Why is Guinness always so bad in hotels

the beer revolu wrote: »

Would you find the same agreement on what five pubs sell the best Heineken?
If not, why not?

You might, I don't drink Heineken. I agree with that point though, it's one of the first lines in my post above. Good properly run pubs will take the proper care required to deliver all their drinks to the optimum. To a large extent any differences between these Tier 1 establishments is mostly atmospheric or in the eye of the beholder. For me it's The Palace bar on Fleet St. It may not be quantifiably any better than any other first class establishment but to me it tastes a level above.

Of course there are many 2nd and 3rd and 4th class establishments where the quality of all the beers go down a level each time accordingly, not just the Guinness.

Where we disagree is that you don't see the cultural importance of Guinness over Heineken or Tuborg and put it all down to marketing mumbo jumbo. There is more to it than that for myriad reasons. Whether you like it or not it's the 'National Drink', Guinness only drinkers attribute a near religious reverence to it and that's why the quality of a pint of Guinness is a talking point and the quality of a pint of Tuborg is not. It will be ever thus...

L1011 wrote: »

Wouldn't be particularly much use when the same glass is then used and washed multiple times over the course of the day!






As for the atmosphere element - I have yet to have anyone tell me of somewhere that is otherwise a horrible place to drink that has "good" Guinness let alone entering the exhalted list that are oddly nearly always all Victorian city/town or traditional rural pubs.

This is the thing, it is always the same old pubs that get referenced as having the best Guinness, in Dublin anyway. You could have Arthur Guinness himself running a cocktail bar and you’d have some fella on Instagram giving the Guinness a 5/10 because the taste was a bit too soft and the rings didn’t stick to the glass well enough.

Obviously up until the 50s/60s and Guinness being pasteurised and kegged, the quality could vary a lot from pub to pub. Most of the pubs in Dublin with a great reputation for Guinness – Mulligans, the Palace, Grogans etc have had the same reputation for decades.

I genuinely think the Guinness quality discussion in the pub has survived mainly due to it's ability to generate small talk. All of us repeating the same boring conversation our fathers and grandfathers had with their mates in the pub in the past - an alcohol based version of talking about the weather.

Effects wrote: »

Not to mention how much of an expert Obama is on Guinness.
I've heard he can provide a league table of the best pint in the top 5 pubs in his hometown.

Lucky the pint wasn't pulled by an Eastern European wha

I suppose as well the 'perception' of a great pint adds to the overall 'craic' on a night out.

Augeo wrote: »

............... sinking creamy pints of Guinness, nothing like it

Guinness or Murphy's is definitely the best to get drunk to (always drink responsibly). Great buzz and I am the best craic in the world and everyone's friend- flying form.

Whereas beer/lagers turns me into an asshole and liable to do anything mostly ****ed up ****. Not to mentioned sick as a dog afterwards or even on the night.

odyssey06 wrote: »

But to return to the OP's original question, presumably the Guinness Quality Time might hit pubs every 4 weeks but how often do they hit hotel function rooms I wonder? Or even pub function rooms.

The same rate.

odyssey06 wrote: »

What you like to drink is ultimately a subjective experience, so why not make it more so. I don't just like Guinness but 'good' Guinness. It's as defensible an experience as preferring Guinness to Murphys to X or Y other product / or pub X to pub Y.

My scientific curiosity would be intrigued if someone could do an analysis of pints from a supposed 'good place' v a 'no name' place.

But to return to the OP's original question, presumably the Guinness Quality Time might hit pubs every 4 weeks but how often do they hit hotel function rooms I wonder? Or even pub function rooms.

Post #85.

Drives me mad when some teenagers or mainly young wan is pulling ur pint

These c*nts may as well just do a straight pour cus when they do the 2 part pour they fill the glass up right to the top on the first step

Andrew00 wrote: »

Drives me mad when some teenagers or mainly young wan is pulling ur pint

These c*nts may as well just do a straight pour cus when they do the 2 part pour they fill the glass up right to the top on the first step

Doesnt make any difference.

odyssey06 wrote:

I am still curious so. I have had lovely pints of Kilkenny, and v poor ones. And the reputation of the pub for a good pint or how Victorian it was does not explain it either. Nor does how busy the pub was. Hmm.

We are always looking for a reason why tonight's pint isn't quite the same as the pints last week. We're thinking is it the glass, the lines, the person pouring the pint etc. Sometimes we need to look at ourselves, especially this time of the year when our taste buds are working overtime with all the different food & drink being consumed. Maybe it's ourselves that's a bit off, not the pint.

odyssey06 wrote:

No I have to disagree with that. It might be sometimes what we have just eaten \ drank before affects taste buds, or if you have a cold, but not always. I can tell the difference between wines of different grapes in a blind taste test - or for same bottle, register the taste of different vintages. I can tell when one pint of the same beer is different and Kilkenny differed noticeably.

I actually did say sometimes!

partyguinness wrote: »

You should see it in England. Some Weatherspoons you'll find a young wan who will leave the glass on the tray underneath (not hold it) and just pull the tap from a height while nonchalantly looking around. Often one single pour with just a top up to shorten the head.

The horror!