Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

Geimhreadh · 09-01-2020 06:42PM

kanuseeme wrote: »

Check the cable on the granny charger, the short length from the 3 pin plug to the box. My charger, the wires broke just where they enter the box, its a common enough problem with them.
You could have started charging and the cable moved and stopped .

Another problem could be your extension lead over heating, it will stop charging if it gets hot, thats if your using one, just uncoil it.

You could be on to something there. I ll check the Granny cable when I get home. But i was also using a extension lead with much of it still on the reel.

The plan this evening was to try the chademo and see how that goes.

Then at home park behind the house and plug directly into the outside socket.

Will hopefully have a better update tomorrow.

Grumpypants · 09-01-2020 10:38PM

Just press the charge button and let the engine charge it up fully. It's only a once off but will help narrow down the cause to the plugs.

Even if the battery capacity was dropping the blue bar on the dash would still get to the top.

Only half filling that bar is really weird.

Geimhreadh · 09-01-2020 11:13PM

Fast charging worked a treat.

Have it plugged in at home now to fill the rest of the way.

Checked the Granny cable all looks good.

Guess I ll know for sure in the morning if it was the extension lead I was using.

stimpson · 09-01-2020 11:35PM

Geimhreadh wrote: »

Fast charging worked a treat.

Have it plugged in at home now to fill the rest of the way.

Checked the Granny cable all looks good.

Guess I ll know for sure in the morning if it was the extension lead I was using.

Officially you shouldn’t use an extension lead. Unofficially it is ok if it’s rated Heavy Duty and fully unwound. They can melt if they can’t dissipate heat!

Regarding warranty on U.K. cars from earlier - this was posted on the U.K. Facebook group today:

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV UK

UK owners whose cars were first registered in the first half of 2015: HEADS UP

Your warranty will be expiring soon (unless you've already exceeded 62,500 miles). This includes the battery warranty, which is not 8 years, despite what you might have been told.

(Mitsubishi UK customer service has got this wrong in the past. The official details of manufacturer warranty in the UK are below.)

Anti Corrosion Perforation Warranty: 12 years

Registration Date 1 Oct 2012 – 31 Dec 2014
Mechanical: 3 years (unlimited miles)
EV Components: 5 years or 62,500 miles† including traction battery

Registration Date 1 Jan 2015 – 30 June 2015
Mechanical: 5 years or 62,500 miles†
EV Components: 5 years or 62,500 miles† including traction battery

Registration Date 1 July 2015 on
Mechanical: 5 years or 62,500 miles†
EV Components: 5 years or 62,500 miles†
Traction Battery: 8 years or 100,000 miles†

†—whichever is sooner

Geimhreadh · 10-01-2020 10:46AM

All well this morning. looks like it was the extension cord.

I take it ye guys have a home charger installed
Any recommendation as to which is best?

For now I may park around the back of the house but more that worth the effort, go to work with more than half left in the batteries.

Heated seats and steering were great considering when I turned don the heating to clear the window the guessometer went from 17 to 13 mile ha ha

Also looking at winter tyre as I m on a few back roads, any recommendations there?

Shefwedfan · 10-01-2020 11:21AM

Geimhreadh wrote: »

All well this morning. looks like it was the extension cord.

I take it ye guys have a home charger installed
Any recommendation as to which is best?

For now I may park around the back of the house but more that worth the effort, go to work with more than half left in the batteries.

Heated seats and steering were great considering when I turned don the heating to clear the window the guessometer went from 17 to 13 mile ha ha

Also looking at winter tyre as I m on a few back roads, any recommendations there?

Any charger will do. I have a chargemaster which I picked up cheap and got installed cheap

If you are going via the grant then most companies will charge 1k and you get 600 back. If you plan long term on getting Solar PV then something like zappi will do the job

rolion · 10-01-2020 11:47AM

Geimhreadh wrote: »

All well this morning. looks like it was the extension cord.

I take it ye guys have a home charger installed
Any recommendation as to which is best?

For now I may park around the back of the house but more that worth the effort, go to work with more than half left in the batteries.

Heated seats and steering were great considering when I turned don the heating to clear the window the guessometer went from 17 to 13 mile ha ha

Also looking at winter tyre as I m on a few back roads, any recommendations there?

Great.. panic over..
Now I can go and have my coffee knowing you are well, safe and fully charged ! Poor dealers...

You can program the heating so that every morning you have the windows clean before jumping in the car. And as a bonus, the car will be warm too.

Re charger, depends on your location and budget.
I went with the most expensive one on the market because I am a control freak and I want to see what's happening under the case.
Most of the sellers here are promoting a brand that sells well and they can make a huge profit. Installation is a rip off but that's the land where we live.
Forget about the charger connected to Solar PVs ,you will never use them and / or the small percentage of the diverted electricity.
Shop around and act on feeling / recommendations.
There is a full thread somewhere here, take your time…

When you charge at the public charging points, I advise to stay beside the car.
There are few native converted pure BEVs that likes to wind you up that you have no rights to connect your PHEV to their charging network !
Just watch them fuming and looking at you !

My charger below, showing a lovely battery balancing at the end of the charge.
I guess that applies to all Outlanders..

Enjoy the beauty !

stimpson · 10-01-2020 12:21PM

The new ESB charger seems to be decent. €149 after the grant but it’s untethered so you need a cable too. A friend is getting it installed next week so I’ll keep you posted on the install

https://shop.electricireland.ie/products/install-detail/electric-vehicle-home-charger

I have a Zappi which is complete overkill but I had an electrician doing other work on the house so the net cost to me was €170.

Prepare to see lots of installers charging €500 for half a days work...

Shefwedfan · 10-01-2020 12:50PM

stimpson wrote: »

The new ESB charger seems to be decent. €149 after the grant but it’s untethered so you need a cable too. A friend is getting it installed next week so I’ll keep you posted on the install

https://shop.electricireland.ie/products/install-detail/electric-vehicle-home-charger

I have a Zappi which is complete overkill but I had an electrician doing other work on the house so the net cost to me was €170.

Prepare to see lots of installers charging €500 for half a days work...

I went tethered and it is driving me mad on the Zappi but I have two cars with different connections. I think for a car with the Outlander connection I would not go tethered as long term Type 2 seems to be preferred

slicedpanman · 10-01-2020 12:55PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I went tethered and it is driving me mad on the Zappi but I have two cars with different connections. I think for a car with the Outlander connection I would not go tethered as long term Type 2 seems to be preferred

agree completely. We've 1 charger (untethered) shared between a Leaf and an Outlander - but have locked a cable to the charger. This way we get the convenience of tethered without being stuck with Type 1

stimpson · 10-01-2020 12:59PM

Replacement type 2 cables are available. When I can afford a Model 3 (lol) I'll just replace it.

The idea of having to manhandle a wet cable into the boot on a winter morning fills me with fear.

KCross · 10-01-2020 01:05PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

... as long term Type 2 seems to be preferred

I think Type 2 is mandatory on all new EV's by EU law.

The manufacturer can decide CCS vs CHAdeMO if they like, but they have to use Type 2 since 2018ish.... which was why the Leaf switched to Type 2 with the L40.

Shefwedfan · 10-01-2020 01:25PM

KCross wrote: »

I think Type 2 is mandatory on all new EV's by EU law.

The manufacturer can decide CCS vs CHAdeMO if they like, but they have to use Type 2 since 2018ish.... which was why the Leaf switched to Type 2 with the L40.

I didn't know that :-) so the L40 would have same connection as my eGolf?

KCross · 10-01-2020 01:32PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I didn't know that :-) so the L40 would have same connection as my eGolf?

For AC, yes.

Grumpypants · 10-01-2020 10:12PM

I went with the untethered too. The outlander uses a different connection so if we got a second car or i change i'd need to change the cable each time.

wexford14 · 11-01-2020 05:50PM

Hi all, super thread. Currently shopping for an Outlander PHEV in the UK to take advantage of the low VRT based on the CO2 figures. 15-16 STG plus <€1000 VRT is what I hope to spend, 2016 seems realistic. What in confused about is the various Trim options. There's loads of posts about the different trims which is really helpful.

It's clear the GX4H and GX4Hs version have a higher spec, but then android car play is not available until post 2017 version.

What's not clear is why the inferior JURO spec seems to have android play on the factory head unit in pre 2017 cars?

Anyone know the craic here?

Logic for changing is my commute is 45km each way (up the M7) which is prob average 80-90kmph and I can charge where I park near work if I get there early enough. So commuting largely on EV and then longer journeys I'll suck up the relatively lower MPG.

Any and all advice greatly appreciated.

slicedpanman · 12-01-2020 11:39AM

wexford14 wrote: »

Hi all, super thread. Currently shopping for an Outlander PHEV in the UK to take advantage of the low VRT based on the CO2 figures. 15-16 STG plus <€1000 VRT is what I hope to spend, 2016 seems realistic. What in confused about is the various Trim options. There's loads of posts about the different trims which is really helpful.

It's clear the GX4H and GX4Hs version have a higher spec, but then android car play is not available until post 2017 version.

What's not clear is why the inferior JURO spec seems to have android play on the factory head unit in pre 2017 cars?

Anyone know the craic here?

Logic for changing is my commute is 45km each way (up the M7) which is prob average 80-90kmph and I can charge where I park near work if I get there early enough. So commuting largely on EV and then longer journeys I'll suck up the relatively lower MPG.

Any and all advice greatly appreciated.

Yeah, sorry, I never figured out the story with Android auto on the Outlander models... I did want it - but in the end went with a 4HS and just got a good dock for my phone for Android auto.

45km on motorway? You might only get half of that on electric - depending on how fast you like to go, especially this time of the year.

slicedpanman · 12-01-2020 11:40AM

Boot Liner - anyone know where to pick up a good rubberised/waterproof one? Carrying muddy kids bikes in the boot these days

Vizzy · 12-01-2020 11:56AM

I bought one of these last year for dogs in the boot.

Very satisfied with it. The lip on the fron of it protects your bumper from damage/scratches.
Washable too.

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/MITSUBISHI-OUTLANDER-Car-Boot-Liner-PREMIUM-Mat-Heavy-Duty-100-WATERPROOF/132215468529?hash=item1ec8a7f1f1:g:K9AAAOSw-0xYdUDy

wexford14 · 12-01-2020 05:27PM

slicedpanman wrote: »

Yeah, sorry, I never figured out the story with Android auto on the Outlander models... I did want it - but in the end went with a 4HS and just got a good dock for my phone for Android auto.

45km on motorway? You might only get half of that on electric - depending on how fast you like to go, especially this time of the year.

It'd about 35km on motorway. And it's almost never 120. Stretch from Newbridge to where m9 joins m7 is 120 if you want to and then from there to Dublin you'd be doing well to get 100kmph. Ive found myself competing against myself trying to get my l/100km down all the time.

I can't get a full electric as Im not permanent in work, so my next contract could be anywhere.(the joys of It life) I think a PHEV splits the difference.

Grumpypants · 12-01-2020 05:34PM

slicedpanman wrote: »

Boot Liner - anyone know where to pick up a good rubberised/waterproof one? Carrying muddy kids bikes in the boot these days

I got this, initially i thought it was a bit light but it has been great over the last year. Bikes, dogs, boxes etc all chucked.

€ 18,92 8%OFF | Fit For Mitsubishi Outlander 2013-2019 Rear Trunk Liner Boot Cargo Mat Tray Floor Carpet Mud Kick Protector 2014 2015 2016
https://a.aliexpress.com/DdQwRtk4

Geimhreadh · 16-01-2020 01:10PM

Hey,
Can anyone clarify if the Outlander can charge at 7.3kw or only 3.7kw?

Is it worth getting a 32amp cable is it csan only accept 16amps?

"The 16amp or 32amp, 240v, Mitsubishi Outlander Phev Charging Cable is ideal charging cable for the Mitsubishi Outlander with the ability to charge up to 7.3kw. The cables won't charge faster than the max. charging capacity this car can handle, which is 3.7kw"

ELM327 · 16-01-2020 01:16PM

Geimhreadh wrote: »

Hey,
Can anyone clarify if the Outlander can charge at 7.3kw or only 3.7kw?

Is it worth getting a 32amp cable is it csan only accept 16amps?

"The 16amp or 32amp, 240v, Mitsubishi Outlander Phev Charging Cable is ideal charging cable for the Mitsubishi Outlander with the ability to charge up to 7.3kw. The cables won't charge faster than the max. charging capacity this car can handle, which is 3.7kw"

3.7 max

stimpson · 16-01-2020 02:59PM

I found very little in the price difference so got a 32A. This is the one I have - the coiled green one

https://cablesforcharging.com/product-category/type-2-type-1/

wally79 · 16-01-2020 03:44PM

stimpson wrote: »

I found very little in the price difference so got a 32A. This is the one I have - the coiled green one

https://cablesforcharging.com/product-category/type-2-type-1/

This is something I was wondering about.

Does installing 32A mean you need to install some kind of priority device if you have have for example an electric shower?

Or is that only if you have the power draw of charging a BEV

stimpson · 16-01-2020 03:53PM

wally79 wrote: »

This is something I was wondering about.

Does installing 32A mean you need to install some kind of priority device if you have have for example an electric shower?

Or is that only if you have the power draw of charging a BEV

We are talking cables here, not chargers.

But for a charger you would need a priority switch unless you have a load balancing charger like the Zappi. That senses the total current drawn by the house and reduces it's load if it goes above a preset amount.

I had an electric shower when I got mine installed, and IIRC it drew almost 50A on it's own, so even with a 16A draw from the car it would have been around the 63A limit of the main fuse.

Kevin Forde · 17-01-2020 09:26PM

My Outlander is booked in for an interim service at 60k miles (UK import) in a couple of weeks and I have been asked if I want the battery condition check included, at an extra €170.

Anyone know what this checks and is it necessary at an interim service (I had a major service 6 months ago)?

slicedpanman · 18-01-2020 08:49AM

Kevin Forde wrote: »

My Outlander is booked in for an interim service at 60k miles (UK import) in a couple of weeks and I have been asked if I want the battery condition check included, at an extra €170.

Anyone know what this checks and is it necessary at an interim service (I had a major service 6 months ago)?

I've no idea what checks are done at these services but I'd be interested to know too... I've the 50K miles service due in another 500 miles.

Did not know they charged extra for checking the battery health - seems a bit mad. In general what are people paying the dealers for these services to keep the warranty up?

Shefwedfan · 18-01-2020 09:21AM

slicedpanman wrote: »

I've no idea what checks are done at these services but I'd be interested to know too... I've the 50K miles service due in another 500 miles.

Did not know they charged extra for checking the battery health - seems a bit mad. In general what are people paying the dealers for these services to keep the warranty up?

As far as I know you don’t need to check battery to keep warranty valid

stimpson · 18-01-2020 10:34AM

I’d want to know exactly what they are doing for €170. There are various procedures for the battery and you can even do a diy BMU reset (at your own risk).

If you are in Dublin I can check your battery health with the PHEV Watchdog app. If your health is 90%+ then I wouldn’t bother.

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

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