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Tesla Talk

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  • #242
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Wonder what his deg is


  • #243
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Just an interesting observation from the fleet of Tesloop (taxis) in the US, they have 7 Model S that have averaged about 600k km now, and have batteries that have about 75% capacity left

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #244
    charlieIRL
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    That Tesla is like Triggers brush in Only Fools and Horses!!! :)


  • #245
    thos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭thos


    Interesting analysis on how Autopilot complies with European regulations. It helps explain some of the quirks and differences in Autopilot behaviour here versus some of the expectation on what you typically see from the US.

    Looks like there is no room for Enhanced Summon or FSD until these regs are updated.

    https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-autopilot-europe-restrictions-explained-video/

    The video gets pretty deep!

    In summary:
    - hands off self driving features are limited to <10kmh - so this means Basic Summon (to 6metres only) and AutoPark only.
    - AutoSteer has some regulatory enforced limitations with regard cornering speed and g force.
    - No Auto-Lane change, it needs to be initiated by the drive
    - Driver Initiated Lane Change has some strict timeouts to complete the manoeuvre, and also some pretty strict requirements for distance to drivers behind, much more than faced in the US
    - No room for Enhanced Summon or FSD in the regs as they stand

    The other interesting bit I've noticed with Navigate on Autopilot is it's desire to initially move to the outside lane even when nothing in front in the inside lane, not great lane discipline. It also doesn't allow you to undertake traffic when on Autopilot, which is understandable at speed, but I'm hoping it also has a cut-off on the lower end in heavier traffic.


  • #246
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Looking at this car across the water. Is that right, free supercharging for life?

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201911124290946?advertising-location=at_cars&is-quick-search=TRUE&postcode=LL65%201AA&sort=price-asc&page=1&make=TESLA&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New


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  • #247
    jhegarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,132 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    kceire wrote: »
    Looking at this car across the water. Is that right, free supercharging for life?

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201911124290946?advertising-location=at_cars&is-quick-search=TRUE&postcode=LL65%201AA&sort=price-asc&page=1&make=TESLA&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

    Yes.


  • #248
    kanuseeme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    How to get into your Tesla.... go to 6.30

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAkAJp-HtLI

    https://www.webdoctor.ie/online-prescriptions/#:~:text=Through%20an%20online%20medical%20questionnaire%2C%20face%2Dto%2Dface%20consultation,to%20booking%20a%20video%20consultation. not affiliated, just being helpful.



  • #249
    kanuseeme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    I do not trust this one.

    Tesla Model S (2014)
    E 85 5dr
    73,000 miles

    £18,800

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tesla-Model-S-E-85-5dr/293365330674?hash=item444defb2f2%3Ag%3AzysAAOSw75Bd6vW6&LH_All=1

    https://www.webdoctor.ie/online-prescriptions/#:~:text=Through%20an%20online%20medical%20questionnaire%2C%20face%2Dto%2Dface%20consultation,to%20booking%20a%20video%20consultation. not affiliated, just being helpful.



  • #250
    jhegarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,132 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    kanuseeme wrote: »
    I do not trust this one.

    Tesla Model S (2014)
    E 85 5dr
    73,000 miles

    £18,800

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tesla-Model-S-E-85-5dr/293365330674?hash=item444defb2f2%3Ag%3AzysAAOSw75Bd6vW6&LH_All=1

    The same car is on autotrader for £30,700


  • #251
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    kanuseeme wrote: »
    I do not trust this one.

    Tesla Model S (2014)
    E 85 5dr
    73,000 miles

    £18,800

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tesla-Model-S-E-85-5dr/293365330674?hash=item444defb2f2%3Ag%3AzysAAOSw75Bd6vW6&LH_All=1

    I linked that exact car just above you on AutoTrader for 30k.


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  • #252
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    First UK V3 Supercharger goes live
    CCS only

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/tesla-launches-first-european-v3-superchargers-london


  • #253
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ELM327 wrote: »
    First UK V3 Supercharger goes live
    CCS only

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/tesla-launches-first-european-v3-superchargers-london

    So these V3 superchargers (in Europe) work for all Teslas, but you only get the full 250kW via the CCS cable?

    If so that effectively means Tesla are transitioning to CCS only?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #254
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    So these V3 superchargers (in Europe) work for all Teslas, but you only get the full 250kW via the CCS cable?

    If so that effectively means Tesla are transitioning to CCS only?


    All teslas that have the CCS adapter.
    It means early adopters have to upgrade.

    But.. they won't be able to get the peak speeds anyway.


  • #255
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Which Model S / X can take 250kW (CCS)? Only the ones that come with CCS as standard from the factory? Raven?

    I know all Model 3 with CCS can take 250kW (provided the charger can give 666A, which the 350kW Ionity chargers can't)

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #256
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    Which Model S / X can take 250kW (CCS)? Only the ones that come with CCS as standard from the factory? Raven?

    I know all Model 3 with CCS can take 250kW (provided the charger can give 666A, which the 350kW Ionity chargers can't)


    No S/X can take over 150kW. Even the ravens.
    The 3 can take peak 250kW but realistically it's ~200kW so the 190kW provided by Ionity is a pretty good curve.


    Of course the earlier S cars (see #chargegate) have been throttled back to 100kW so it's irrelevant anyway. Mine has the same issue that most 90 packs have, like Bjorn's X, limited to 95kW.


  • #257
    zep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭zep


    kceire wrote: »
    Looking at this car across the water. Is that right, free supercharging for life?

    Not quite, Tesla updated T&C's earlier this year so they technically can revoke the free supercharging when the car is re-registered.
    There is a chance they will not remove the free super charging when changing ownership, but the are entitled to do so at any stage.


  • #258
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    zep wrote: »
    Not quite, Tesla updated T&C's earlier this year so they technically can revoke the free supercharging when the car is re-registered.
    There is a chance they will not remove the free super charging when changing ownership, but the are entitled to do so at any stage.


    They cannot do this for cars that have in the sales contract "lifetiime transferable free supercharging"


    The T+C is to remove the free supercharging on CPO cars that were originally sold with the above clause. If they've been traded back to Tesla then they remove the free SUC


  • #259
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    The value of free supercharging on a Tesla owned in Ireland is minimal anyway, unless you plan to take it on many continental long distance trips.

    There is the bragging / pub factor though :D

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #260
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes, for the odd supercharge stop going to cork or belfast it's not really needed as a value prop.
    If you bought a new raven model S (like my loaner) you have 500km real world range in the depths of winter. That's Dublin to Galway, Cork, Belfast without charging. And back.

    On this island with over 500km range and 3 phase AC charging you'd never need DC. I have needed DC twice since getting mine, and that's because I was going to Cork without a destination charger.


  • #261
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,507 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Coming from a manufacturing background I find it astonishing that Tesla are now commercial after so little time since breaking ground in China, unreal

    Tesla delivers first batch of China-made cars

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • #262
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,394 ✭✭✭KCross


    slave1 wrote: »
    Coming from a manufacturing background I find it astonishing that Tesla are now commercial after so little time since breaking ground in China, unreal

    Tesla delivers first batch of China-made cars

    It’s a China thing.
    Let’s see how long it takes to get cars out of Giga 4 once they turn a sod on that. I bet it will take a lot longer and cost a lot more.


  • #263
    Creamy Goodness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,449 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    It’s amazing how quickly you can build a factory with low paid labour and a billion of them at it.


  • #264
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Creamy Goodness wrote: »
    It’s amazing how quickly you can build a factory with low paid labour and a billion of them at it.

    Nothing to do with low paid labour and big numbers of people.

    Everything to do with how after a decision has been made at the highest echelons, the importance of this decision has the power to melt all or any obstacles in its way. It is not often in history that an authoritarian regime could get real big things done, quickly. But that's exactly what we have been seeing in the past few decades. The Chinese Miracle.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #265
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    Already producing 1000 cars a week, amazing


  • #266
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    And how in a communist country, some people can afford these cars and others cannot


  • #267
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ELM327 wrote: »
    And how in a communist country, some people can afford these cars and others cannot

    Very different from the last form of communism, where everybody could afford the cars that were being produced, you just had to go on a 30 year waiting list before you were allowed to buy one :D

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #268
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    ELM327 wrote: »
    And how in a communist country, some people can afford these cars and others cannot

    Yeah if you take a passing look at China's economic system, you can't call it communism

    Massive inequality, existence of a market, more billionaires that anywhere in the world


  • #269
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    It's like the complete opposite of the system here, your man who scuppered the Apple data centre in Athlone would have absolutely no say in China. We'd probably also have the full Metro built and Dart Underground running, without having to do endless consultations.


  • #270
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,167 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    liamog wrote: »
    your man who scuppered the Apple data centre in Athlone would have absolutely no say in China.

    In China he'd be in a labour camp making Christmas cards for the west right now :eek:

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • #271
    thos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭thos


    Any S/X owners with EAP getting Smart Summon available to them? I know it's still quite hamstrung, but still a small step forward.


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