I'm surprised as how much they depreciate as there's an obvious demand for them, McCoy's get quite a few of them and they sell quick, whether is a 3 year old model, a 1 year old or even new. See more of them than GTI PP.

    I'd consider a 2019 spec if they had ACC like the UK does. Might even have to consider losing ACC if I can't find a GTI PP.

    I agree I think they are good value and they always sell very quickly.


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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They don't have the AWD do they?

    I think the estate version is AWD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I think that's a fair price for an 18 month old DSG Cupra. I'm surprised as how much they depreciate as there's an obvious demand for them, McCoy's get quite a few of them and they sell quick, whether is a 3 year old model, a 1 year old or even new. See more of them than GTI PP.

    I'd consider a 2019 spec if they had ACC like the UK does. Might even have to consider losing ACC if I can't find a GTI PP.

    It’s a manual though, at least that what the add says.

    List new was 36k, add In 1500 for Met and delivery and take off 4K discount which was available at the time and it was 33.5k new


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,539 ✭✭✭✭bazz26




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭eljono




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Casati wrote: »
    It’s a manual though, at least that what the add says.

    List new was 36k, add In 1500 for Met and delivery and take off 4K discount which was available at the time and it was 33.5k new

    That's what grinds my gears with second hand prices of Cupras. Dealers price these cars according how much new one costs now after price increase. Not how much these costed back then. It was 36k car back then and 40k car now.
    So it looks now that in lost so much value compared to new, where in reality that car never costed 40k+-+, but it looks now like a good value.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Casati wrote: »
    It’s a manual though, at least that what the add says.

    List new was 36k, add In 1500 for Met and delivery and take off 4K discount which was available at the time and it was 33.5k new

    It's not a manual, look at the gear stick. My ex-demo Cupra would have been 48k list (but who pays that)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    It's not a manual, look at the gear stick.

    I mentioned this earlier but he chose to ignore me:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    That's what grinds my gears with second hand prices of Cupras. Dealers price these cars according how much new one costs now after price increase. Not how much these costed back then. It was 36k car back then and 40k car now.
    So it looks now that in lost so much value compared to new, where in reality that car never costed 40k+-+, but it looks now like a good value.

    They price them are what people will pay. If the price of a new one dropped by 10k so would 2nd hand ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I'm very sure the Cupra was €40k in 2018/19, possibly even late 2017. They're €41,5k now plus metallic and delivery. Second hand prices are pretty firm but they always offered me a decent trade-in. They were selling some new pre-reg ones with €3-4k discount.

    That said, still a lot of car for 30k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I'm very sure the Cupra was €40k in 2018/19, possibly even late 2017. They're €41,5k now plus metallic and delivery. Second hand prices are pretty firm but they always offered me a decent trade-in. They were selling some new pre-reg ones with €3-4k discount.

    That said, still a lot of car for 30k.

    My PCP runs out in May, so my plan is to find a Leon Cupra for around 30k in Feb/March. If that Leon is dsg, then it's right up my alley then.
    Would love an estate more though.
    It was 2017 when they were still 36k. It was 2018 when they went up to 40k. Right now they have 2k off brand new Leon's with 0%. The demo 192 for 36k, does not look like good value when you have 2.9% apr PCP on it. Might as well go brand new.

    I always keep an eye on Cupras and they keep their value very well. Any Leon Cupra that is sold by dealer disappears very fast, the private sold ones, not so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,427 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    bazz26 wrote: »

    I'm going to have to stop following this thread. It's all too sweet shop like for me. The Cupra's are epic too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    I agree, Cupras are epic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    My PCP runs out in May, so my plan is to find a Leon Cupra for around 30k in Feb/March. If that Leon is dsg, then it's right up my alley then.
    Would love an estate more though.
    It was 2017 when they were still 36k. It was 2018 when they went up to 40k. Right now they have 2k off brand new Leon's with 0%. The demo 192 for 36k, does not look like good value when you have 2.9% apr PCP on it. Might as well go brand new.

    I always keep an eye on Cupras and they keep their value very well. Any Leon Cupra that is sold by dealer disappears very fast, the private sold ones, not so much.

    https://m.carzone.ie/car-reviews/SEAT/Leon-ST-CUPRA/2018/601

    They were still from 36k in 2018.

    I remember pricing an ST Cupra and getting it under 35k inc some essential extras - heated seats and nav. I had a worry about resale in my head I bought a 41k Superb Sportline TDI which I’m finding hard to sell now at 26k!

    They are great cars but few sold since they went over 40k but the rarity has kept pricing high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Casati wrote: »
    https://m.carzone.ie/car-reviews/SEAT/Leon-ST-CUPRA/2018/601

    They were still from 36k in 2018.

    I remember pricing an ST Cupra and getting it under 35k inc some essential extras - heated seats and nav. I had a worry about resale in my head I bought a 41k Superb Sportline TDI which I’m finding hard to sell now at 26k!

    They are great cars but few sold since they went over 40k but the rarity has kept pricing high.

    It just they were and are still really good value. Cupra come with a lot of standard equipment, wheres with something like golf it was always more expensive, and where ever you look at it was an extra.
    Now it's just personal opinion, but I find Cupra a way better looking car. It is a bit more stealthy too. I could get golf now too, but I want Cupra.
    Who knew, Seat kept value better then anything else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Ionised


    If anyone is looking for a Cupra in July my 172 dsg with acc will be traded then. Currently has 23k on it so probably 27 by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Ionised wrote: »
    If anyone is looking for a Cupra in July my 172 dsg with acc will be traded then. Currently has 23k on it so probably 27 by then.

    I'd possibly be interested in. Estate or hatchback?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭maddness


    Ionised wrote: »
    If anyone is looking for a Cupra in July my 172 dsg with acc will be traded then. Currently has 23k on it so probably 27 by then.

    What are they like on Petrol?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Ionised


    My Cupra is the hatch. Metallic grey.
    Fuel wise its averaged 9.4l/100km over the last 2 and a bit years. Most of that has been city driving. Just back from 1500km trip around the UK and it averaged 7.7l/100km on that journey.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Augeo wrote: »
    I think the estate version is AWD

    No not all of them. It’ll say 4Drive on the rear if it is. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    The manual version of the Cupra ST is FWD and the DSG version is AWD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    One thing I like about the Cupra is how subtle it looks. The Leon is a bit round and more boring than a Golf. Of the few Leons around, they blend in a bit better with the FR spec. Same LEDs, similar wheels and both have exhausts out the back.

    GTI front end is aggressive and recognisable and even with the R-Line there's some noticeable differences with the R. No exhaust, different lights, smaller wheels etc.
    SaintsYB wrote: »
    The manual version of the Cupra ST is FWD and the DSG version is AWD.

    The Cupra ST DSG is still FWD, 4Drive isn't standard. I've seen a few ST's for sale and only one or two of them were 4Drive. I drove an ST last year, if it was AWD I would have launched it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    The Cupra ST DSG is still FWD, 4Drive isn't standard. I've seen a few ST's for sale and only one or two of them were 4Drive. I drove an ST last year, if it was AWD I would have launched it :)

    Oh, I could have sworn it came as standard on the DSG model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    SaintsYB wrote: »
    Oh, I could have sworn it came as standard on the DSG model.

    I think it depends on the market, I think Autogefühl had one that was AWD as standard for the German market.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Ionised wrote: »
    If anyone is looking for a Cupra in July my 172 dsg with acc will be traded then. Currently has 23k on it so probably 27 by then.

    Sounds like a nice car , what are you replacing it with?


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