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When did Ireland get so pretentious?

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  • #152
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Millicently wrote: »
    Seriously your New Years resolution should be to get professional help for that chip. I'm not going to read your posts from now on. Bye.

    He’s 100% right.


  • #153
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    blade1 wrote: »
    When Jambons could be bought at petrol stations.

    Ah here.
    Jambons are about as posh as sliced pan.


  • #154
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Ah here.
    Jambons are about as posh as sliced pan.
    Sliced pans??
    Mr fancy pants!!!


  • #155
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Ah here.
    Jambons are about as posh as sliced pan.

    I remember the first night I had a jambon..It was two in the morning outside a nightclub in Galway in 2004/5..Had never seen such a thing..


  • #156
    Millicently
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    It started when I got a stove top espresso pot for my 21st in 1990 - along with a little cup.
    Then one day, my dad bought those croissants in a cardboard tin that you cook at home.
    All went to shlte after that.
    Suddenly supermarkets were selling fresh chillies.
    There was a concerted effort to pull things back in 1995 with the invention of the breakfast roll but it was too late - olives and anchovies had taken hold and werent going to let go. It was all over when sun-dried tomatoes came in 1996.

    Dearbhla and Sinead, that was a very irresponsible gift to buy me. Look what you started!
    Na, I think the rot set in with Neapolitan ice cream, before that it was vanilla ice cream only, a tin of pears or mixed tinned fruit with it on special occasions if you were lucky. We started to get notions then.


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  • #157
    puppieperson1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    Guys its normally the social climbing bitch wife who tends to turn reasonable fellows into **** and aspiring poshheads with 10 bathrooms in the house and his back broken trying to keep up the payments they probably dont even use the bathrooms `and only flash the cash at home at xmas but in reality live horrendous lives trying to keep up with posh pals they have made doing without to pretend they fit in .....sad bit true. let it go over your head and be grateful you can laugh and walk upright with good health. Happy new year we are all different some more than others,


  • #158
    Millicently
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    puppieperson1 wrote: »
    Guys its normally the social climbing bitch wife who tends to turn reasonable fellows into **** and aspiring poshheads with 10 bathrooms in the house and his back broken trying to keep up the payments they probably dont even use the bathrooms `and only flash the cash at home at xmas but in reality live horrendous lives trying to keep up with posh pals they have made doing without to pretend they fit in .....sad bit true.
    Mr Misogyny has entered the room.:D


  • #159
    MayoAreMagic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    Classic West Britism. Not based in any reality but a national self loathing which is ingrained as a result of internalized colonial status. Being self confident in yourself and your nation means that you call out people who are actually programmed to denigrate it for the benefit of foreign interests.

    To be honest, being confident about something would generally mean that you dont have to keep labelling them as that, as it would already be self-evident.
    I dont understand why people label others as west brits instead of just a g*bsh*te or whatever. For starters being a brit of any description these days would generally make someone, in fact, vehemently nationalistic... Has it not occurred to you that your own opinions are far more 'west brit' of late?


  • #160
    NSAman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭NSAman


    puppieperson1 wrote: »
    Guys its normally the social climbing bitch wife who tends to turn reasonable fellows into **** and aspiring poshheads with 10 bathrooms in the house and his back broken trying to keep up the payments they probably dont even use the bathrooms `and only flash the cash at home at xmas but in reality live horrendous lives trying to keep up with posh pals they have made doing without to pretend they fit in .....sad bit true.

    Could it also be that we leave the trappings of being success at the airport and rent a normal car, don’t flash the cash (apart from mammy pressies) can afford the ten bedroomed house and lifestyle, but come home and don’t live horrendous lives?

    I can only speak for myself, but I live and interesting life, which I really enjoy. I have friends in most corners of the world, not just Irish friends. I like the life I have created for myself.

    Yet, I feel sad when leaving Ireland after Christmas. Not because I hate living abroad, not because Ireland is the best place in the world (in my opinion it is certainly up there), not because I feel a reject (which I dont) .. it is simply because I have an elderly parent who I never know if I am going to see them again.


  • #161
    MayoAreMagic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Millicently wrote: »
    Mr Misogyny has entered the room.:D

    Maybe, but he could have a point! One of the few things capable of changing someones outlooks or opinions is the person they have hitched up to and spend most of their time with.


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  • #162
    MayoAreMagic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    NSAman wrote: »
    Could it also be that we leave the trappings of being success at the airport and rent a normal car, don’t flash the cash (apart from mammy pressies) can afford the ten bedroomed house and lifestyle, but come home and don’t live horrendous lives?

    I can only speak for myself, but I live and interesting life, which I really enjoy. I have friends in most corners of the world, not just Irish friends. I like the life I have created for myself.

    Yet, I feel sad when leaving Ireland after Christmas. Not because I hate living abroad, not because Ireland is the best place in the world (in my opinion it is certainly up there), not because I feel a reject (which I dont) .. it is simply because I have an elderly parent who I never know if I am going to see them again.

    Not really sure what point you are making here, relevant to what you responded to. If you dont do as the guy described then it isnt you he was taking issue with...


  • #163
    NSAman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭NSAman


    MayoAreMagic wrote: »
    Not really sure what point you are making here, relevant to what you responded to. If you dont do as the guy described then it isnt you he was taking issue with...

    Point being everyone is different, not everyone is the same. Someone already pointed out the misogyny in the post, I was calling out the other side of the “successful” person living abroad.

    Pretension can be a double sided coin, those that are and those that aren’t who want to be..;)


  • #164
    puppieperson1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    MayoAreMagic wrote: »
    Maybe, but he could have a point! One of the few things capable of changing someones outlooks or opinions is the person they have hitched up to and spend most of their time with.


    Very true ask any divorced dad trying to see his kids at Christmas but he cant cos he doesnt have 10 bathrooms anymore he gave the gaff to her....


  • #165
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Millicently wrote: »
    Mr Misogyny has entered the room.:D

    There is a debate to be had here , is consumerism driven by the ladies or men ; are men more prone to make the purchases which may endanger the economy while the woman may spend on smaller ticket items much more regularly giving the impression of higher consumption .


  • #166
    Ciaranis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Ciaranis


    KWAG2019 wrote:
    No it’s not. It recognizes the insidious and ongoing threat of shoneenism, West Brits, quislings and unionists to the state won in blood and sacrifice 100 years ago. All of that promoted through BOD with his Lambeg, FG with a Minister of Justice upholding the RIC/DMP in the War of Independence and the media and politically correct revisionism of inclusion misapplied to those who oppressed ordinary Irish people. Nationalism is under attack from many sides and some of the posters here are part of it. And we know it.

    KWAG2019 wrote:
    No it’s not. It recognizes the insidious and ongoing threat of shoneenism, West Brits, quislings and unionists to the state won in blood and sacrifice 100 years ago. All of that promoted through BOD with his Lambeg, FG with a Minister of Justice upholding the RIC/DMP in the War of Independence and the media and politically correct revisionism of inclusion misapplied to those who oppressed ordinary Irish people. Nationalism is under attack from many sides and some of the posters here are part of it. And we know it.


    Ya big paranoid weirdo.


  • #167
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    Ciaranis wrote: »
    Ya big paranoid weirdo.

    The innocent will always be with us.


  • #168
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Millicently wrote: »
    Mr Misogyny has entered the room.:D
    I think that poster is actually a woman. Worse again.


  • #169
    Millicently
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    MayoAreMagic wrote: »
    Maybe, but he could have a point! One of the few things capable of changing someones outlooks or opinions is the person they have hitched up to and spend most of their time with.
    I think it depends on the couple really.


  • #170
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Why is it that the past has to be looked at through rose tinted glasses by people who have had no experience or knowledge of it?

    All those things happened in my lifetime, the last laundry only closed in the 1990s.
    Perhaps if people weren't so easily led they might have their "culture". What is it that you are doing to halt this decline, hmm?

    You must have been six months old at the time and you give the impression the laundries were in full swing up to that point. This is a form of stolen valor or “stolen victim hood” in you case. Trying to connect yourself to events which had nothing to do with you or inject yourself into the storyline somehow. Millennials are desperate for doing this, particularly when they talk to people who aren’t from Ireland making out what a tough childhood they had and how “Magdalene laundries we’re still open when I was growing up, life in Ireland was so hard”.

    Most people on here have never met or even come across anyone who was in those institutions and if you have you have you wouldn’t even know it because most likely they are from a different socio economic background that they would look down their noses at them. What you’ve done in the last post by trying to link yourself to industrial homes is extremely insulting to people who had the misfortune of being institutionalised because they didn’t come from the same privileged background as you sitting on your PlayStation telling everyone how hard it was growing up in Ireland.


  • #171
    HBC08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭HBC08


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    its not that they like rugby, its the way they go on about it, they way they dress, talk etc like a poor mans D4 head, I saw one knob driving a convertible to tag rugby, the only thing was it was a micra and about 20 years old, he had his shades on and a jumper around his shoulders:(


    Im not even sure what your issue is..


    The fact hes driving a convertible or that it's an old car or hes wearing sunglasses? or you suspect hes trying to be a d4 head because hes playing rugby?

    You need to ask yourself whos the d1ckhead in this scenario?


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  • #172
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Braelynn Wrong Iron wrote: »
    You must have been six months old at the time and you give the impression the laundries were in full swing up to that point. This is a form of stolen valor or “stolen victim hood” in you case. Trying to connect yourself to events which had nothing to do with you or inject yourself into the storyline somehow. Millennials are desperate for doing this, particularly when they talk to people who aren’t from Ireland making out what a tough childhood they had and how “Magdalene laundries we’re still open when I was growing up, life in Ireland was so hard”.

    Most people on here have never met or even come across anyone who was in those institutions and if you have you have you wouldn’t even know it because most likely they are from a different socio economic background that they would look down their noses at them. What you’ve done in the last post by trying to link yourself to industrial homes is extremely insulting to people who had the misfortune of being institutionalised because they didn’t come from the same privileged background as you sitting on your PlayStation telling everyone how hard it was growing up in Ireland.

    Shut up you tart and crawl back into the hole you came out of. You know **** all about me.

    I don't own a PlayStation btw, maybe you'd like to think I do in your ignorance.


  • #173
    irishgrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Millicently wrote:
    Na, I think the rot set in with Neapolitan ice cream, before that it was vanilla ice cream only, a tin of pears or mixed tinned fruit with it on special occasions if you were lucky. We started to get notions then.


    Following on from this life of thought... I suspect that country getting uppity correlated strongly with the introduction of the soda stream. Once we started getting "busy with the fizzy" we got airs and graces about having access to carbonated drinks whenever we wanted, thus creating a generation of self entitlement, who then went on to reproduce resulting in a bunch of virtue signalling snow flakes...


  • #174
    irishgrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Loving this thread, it's segues flawlessly between breakfast rolls to right wing nationalist nutjobs, to neopolitan ice-cream to "**** you, you ***** ##### ****" to soda streams...


  • #175
    Millicently
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    irishgrover wrote: »
    Following on from this life of thought... I suspect that country getting uppity correlated strongly with the introduction of the soda stream. Once we started getting "busy with the fizzy" we got airs and graces about having access to carbonated drinks whenever we wanted, thus creating a generation of self entitlement, who then went on to reproduce resulting in a bunch of virtue signalling snow flakes...
    You could argue that the chemicals in the Soda Stream somehow made the DNA passed on from the children who drank the stuff to their own children somehow inferior and that the degrading of DNA somehow led to the offspring of the Soda Stream generation to having a weaker backbone and inability to cope with life.


  • #176
    Wompa1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Soda Stream the yoke made in Gaza?...so, logical conclusion, who's to blame for all of this!? Yep, you guessed it....the Palestinians!! :pac:


  • #177
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Shut up you tart and crawl back into the hole you came out of. You know **** all about me.

    I don't own a PlayStation btw, maybe you'd like to think I do in your ignorance.

    So basically everything I said about you was true or very close to the bone and now you’ve got annoyed


  • #178
    Millicently
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    coolshannagh28 wrote: »
    There is a debate to be had here , is consumerism driven by the ladies or men ; are men more prone to make the purchases which may endanger the economy while the woman may spend on smaller ticket items much more regularly giving the impression of higher consumption .
    Do you remember the media coverage of queues of people queuing to by the latest Iphone or whatever the hottest gadget of the year was? You don't see it so much anymore but most of the people queuing for the gadgets were men. I don't think women have as much interest in the latest gadgets as men, but I could be wrong. I couldn't sleep at night if I had massive debt hanging over my head and I certainly wouldn't put that kind of stress on my husband.
    I can understand a lot of men feel angry with the mothers of their children when they separate for not allowing them to see their children as often as they'd like. I don't blame the guys. But in any relationship there are 2 sides to every story and I don't think most couples break up because the men aren't providing a big enough house for the women. Most men wouldn't want to date a single mum because they don't want the baggage of raising another man's kids.


  • #179
    valoren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭valoren


    We all have a drive to want recognition but while there is no issue with or begrudging someone tooting their own horn, if they concurrently look to denigrate others while doing so it is a blatant indication that they are extremely insecure and they lose credibility.


  • #180
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    Millicently wrote: »
    Do you remember the media coverage of queues of people queuing to by the latest Iphone or whatever the hottest gadget of the year was? You don't see it so much anymore but most of the people queuing for the gadgets were men. I don't think women have as much interest in the latest gadgets as men, but I could be wrong. I couldn't sleep at night if I had massive debt hanging over my head and I certainly wouldn't put that kind of stress on my husband.
    I can understand a lot of men feel angry with the mothers of their children when they separate for not allowing them to see their children as often as they'd like. I don't blame the guys. But in any relationship there are 2 sides to every story and I don't think most couples break up because the men aren't providing a big enough house for the women. Most men wouldn't want to date a single mum because they don't want the baggage of raising another man's kids.

    Nonsense. This is not a men’s rights thread ffs.


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  • #181
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Those aren't just an Irish thing, and while that's wanky I still prefer today's wide variety of foods and drinks to back in the days when this country was in really serious economic trouble. So much so that the emigration was at crazy levels.

    The crisps reference was a joke but wanky for sure.


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