The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

hooch-85

In Eco mode on the motorway it has a coasting function so its supposed to use less fuel.

Muppet Man

hooch-85 wrote: »

In Eco mode on the motorway it has a coasting function so its supposed to use less fuel.

Yip, correct, but makes no difference if on cruise control - it won’t coast - so a little bit pointless. I found it to only coast if am driving the car and take my foot off the accelerator.

But I was more referring to the concept of having an eco mode at all in a car that was designed to purely go quick. As clarkson once said about the M5 - why bother having M buttons on the steering wheel. Why not just give me all the available power all the time. But I digress.

tossy

hooch-85 wrote: »

In the GTi/GTD switches driver mode between Eco/Normal/Sport/Individual.
In the R switches driver mode between Eco/Normal/Race/Individual.

The individual mode lets you alter the settings like throttle response, steering feel etc. Without the DCC it obviously doesn't alter the suspension.

Race mode in the R opens the valves in the exhaust. Not much difference between Normal and Sport in the GTD anyway, improved throttle response and the soundaktor gets louder, which reminds me i think i'll get it coded out in the R.

Oh i know all that , was just wondering what was adjusted with the different modes in a car with No DCC. Soundaktor was one of the first things i coded out, they get loose over time and vibrate sound awful.

theintern

theintern wrote: »

Jesus I should have known that. It sounded wrong in my head as he said it but I didn't clock it. Sounds like a fob off of the highest order.

I'll push again on it. I don't mind paying for it. He even mentioned that it'd be an extra 1.5 hours labour to do it on top of the thermostat, which if it's coming out anyway is nonsense.



Cheers lads. Will let you know how it goes.

Followed up on this and got someone who realised that the GTI doesn't have a timing belt...


Basically they're going to do the thermostat and water pump both on Monday. Thermostat covered under warranty, and I'll pay for the water pump. He mentioned the water pump costing about 80 euro, and some 'toothed belt' attached to it costing 18, that they're going to order anyway and see if it's needed.



Will report back on how it goes. I'm assuming it's just the guy answering the phone that's getting confused about things, and the mechanic will be well able to work it out when he gets going.

DaveyDave

Jesus the rear wiper really is easy to replace. Just a button. Why can't all wipers be that easy? None of this arsing about with clips and trying to get it behind a hook etc. €12 well spent.

tossy

DaveyDave wrote: »

Jesus the rear wiper really is easy to replace. Just a button. Why can't all wipers be that easy? None of this arsing about with clips and trying to get it behind a hook etc. €12 well spent.

Front wipers are the same, replaced two just today.

Toyotafanboi

theintern wrote: »

Followed up on this and got someone who realised that the GTI doesn't have a timing belt...


Basically they're going to do the thermostat and water pump both on Monday. Thermostat covered under warranty, and I'll pay for the water pump. He mentioned the water pump costing about 80 euro, and some 'toothed belt' attached to it costing 18, that they're going to order anyway and see if it's needed.



Will report back on how it goes. I'm assuming it's just the guy answering the phone that's getting confused about things, and the mechanic will be well able to work it out when he gets going.

That's a result, sounds good!

Muppet Man

Muppet Man wrote: »

Yip, correct, but makes no difference if on cruise control - it won’t coast - so a little bit pointless. I found it to only coast if am driving the car and take my foot off the accelerator.

But I was more referring to the concept of having an eco mode at all in a car that was designed to purely go quick. As clarkson once said about the M5 - why bother having M buttons on the steering wheel. Why not just give me all the available power all the time. But I digress.

I don’t get this outlook really. Most of these types of car spend most of their time commuting, going to the shops etc where you want a relaxed drive and as good a fuel economy as possible. I think having options to change mode is a good thing, they probably just don’t do enough in the likes of an R. More drastic alterations to the car to improve economy in eco mode would be welcomed by many (didn’t vw have something for dropping a cylinder for extra economy or did I image that).

I’ve a friend who had an M5 and I dove it a good bit too. It would be a pain in the hole driving it in M mode all the time. Great fun for a blast obviously but just hard work if you are just commuting to work (throttle too sensitive, gear changes too severe, seat bolsters moving every time you corner etc etc.

theintern

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

I don’t get this outlook really. Most of these types of car spend most of their time commuting, going to the shops etc where you want a relaxed drive and as good a fuel economy as possible. I think having options to change mode is a good thing, they probably just don’t do enough in the likes of an R. More drastic alterations to the car to improve economy in eco mode would be welcomed by many (didn’t vw have something for dropping a cylinder for extra economy or did I image that).

I’ve a friend who had an M5 and I dove it a good bit too. It would be a pain in the hole driving it in M mode all the time. Great fun for a blast obviously but just hard work if you are just commuting to work (throttle too sensitive, gear changes too severe, seat bolsters moving every time you corner etc etc.

This is bang on. More options are a good thing. That said, I've never ever had my GTI in Eco. It usually lives in Individual (basically Sport with Soundaktor in Eco), or if I'm showing it off to someone who doesn't know what the soundaktor is, it goes into Sport for the extra noise :D

easyvision

Finally a GTD goes up for sale, auto like I want 181, but seems overpriced.....€34k with a trade in from an independent? Id barely want to be paying that in a VW dealership. 30k seems more realistic.... low mileage but I'd be paranoid about after sales

https://www.ndmotors.ie/car-details/2472372/

Wailin

You'd still have the remainder of the VW warranty so I wouldn't be too worried about after sales. It is overpriced definitely.

easyvision

Wailin wrote: »

You'd still have the remainder of the VW warranty so I wouldn't be too worried about after sales. It is overpriced definitely.

Ah yes I never thought of that. Independent, would think 30k max maybe even 29. Maybe they'll reduce it, or I might just PCP a new model 1.5 .....

Just thought tho, from UK.. so would Irish dealers honour a UK Vehicle

bazz26

Silly money for that.

easyvision

bazz26 wrote: »

Silly money for that.

100% value will plummet in 6 months prob.

Toyotafanboi

Wailin wrote: »

You'd still have the remainder of the VW warranty so I wouldn't be too worried about after sales. It is overpriced definitely.

That looks like a UK car, if so it's pretty much out of warranty over here as the third year of cover doesn't carry over.

bazz26

If you live close enough to the boarder then an NI VW dealer will honor the 3rd year. If you live down the country then it's not much good to you especially if the car is not driving at the time.

OP if you said your considering PCPing a new model 1.5 petrol then surely a proper GTI is worth looking at instead of a GTD?

CIP4

You would get a GTI same year from a VW garage for that price and probably less. That GTD is mad money. The running cost on a GTD vs. GTI really aren't as big a difference as you would think.

easyvision

CIP4 wrote: »

You would get a GTI same year from a VW garage for that price and probably less. That GTD is mad money. The running cost on a GTD vs. GTI really aren't as big a difference as you would think.

Yes but insurance would be a lot extra for me and also €200 a year more tax and then 10c a litre more and prob ably 15mpg less? All adds up over time. On a side note I hit a fox yesterday on way to work out of nowhere and now the ACC doesn’t work at all. Thought maybe sensor dirty or something, got it washed and same thing this morning.... expensive fix does anyone know?? cheers

Toyotafanboi

Generally 2.5 hours labour to calibrate the sensor, if you hit a fox I'd say it's fairly likely it's out of calibration, it doesn't take much to upset them in fairness. Sometimes the bracket for the sensor breaks too if they've had a knock, the bracket isn't too bad it's around €30, the sensor itself is around €1k so hopefully that's fine!

easyvision

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Generally 2.5 hours labour to calibrate the sensor, if you hit a fox I'd say it's fairly likely it's out of calibration, it doesn't take much to upset them in fairness. Sometimes the bracket for the sensor breaks too if they've had a knock, the bracket isn't too bad it's around €30, the sensor itself is around €1k so hopefully that's fine!

Ah well it’s the sensors broke I’m not paying to get it fixed!

CIP4

easyvision wrote: »

Yes but insurance would be a lot extra for me and also €200 a year more tax and then 10c a litre more and prob ably 15mpg less? All adds up over time. On a side note I hit a fox yesterday on way to work out of nowhere and now the ACC doesn’t work at all. Thought maybe sensor dirty or something, got it washed and same thing this morning.... expensive fix does anyone know?? cheers

Did you see George Dalton has a 172 GTD in for 27K seems a lot more reasonable.

easyvision

CIP4 wrote: »

Did you see George Dalton has a 172 GTD in for 27K seems a lot more reasonable.

Just looked there. Looking for auto unfort! Anyone know if I’d have to go to VW dealership for the sensor calibration or any mechanic?

Max Q

easyvision wrote: »

Just looked there. Looking for auto unfort! Anyone know if I’d have to go to VW dealership for the sensor calibration or any mechanic?

I think you'll need to go to VW as it's a special rig they have to use to recalibrate it. It's ultra sensitive, it took them 2 visits to get mine sorted. Their first attempt threw up an ACC error on the way home from the dealership despite appearing to be fixed!

easyvision

Max Q wrote: »

I think you'll need to go to VW as it's a special rig they have to use to recalibrate it. It's ultra sensitive, it took them 2 visits to get mine sorted. Their first attempt threw up an ACC error on the way home from the dealership despite appearing to be fixed!

Ah ok. It’s prob 150 for them to look at it and then 100 or more for Labour I want rid of this thing now. Too many things to be done to it, tyres service, ACC, no air con (broke) . Rather spend my money on a car with everything working

Toyotafanboi

Ah stop, sure any car will need servicing and tyres and to be fair, any car can hit a fox too.

The radar calibration gear is available independently but I wouldn't say many have it. Even a lot of dealers dont have it. I think the calibration kit is like €12k ish and you already need a good 4 wheel alignment system to use it with.

drunkmonkey

I'm still not getting this has to be a DSG thing based on the type of driving you said earlier, what car are you coming from that has you convinced manuals are so hard to drive especially performance ones.
That car I assume has radar controlled cruise control which completely cuts down on the amount of gear changes if you want.
Have you spent a day driving one, I don't take you have.

easyvision

I do a mix of motorway and city driving, but more motorway. Just sick of changing gears. Ive driven auto Q5 for 2 weeks in Oz 2018 and 2016 X5 for few days in LA and just loved the auto and ease. Drink a coffee and accelerate at same time thru the gears was amazing. Yes I am that lazy!! Also test driven auto GTD twice but numbers didnt add up and one was north ad the paying off finance here and then having to apply for a new loan was just going to be awkward. I want to walk in, they sort it all and I drive away. I wan the height of convenience really and not having to change gears a thousand times while driving around is worth a few k to me

drunkmonkey

You keep dodging the question, what do you drive now that's convinced you a performance golf with a manual box and distance controlled cruise control won't do.

easyvision

a Golf GTD 2015. Ie I like what I have but I want a change

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You keep dodging the question, what do you drive now that's convinced you a performance golf with a manual box and distance controlled cruise control won't do.

Why have you such an issue with people liking dsg? Similar to the poster I can only see positives in moving to dsg in a performance golf from both driving it for fun and driving it for day to day commuting etc. My current mk5 will be my last manual, I will be keeping it though regardless of what I buy next.

My wife’s car is a superb combi and as much as I tried to convince her she wanted manual (it was impossible to find dsg ones anyway I reckon if I got her to test drive one she would have gone for it) so I’m used to driving with ACC and I find it would massively benefit from automatic as I like to drive with ACC all the time and it’s gets tiresome on N roads having to change up and down rather than just letting the car do it all bar steering.