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Club Championships 2019-20

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭gally74


    Should have been red for the kilcoo wing back there. Under Lanes nose too.

    Red and dangerous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Would the hurling snobs ever shut up trying to tell everyone how much better hurling is.. They're nearly worse than the vegans..

    But they are correct in fairness


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Id also argue it was a foot block by corofin goalie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    One of the most nasty cynical displays ive seen from a team at any level, Corofin aren't a dirty team but when the other team is carrying on like Kilcoo are you have a right to defend yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    One of the most nasty cynical displays ive seen from a team at any level, Corofin aren't a dirty team but when the other team is carrying on like Kilcoo are you have a right to defend yourself

    Sign of a great team, Corofin can play it any way you want


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,142 ✭✭✭threeball


    One of the most nasty cynical displays ive seen from a team at any level, Corofin aren't a dirty team but when the other team is carrying on like Kilcoo are you have a right to defend yourself

    Dead right. I wouldn't even shake their hand after that. Mickey Moran should be ashamed to send out a team like that. Filthy bunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    The row at full time actually helped corofin. It woke them up.

    The row worked against kilcoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,142 ✭✭✭threeball


    Steede and Daithi Burke were immense for Corofin. Kept a team that wasn't firing in the game in crucial periods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,500 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    And thats why hurling is currently a much superior spectacle to watch.

    Not true - I suspect you are from the 'never seen a good game of football' - but 'never seen a bad game of hurling' school of thought.

    As I said when the top teams/managers play football and have the nous to vary thier play - football is fantastic. Mayo, have shown it, Kerry have shown it, Dublin have shown it.

    In contrast hurling can lead to a lot of one sided games as below 6/7 teams there is a huge chasm in standard.
    Also by it's very nature hurling can lead to a lot of onesided games due to the amounts of scores in the game.

    After the initial hype over the new hurling system two years ago, it did not work as well last year.

    Also the other problem hurling has is the bias towards' traditional counties' - especially Munster. There is a reluctance to relegate these teams and the rules are manipulated.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Big Ears wrote: »
    I've actually turned it off.
    70 mins of that ****e was enough, I don't care who wins now.

    Same. I normally have a fairly storing stomach for the dour stuff and we can’t complain really, people watch soccer and don’t, but that was as bad as I’ve ever seen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭grbear


    Not quite sure how to analyse that. Corofin had the momentum in the second half and then tried to be too clever and almost lost it.
    Got the momentum again in extra time and stomped Kilcoo into the dirt.

    When they simply play football Corofin are the best club team I've ever seen.

    Kilcoo deserve credit. Horrid game and they played in a cynical way but it worked a lot better than some other teams who thought they could out-football probably the best footballing club side there has ever been. Can't be too hard on a team that chose a better approach even though it'd turn a purists stomach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Knew what I'd see when I logged in here.

    Anti-football and anti-Northern bias.

    It makes me wonder why some of ye even watch football. Actually it seems that some spent more time reading and posting here than actually watching the game.

    That was a cracking game before extra time. Full-blooded, passionate, tactical, result in doubt until the end. Kilcoo gave everything to get back in the second half and had nothing left for extra time.

    Stop moaning. If you want a score every minute go and watch basketball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Not true - I suspect you are from the 'never seen a good game of football' - but 'never seen a bad game of hurling' school of thought.

    As I said when the top teams/managers play football and have the nous to vary thier play - football is fantastic. Mayo, have shown it, Kerry have shown it, Dublin have shown it.

    In contrast hurling can lead to a lot of one sided games as below 6/7 teams there is a huge chasm in standard.
    Also by it's very nature hurling can lead to a lot of onesided games due to the amounts of scores in the game.

    After the initial hype over the new hurling system two years ago, it did not work as well last year.

    Also the other problem hurling has is the bias towards' traditional counties' - especially Munster. There is a reluctance to relegate these teams and the rules are manipulated.

    Ive seen plenty of bad hurling games. A poor game of hurling would have been superior to that ****e though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,500 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    grbear wrote: »
    Not quite sure how to analyse that. Corofin had the momentum in the second half and then tried to be too clever and almost lost it.
    Got the momentum again in extra time and stomped Kilcoo into the dirt.

    When they simply play football Corofin are the best club team I've ever seen.

    Kilcoo deserve credit. Horrid game and they played in a cynical way but it worked a lot better than some other teams who thought they could out-football probably the best footballing club side there has ever been. Can't be too hard on a team that chose a better approach even though it'd turn a purists stomach.

    Good point Kilcoo wouldn't have been in an asses roar of them if they played open football.

    I just looked at it in the last two years Corofin won by 9, 15 and now 8 after extra time.

    They are clearly on the slide ;). People with be watching with interest to see if Joyce can fit them into a Galway side that suits thier style.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    And thats why hurling is currently a much superior spectacle to watch.

    When you can find the ball on screen that is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,500 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ive seen plenty of bad hurling games. A poor game of hurling would have been superior to that ****e though.

    I'm sorry that is just subjective bias stuff. It is just that 'hurling people' are used to bang crash wallop 90 miles an hour stuff.
    Traditional Hurling people do not like variation of pace in a game, tactical changes and so on.
    Traditional Hurling people prefer men to mark thier man - none of this sweeper messing.

    I am well aware of 'hurling people' the said truth is hurling will wane with the insular attitude. Where the hurling snobs rule the roost.
    Dublin are viewed with suspicion in the traditional hurling world - intruders etc.
    It's funny stuff.

    Traditional hurling people are extremely transparent in thier views and mindset.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    And Leo wants those Nordies to join the Republic no thanks after the glorious hurling the last 2 days to be exposed to that muck is so sad Kilcoo have suceeded in dragging Corofin down to their level they could win this which would be a travesty

    What has the border got to do with it? Antrim is a much bigger hurling county than Mayo or Kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    I've never got the "hurling is better than football" or (much less common) "football is better than hurling" arguments.

    They are 2 completely different sports with the only obvious similarities being the GAA and the scoring systems.

    I much prefer football with it's variance of tactical approaches and formations and the fact that most scores tend to be "hard-earned".

    Hurling on the other hand whilst I admire the skills on display the relentless scoring/shot taking ("ball is pucked out breaks loose is picked up and it's over the bar ...etc. ") can for me get a bit samey bordering on boring.

    But that's just me. I'm hardly going to declare football a superior game just because I enjoy it more. Some people love watching ice skating ffs whatever floats your boat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭thesultan


    I'd nearly make the rugby tackle a red. It's horrible to watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    I was only listening to the RTE coverage on the radio and it was plain from the description of the game that it was a pretty poor match with plenty of wides and with frequent off the ball fouling and fighting, particularly in the 2nd half. I really think Brian Carthy and RTE in general need to start calling a spade a spade when it comes to thuggery that sometimes passes for football. It's almost as if they are afraid to criticise the GAA in any way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,797 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I'm sorry that is just subjective bias stuff. It is just that 'hurling people' are used to bang crash wallop 90 miles an hour stuff.

    Football is a contact sport as well, but the way Conor Lane reffed today you would not think some.
    Even for him I found him particularly whistle happy today that left the game very stop start.
    I think that caused a lot of frustration for both teams and lead to a lot of the niggling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    If you think the tackle is clearly defined then you've never played , rec'd or managed. It is an area of constant frustration for all involved. What one person thinks is the opposite of another. This is the reason why you see people losing the rag with inconsistencies.
    Football: The tackle is a skill by which one or more players may dispossess an opponent or frustrate his objective within the Rules of Fair Play. A tackle is aimed at the ball, not the player.
    A tackler may use his body to confront the opponent but deliberate bodily contact such as punching, slapping, arm holding, pushing, tripping, jersey pulling or a full frontal charge is forbidden.
    The only deliberate physical contact allowed is that in the course of
    a Fair Charge one player only with at least one foot on the
    ground , makes a shoulder to shoulder charge on the player
    in possession.

    The tackle is clearly defined. However I'd argue that the definition is very poor - what exactly does the bit where it says that a tacker may use his body to confront an opponent ?

    The most important part of the definition for me is the bit about the tackle is aimed at the ball

    Far too often you see lads tackling the player/making no effort whatsoever to play/win the ball, the ref blows for a foul and a player doesn't seem to have an iota why the ref blew. I'd put a serious amount of this down to terrible coaching. Even at the top level there are some inter-county players who just don't seem to know what is a legitimate tackle/attempt at a tackle. I think the fact that you are not allowed tackle a player unless it's a shoulder and that you have to tackle or attempt to tackle the ball should be given far more emphasis.

    I argue that a staggeringly high percentage of GAA people have never ever read the actual definition but just go by a general jist from watching matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Also the definition of the tackle for hurling is far worse.
    Hurling: Any attempt to dispossess or reduce the advantage of opponent within the Rules of Fair Play. With the exception of the charge (fair), the tackle is aimed at the ball not the player.

    Basically everything is allowed unless it's against the rules.

    The bit about the charge is the shoulder (says a world about whoever drafted this rule that instead of using the universal "shoulder" term they use charge, which most GAA people when they hear it will think of something in possession trying to barge through an opposition player.

    It is no wonder that there is confusion about the definition of what is/isn't a legit tackle in both codes, when the actual definition in the rule-book is so poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    threeball wrote: »
    If you drag them into the dirt they'll match you. They generally don't start it. Kilcoo set out their stall early.


    Did you even watch the match?

    I'd say it was 50:50 although the stats say Corofin committed over double the amount of fouls that Kilcoo did (23-11).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Fair play to ballyhale unreal team, borris had good few bad wides but were never threatening to win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    tanko wrote: »
    Aye, don't suppose you saw Corofin players drag Kilcoo players down using rugby tackles on two or three occasions towards the end of normal time?
    Or Lundys thuggery? Filthy bunch indeed.
    Corofin are a fantastic team but their legacy has been tainted by their behaviour today imo.

    Utter nonsense.
    Kilcoo embarrassed themselves today- I wanted them to win prior to the match because as a neutral you nearly always want the underdogs to win but jeez their carryon was pathetic.

    Lads screaming anti northern bias on here are deluded- that epitomised the stereotypes today- the brawl at full time was pure orchestrated behaviour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    Also the definition of the tackle for hurling is far worse.



    Basically everything is allowed unless it's against the rules.

    The bit about the charge is the shoulder (says a world about whoever drafted this rule that instead of using the universal "shoulder" term they use charge, which most GAA people when they hear it will think of something in possession trying to barge through an opposition player.

    It is no wonder that there is confusion about the definition of what is/isn't a legit tackle in both codes, when the actual definition in the rule-book is so poor.

    Alot of truth in this. I agree that the tackle needs more definition and more so players need to be trained how to tackle within these rules. Not in a million years could a system like VAR work in GAA when nobody knows for sure what the bloody rules are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Utter nonsense.
    Kilcoo embarrassed themselves today- I wanted them to win prior to the match because as a neutral you nearly always want the underdogs to win but jeez their carryon was pathetic.

    Lads screaming anti northern bias on here are deluded- that epitomised the stereotypes today- the brawl at full time was pure orchestrated tramp behaviour

    Cmon gill, corofin were no Angel's either. Twas Lundy that started the tunnel melee which the Garda had to step in and break up. Hit a Kilcoo man with a dirty shoulder running past him down the tunnel. I was at the game and both teams were as cynical as each other.

    https://twitter.com/mossyquinn/status/1218950216675680256?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Utter nonsense.
    Kilcoo embarrassed themselves today- I wanted them to win prior to the match because as a neutral you nearly always want the underdogs to win but jeez their carryon was pathetic.

    Lads screaming anti northern bias on here are deluded- that epitomised the stereotypes today- the brawl at full time was pure orchestrated tramp behaviour
    Give an example of kilcoo being disgraceful?

    Corofin seem to get away with cynical behaviour in every game and it never gets called out by pundits


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Attendance of 25,930 according to the Indo. Up from 17,819 last year

    I would say decision to move finals forward very much justified anyway. That said the great weather was a huge help


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