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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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  • #9572
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Does that sort of stuff end at the end of Jan or the end of 2020?

    the sooner the better hopefully. good riddance to them.


  • #9573
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Does that sort of stuff end at the end of Jan or the end of 2020?

    End of 2020, depending on the nature of the deal struck, if any.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #9574
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Does that sort of stuff end at the end of Jan or the end of 2020?

    Probably not


  • #9575
    RobMc59
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Em... I can avail of any EU consulate which makes much more sense. The Brits can only avail of British consulates. As I said, the British passport is soon to be inferior. Blue and French-made, but inferior.

    If France can supply the new passports at a more competitive price its common sense to purchase from there and there's the added bonus it probably really annoys people like mark francois. :D


  • #9576
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Probably an exaggeration to say everybody likes us but I have seen attitudes change when I tell people I am irish and not english. And change remarkably for the better.

    Yes, that's what I meant. It's anecdotal, but it's a lifetime of anecdotal evidence that I'm sure many will back up. That, "oh, you're Irish", with a noticeable brightening of tone when they realise you're not a Brit.


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  • #9577
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Probably an exaggeration to say everybody likes us but I have seen attitudes change when I tell people I am irish and not english. And change remarkably for the better.

    I tell you who does love the Irish and are strangely obsessed with them to the point of it being almost weird.
    The Irish


  • #9578
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Anything that annoys the likes of Francois is never not a good thing.


  • #9579
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    davedanon wrote: »
    Yes, that's what I meant. It's anecdotal, but it's a lifetime of anecdotal evidence that I'm sure many will back up. That, "oh, you're Irish", with a noticeable brightening of tone when they realise you're not a Brit.

    Because they think they have insulted you and are trying to make amends. It happens to me fairly regularly, often followed up by a story about how much they love their time in London or wherever.


  • #9580
    timetogo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    Aegir wrote: »
    Because they think they have insulted you and are trying to make amends. It happens to me fairly regularly, often followed up by a story about how much they love their time in London or wherever.

    Was this a dream you had?


  • #9581
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Was this a dream you had?

    what a fantastically well composed and thought out response.

    Bravo sir.


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  • #9582
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Aegir wrote: »
    I tell you who does love the Irish and are strangely obsessed with them to the point of it being almost weird.
    The Irish

    It's a massive insecurity thing. I am sure UK media just deliberately refer to Irish people as british because they know the meltdowns that will happen and the increased traffic to the articles.

    Surely John Cleese knew what he was doing the other day on twitter. Top trolling but it is a bit to easy.


  • #9583
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Aegir wrote: »
    Because they think they have insulted you and are trying to make amends. It happens to me fairly regularly, often followed up by a story about how much they love their time in London or wherever.

    They know the british gave the greatest gift of all to the planet........the modern world.


  • #9584
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    They know the british gave the greatest gift of all to the planet........the modern world.

    in exchange for robbing all the natural resources they could get their hands on and leaving countries in poverty. how very benevolent of them. you must be very proud.


  • #9585
    theological
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭theological


    Aegir wrote: »
    Snide? Hello mr pot, meet mr kettle :rolleyes:

    I thought it was fairly obvious. the only difference is travel in europe, which would not have made any difference to you anyway, unless you were thinking about giving up your Irish citizenship and passport anyway.

    Outside of europe, a British passport would be far more useful than an Irish one, if you need consular services.

    And it isn't really travel in Europe because visa free travel will continue. It will be rights to live in other European countries indefinitely that will be harder but the British people voted for this.

    Meanwhile in Europe we have farmers protesting that farming in Europe is increasingly unprofitable. Why? The combined forces of increasing regulation such as the prohibition of pesticides to protect insects, fertilizer and manure without any means of protecting the bottom line of farmers being offered.

    There's been protests in Ireland, The Netherlands, Germany and France and possibly more countries. Another example of badly introduced legislation created at a huge distance from the people it actually affects on a day to day basis.

    Federating policy decisions like this just seems to be an example of how the EU is over reaching.


  • #9586
    SantaCruz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭SantaCruz


    Aegir wrote: »
    and if you urgently need consular assistance in Bangalore or Hong Kong, would you rather rely on the Irish or British consular services?
    How many Irish folks are banged up in Iran and elsewhere on spying charges?


  • #9587
    SantaCruz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭SantaCruz


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    They know the british gave the greatest gift of all to the planet........the modern world.
    What bilge.

    Seriously. Ahistorical bilge. Have you ever read a book?


  • #9588
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    SantaCruz wrote: »
    How many Irish folks are banged up in Iran and elsewhere on spying charges?

    When Mossad agents are travelling under Irish passports, you know you're doing something right :D


  • #9589
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    LOL, everyone here bad mouthing the British are no doubt neck deep in British culture - soccer, TV, Movies, celebrity, consumables, food - everything. It is unbelievably hypocritical to slag them off, they are an amazing bunch of lads. Yes they have a troubled history but so do we what with our blind eye to child rape etc.


  • #9590
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    LBC talking about the claimed brexit exodus has actually turned out to in an influx.

    This is the start of it, Post Brexit Britain will boom.


  • #9591
    timetogo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    LOL, everyone here bad mouthing the British are no doubt neck deep in British culture - soccer, TV, Movies, celebrity, consumables, food - everything. It is unbelievably hypocritical to slag them off, they are an amazing bunch of lads. Yes they have a troubled history but so do we what with our blind eye to child rape etc.

    Who's bad mouthing the British? Can we not say a decision is monumentally stupid without you getting defensive.
    If you can argue against Brexit being a stupid decision go ahead.

    We know some Irish people have done terrible things. We don't try to defend them by saying "ah but look what you did when ...". That's a bit childish isn't it.


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  • #9592
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Who's bad mouthing the British? Can we not say a decision is monumentally stupid without you getting defensive.
    If you can argue against Brexit being a stupid decision go ahead.

    We know some Irish people have done terrible things. We don't try to defend them by saying "ah but look what you did when ...". That's a bit childish isn't it.

    There is nothing stupid about Brexit. Project fear has been shown time and time again the hysterical cries of remainers that amount to nothing.


  • #9593
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,859 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    There is nothing stupid about Brexit. Project fear has been shown time and time again the hysterical cries of remainers that amount to nothing.

    Ah you're back! Care to tell us why you cannot access NHS Services because I'm confused as to why you are such a special case that you are not allowed use the services.


  • #9594
    timetogo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    There is nothing stupid about Brexit. Project fear has been shown time and time again the hysterical cries of remainers that amount to nothing.

    Oh come on. How much has Brexit cost so far? How many jobs lost? Are you just trolling now or do you believe what you type?


  • #9595
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Ah you're back! Care to tell us why you cannot access NHS Services because I'm confused as to why you are such a special case that you are not allowed use the services.

    Wut?


  • #9596
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Oh come on. How much has Brexit cost so far? How many jobs lost? Are you just trolling now or do you believe what you type?

    The UK economy must be amazing do so much better then the major EU economies yet also suffering this so called brexit slump


  • #9597
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,345 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    So what's the timeline for these talks then? A year seems optimistic to me there's an awful lot to work out, negotiations like this normally take several years.


  • #9598
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Wut?

    Your claim the you can't access the public health service because you have private health insurance. Been waiting a couple of weeks for evidence to back up your claim.

    Here's your post just in case you forgot

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112129099&postcount=8812

    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Well I don't approve of any healthsystem that I pay from my taxes and still require to have a private health plan. The 7/8/9% of my taxes that goes to maintain a system I don't use should be refunded and I should be given the option to opt out of public health care if I am paying private.

    If people want to stick with the public system it should be a choice. The system here is much worse thne the UK as we have to pay twice but are not allowed to use the public system.


  • #9599
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    LBC talking about the claimed brexit exodus has actually turned out to in an influx.

    This is the start of it, Post Brexit Britain will boom.

    Brexiteers vote for Brexit to throttle immigration.
    Brexiteers use rampant immigration to show that Brexit is working.

    Yep, sounds about right for you Crypto.


  • #9600
    PeadarCo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭PeadarCo


    theological wrote: »

    Meanwhile in Europe we have farmers protesting that farming in Europe is increasingly unprofitable. Why? The combined forces of increasing regulation such as the prohibition of pesticides to protect insects, fertilizer and manure without any means of protecting the bottom line of farmers being offered.

    Federating policy decisions like this just seems to be an example of how the EU is over reaching.

    Only for the EU most farmers would have been out of business long ago. Farmers have received billions in subsidies from the EU. EU tariffs given further protection. Irish farmers cannot compete on cost. Irish farms are relatively small and the wages in Ireland are relatively high. If you look at the US a huge portion of the workers on farms are immigrants. Even within the EU using the UK as an example a big immediate impact of the Brexit vote has been the impact on migrant workers. Farms in the UK have run into issues due to the reduction in seasonal migrant workers arriving in the UK.

    The regulations you talk about are also another protection the EU gives farmers in the EU. The whole chlorinated chicken debate is not academic. If you don't produce to EU specifications you can't sell in the EU. And if there's any suspicion that any amount of illegal product is entering the EU market be prepared for one of the various farming lobby groups to investigate and get imports to the EU banned. The IFA did this a couple of years ago with Argentinian beef.

    To say the EU hasn't protected farmers is rubbish and shows a complete lack of knowledge about the EU. The opposite is the case there hasn't been a group that has been more protected. One of the UKs issues with the EU budget has been the amount spent on subsidising farmers.

    I know some beef farmers are unhappy. However anybody fimilar with farming could have told them decades ago that they would end up in this situation. The intelligent farmers have used the huge amount of EU subsidies to expand/diversify or get out.


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  • #9601
    timetogo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Brexiteers vote for Brexit to throttle immigration.
    Brexiteers use rampant immigration to show that Brexit is working.

    Yep, sounds about right for you Crypto.

    This is about where they shift the argument to EU laws or or trading with timbuktu or sovereignty or anything else that isn't what the point is about.


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