Huge increase in rubbish along roads

31-12-2019 02:56PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Trying living near a food outlet of any sort. People are lazy ****ing scumbags,

McDonalds in the mill centre in Clondalkin is a dump for people. They get their food, go park and just **** it out the window.

The missus was walking across the car park the other day and a group of our ethnic nomadic cousins were standing at a car, throwing their empty mcdonalds cups under the cars around them. She had the utter cheek to glance over at them, only to be met with "who the **** does she think shes looking at, we'll throw our cups where we want"

It doesnt take much driving around clondalkin village to see people littering. People just drop it as they go.

I live in the village too. Regularly see people throw rubbish out their car windows. Utter filth and vermin. No enforcement of litter laws though so it will continue to happen.

elperello · 31-12-2019 02:57PM

Fizzlesque wrote: »

True. Somehow I think these people are telling themselves their not littering because the cups are placed, upright on the wall instead of thrown on the ground. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending these people but I have noticed the amount of rubbish has increased since the bins at bus stops were removed.

Those "tidy" litterbugs are nearly the worst. Denial or what?

There is an element of lack of joined up thinking in Local Authorities giving planning permission and collecting rates from f/f outlets at the same time as removing bins.

Ultimately the person littering is to blame but there needs to be some thought put into urban infrastructure as well.

_Kaiser_ · 31-12-2019 03:10PM

elperello wrote: »

You have a good system. The wheelie bin keeps everything tidy until you have a load to go in car.
A lot of people in apartments or duplexes have difficulty controlling who uses the bins.

Where is that compactor at petrol station? I thought they had all been removed. (understand if you don't want to give location).

Yep, it works for me. There's no "pay as you need it" model offered by either local company (nice little arrangement they have between themselves actually), and the idea of spending a fortune in standing and lift charges regardless given my low usage just sits badly with me.

There's still several of these operating in the south of the country and as I'm down that way anyway fairly regularly it's still cheaper to just bring the 4 bags with me every 2 months or so.

listermint · 31-12-2019 03:13PM

I drove by a fully decorated artificial tree dumped at the side of a Wicklow road at 8 am on st Stephens day.

People are scum. They mattress fella on twitter was the epitomy of it and he wasn't a traveller , poor, or some young fella.

Scum come in all shapes.

Sir Oxman · 31-12-2019 03:21PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Trying living near a food outlet of any sort. People are lazy ****ing scumbags,

McDonalds in the mill centre in Clondalkin is a dump for people. They get their food, go park and just **** it out the window.

The missus was walking across the car park the other day and a group of our ethnic nomadic cousins were standing at a car, throwing their empty mcdonalds cups under the cars around them. She had the utter cheek to glance over at them, only to be met with "who the **** does she think shes looking at, we'll throw our cups where we want"

It doesnt take much driving around clondalkin village to see people littering. People just drop it as they go.

I just walked by the big KFC beside Lidl on New Nangor Rd this morning and the piles of rubbish - KFC stuff mainly, empty cans etc) - was staggering.
There is literally mountains of it left by scumbags of all social types.

In the abscence of personal responsibility, KFC should be out cleaning up that sh1t.

pgj2015 · 31-12-2019 03:26PM

you always see supermacs bags and chips etc thrown on the side of the road.

elperello · 31-12-2019 03:31PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Yep, it works for me. There's no "pay as you need it" model offered by either local company (nice little arrangement they have between themselves actually), and the idea of spending a fortune in standing and lift charges regardless given my low usage just sits badly with me.

There's still several of these operating in the south of the country and as I'm down that way anyway fairly regularly it's still cheaper to just bring the 4 bags with me every 2 months or so.

I agree the notion of having a big wheelie bin just to dispose of 1 small bag per week is ridiculous.

I thought those petrol station compactors were all gone. Something to do with the Waste Act and they not offering any recycling facility.
Good to hear some still survive because they can be useful for people with less refuse to dispose of.

elperello · 31-12-2019 03:33PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

you always see supermacs bags and chips etc thrown on the side of the road.

That's the trouble with branded wrapping.
The big outlets get the bad pr for the littering while the local chippers remain anonymous.

Mr_Muffin · 31-12-2019 03:40PM

At least the guy in the video dumping what looks like a Mattress said sorry.

Guy:Incognito · 31-12-2019 03:41PM

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

At least the guy in the video dumping what looks like a Mattress said sorry.

saying sorry because someone caught you doesnt count.

Hes probably done it before and not been caught.

spurious · 31-12-2019 03:41PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

I never understand this. Why not...just leave it in your car and put it in the bin when you get home.

Parenting.

elperello · 31-12-2019 03:44PM

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

At least the guy in the video dumping what looks like a Mattress said sorry.

He was definitely in the wrong and he shouldn't have been fly tipping but mattresses can be hard to get rid of depending what part of the country you live in.

Plus the guy in the van was a bit harsh on him. He wouldn't have been so tough with the verbals if it was couple of hardy lads.

Guy:Incognito · 31-12-2019 03:47PM

elperello wrote: »

He was definitely in the wrong and he shouldn't have been fly tipping but mattresses can be hard to get rid of depending what part of the country you live in.

Plus the guy in the van was a bit harsh on him. He wouldn't have been so tough with the verbals if it was couple of hardy lads.

Bollocks was he harsh on him. Should have given him a boot up the hole.

Mattresses can be hard to get rid of for free, yes. Doesnt matter what part of the country it is , or how far you are from the a dump or recycling centre, heading out and ditching it somewhere isnt acceptable.

maccored · 31-12-2019 03:50PM

surely it would be less expensive for councils to just bring back free bin collections, than spend the millions they're currently pumping into trying to clean up after the scumbags who dump their rubbish on the roads?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 31-12-2019 03:53PM

maccored wrote: »

surely it would be less expensive for councils to just bring back free bin collections, than spend the millions they're currently pumping into trying to clean up after the scumbags who dump their rubbish on the roads?

Unfortunately littering on country roads was every bit as bad back in the free bins era. Some people are just lazy, uncaring dolts.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 31-12-2019 03:54PM

phishcakes wrote: »

Im really surprised incentivised recycling hasn’t been brought into this country on a large scale yet

A lot of other countries are doing this successfully with glass, aluminium cans etc..

There was some talk about bringing in a system for plastic bottles. It’s massive in Germany, a huge success. Bring back any plastic bottle to your supermarket, you can get up to 20 cent for a large one. It’s built into the cost anyway so you are getting it back when you return it.

Lidl, Rewe, they all have the machines as you entered the shop. You could put the money towards your goods bought or donate to charity.

Of course it went nowhere here. Think Denis Naughten said it would cost over 260 million, costs of green recycling would go up, yada yada.

Such bull**** and so shortsighted. In reality it would put the waste recycling companies out of pocket, the ones we pay to recycle, when in other countries, Sweden and Canada, recycling is free.

The number one item I see for discarded waste is plastic bottles, usually throw away by the same mindless shower of kids. Then you have Greta Thurnberg yelling about boomers stealing her childhood

elperello · 31-12-2019 03:55PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Bollocks was he harsh on him. Should have given him a boot up the hole.

Mattresses can be hard to get rid of for free, yes. Doesnt matter what part of the country it is , or how far you are from the a dump or recycling centre, heading out and ditching it somewhere isnt acceptable.

Where I live it's hard to get rid of a mattress not impossible though.
Furthermore around here you don't get any stripes for assaulting old guys.

Thelonious Monk · 31-12-2019 04:01PM

elperello wrote: »

Where I live it's hard to get rid of a mattress not impossible though.
Furthermore around here you don't get any stripes for assaulting old guys.

I would have no problem with anyone dumping in our countryside being assaulted, its f*cking disgusting behaviour

elperello · 31-12-2019 04:18PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I would have no problem with anyone dumping in our countryside being assaulted, its f*cking disgusting behaviour

I think assaulting old guys for littering or any other criminal activity is disgusting behavior.

I said he was wrong to be dumping already.

Guy:Incognito · 31-12-2019 04:28PM

Steyr 556 wrote: »

. In reality it would put the waste recycling companies out of pocket, the ones we pay to recycle, when in other countries, Sweden and Canada, recycling is free.

cant see why it would. The bottles still need to be recycled, youre just changing who collects it.

Guy:Incognito · 31-12-2019 04:29PM

elperello wrote: »

I think assaulting old guys for littering or any other criminal activity is disgusting behavior.

I said he was wrong to be dumping already.

So just young guys? Old scumbags get a pass?

Disagree.

elperello · 31-12-2019 04:34PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

So just young guys? Old scumbags get a pass?

Disagree.

No it was just an old scumbag in this case.

Nobody gets a pass but you have to go through the legal system before you start handing out penalties.

What are you suggesting a kick in the posterior for a mattress, slap in the face for a plastic chair, poke in the eye for a chip bag?

beggars_bush · 31-12-2019 05:53PM

Councils regularly have days you can dispose of a mattress for free.
Or a furniture shop will take them for recycling

listermint · 31-12-2019 06:02PM

elperello wrote: »

Where I live it's hard to get rid of a mattress not impossible though.
Furthermore around here you don't get any stripes for assaulting old guys.

Ballax.

Cut the mattress up throw the material in the bin.

Take the springs to the recycling centre metal bay . It's free.

Making excuses for old people doesn't cut it. He's not old when he's dragging a mattress out of a new Jeep and fecking it ten feet into the bog beside him is he.

knipex · 31-12-2019 06:11PM

elperello wrote: »

Where I live it's hard to get rid of a mattress not impossible though.
Furthermore around here you don't get any stripes for assaulting old guys.

Assault !!! are you mad ?? He was told to cop the ** on, no one threatened him or laid a finger on him..

I can imagine your reaction if I drove up (sorry if an elderly gent) and dumped a mattress in your front lawn..

He got off light..

Doctor Nick · 31-12-2019 06:18PM

A Lane way beside my old workplace was a hot-spot for illegal dumping. The council put up CCTV cameras to catch people in the act then published the photos. I was so shocked at the people doing the dumping. Everybody from young to old, track suit wearing citizens to business men in suits. One which really stood out was a frail old lady, 80's I'd think, with a walking frame.

Needless to say it stopped the dumping for quite some time. I left the job a few months later but never happened again in that time. Maybe something that should be done nationwide.

andekwarhola · 31-12-2019 06:26PM

elperello wrote: »

Where I live it's hard to get rid of a mattress not impossible though.
Furthermore around here you don't get any stripes for assaulting old guys.

Seemed well able to haul a mattress out of a car and throw it away, didn’t he.

And yes, he does want a boot in the hole.

elperello · 31-12-2019 06:31PM

andekwarhola wrote: »

Seemed well able to haul a mattress out of a car and throw it away, didn’t he.

And yes, he does want a boot in the hole.

Still not convinced that citizens assaulting dumpers is any solution to the problem of fly tipping.
Easy to do tough talk on the internet.

elperello · 31-12-2019 06:34PM

listermint wrote: »

Ballax.

But the mattress up throw the material in the bin.

Take the springs to the recycling centre metal bay . It's free.

Making excuses for old people doesn't cut it. He's not old when he's dragging a mattress out of a new Jeep and fecking it ten feet into the big beside him is he.

I already said he was wrong.
Your solution to the mattress disposal makes sense.

elperello · 31-12-2019 06:37PM

knipex wrote: »

Assault !!! are you mad ?? He was told to cop the ** on, no one threatened him or laid a finger on him..

I can imagine your reaction if I drove up (sorry if an elderly gent) and dumped a mattress in your front lawn..

He got off light..

A lot of posters on here are supporting the idea of assaulting him, thats what I was responding to.

You are right I wouldn't be pleased but I don't go around kicking people who don't physically attack me.

Huge increase in rubbish along roads

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