When did Ireland get so pretentious?

Jonybgud · 28-12-2019 03:11PM

Braelynn Wrong Iron wrote: »

Difficult to when the conversation is a pissing contest about who paid the most for their house.

OK, at least now you know you've outgrown those people, move on.

James Brown · 28-12-2019 03:22PM

I blame the Celtic Tiger. People start bragging about how expensive their house was. Not everyone but there was a rise in it.
The common tax payer thought they were wealthy because the media and government told them they were.

I think RTE, the Sunday independent and politicians are ultimately responsible.
Rich people trying to relate to the average person badly.

This is peak though...

s7ryf3925pivug · 28-12-2019 03:25PM

pretentious?

moi?

KWAG2019 · 28-12-2019 03:25PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

A lot of credit fuelled pretentiousness. Something happened during the Celtic tiger that has changed the Irish psyche. A lot of people would walk over each other at the smell of a banknote.

I think that’s a part of human nature maybe amplified by our impoverished status for so long. The gombeen is nothing new to Irish society. The willingness of some people to sell out their neighbors friends countrymen for British money is also well documented: the RUC trying to get into a Garda station to offer 5000 to someone to tout is well known. And the number of touts bought and paid for on both sides of the Northern troubles and it tells you about the power of the banknote.

the beer revolu · 28-12-2019 03:33PM

I've found that people who refer to other people as pretentious are usually gobshltes.

KWAG2019 · 28-12-2019 03:33PM

irishgrover wrote: »

I live in the arsehole of nowhere in Galway...not only is my family big rugby heads, but also my kids play protestant camogie.... clearly our spiritual home must be D4 but sure that's just a dream, as we speak like culchies

You seem to have said more than you realise.

Raconteuse · 28-12-2019 03:45PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I blame the Celtic Tiger. People start bragging about how expensive their house was. Not everyone but there was a rise in it.
The common tax payer thought they were wealthy because the media and government told them they were.

I think RTE, the Sunday independent and politicians are ultimately responsible.
Rich people trying to relate to the average person badly.

This is peak though...

Those aren't just an Irish thing, and while that's wanky I still prefer today's wide variety of foods and drinks to back in the days when this country was in really serious economic trouble. So much so that the emigration was at crazy levels.

Edgware · 28-12-2019 03:49PM

LeBash wrote: »

I remember when we switched from tea to coffee. You might be too young for that.

Or when we moved from dilutable Mi Wadi to Fanta. Such pretensiousness

Shefwedfan · 28-12-2019 03:54PM

con___manx1 wrote: »

I disagree. I have a really good friend who is mid 30ths that has changed his accent over the last few years and has become more pretencious.
It only happened when this friend got an uppty job so he is probly trying to fit in with the other pretencious people that work in this place.

Oh look at me I can programme stuff. I'm so much better than everyone : )

I get what the op is saying.
I have lost respect for this friend to be honest because I really can't stand pretencious people.

Not better than everyone but maybe better than you ?

I doubt he cares if you have lost respect for him...He has all that money and lovely new friends who also make loads of money..... :-)

Shefwedfan · 28-12-2019 03:55PM

Edgware wrote: »

Or when we moved from dilutable Mi Wadi to Fanta. Such pretensiousness

Whatever happened to the days of cidona in the pub?

Yamanoto · 28-12-2019 03:57PM

sk8erboii wrote: »

The sooner youre realize that youre the obnoxious and off putting loser the sooner you can grow too

More than a touch of pot & kettle here me lad. You're posts tend to leave an acrid miasma about the place, like your the red baron turd-gas bombing us from above

28-12-2019 03:58PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Whatever happened to the days of cidona in the pub?

Bubble up.

I Am The Law · 28-12-2019 03:59PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

2.14pm on August 29, 1997

Could have sworn it was the 28th.

28-12-2019 04:06PM

It's when chinesse restaurants became Asian Street Fusions. Kilkenny has three for Christ sake. Now don't get me wrong I enjoy a Mama Mee Goreng and Coconut water as much as the next person....

28-12-2019 04:21PM

Deleted User wrote:

I think it happened around 2000. OP might be too young to remember when we switched from coffee to lattes.

It was a good few years before that. We switched from toasted sambo to paninis around 1995. By 2000 we were already halfway up our own behinds

andekwarhola · 28-12-2019 04:30PM

Show me on the doll where the bold group wouldn't listen to your Oz sesh tales.

ArnoldJRimmer · 28-12-2019 04:44PM

Am I the only returning emigrant at Christmas who rarely, if ever, meets these types, or encounters these kinds of situations?

Generally, arrange to meet friends, have a hug, a few pints. They tell me about their lives whether its marriage, new kids, new job, a nice holiday they had, the loss of a parent. Then I give them a similar update on my life. Whatever significant events happened since we last saw each other. Maybe then a quick trip down memory lane, and talking about people we haven't seen in years. Another few pints, another hug, a promise to catch up next year, and let them know they're welcome to visit me any time.

28-12-2019 04:47PM

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Am I the only returning emigrant at Christmas who rarely, if ever, meets these types, or encounters these kinds of situations?

Generally, arrange to meet friends, have a hug, a few pints. They tell me about their lives whether its marriage, new kids, new job, a nice holiday they had, the loss of a parent. Then I give them a similar update on my life. Whatever significant events happened since we last saw each other. Maybe then a quick trip down memory lane, and talking about people we haven't seen in years. Another few pints, another hug, a promise to catch up next year, and let them know they're welcome to visit me any time.

Most of them expect the red carpet out once they grace the plebs with their presence.

frosty123 · 28-12-2019 05:02PM

Ever since the celtic tiger mid 90s....we're slowly turning into protestants

Millicently · 28-12-2019 05:34PM

irishgrover wrote: »

I live in the arsehole of nowhere in Galway....not only is my family big rugby heads, but also my kids play protestant camogie.... clearly our spiritual home must be D4 but sure that's just a dream, as we speak like culchies

Funny you should mention Protestants, I was chatting with my mum the other day about how I find the seats in Protestant churches far more comfortable than in Catholic churches. She told me that when she was a child her best friends were the family next door who were Protestants who used to take her to their parties where she'd get food like she never got at home(my mum's family were poor) Anyway, apparently my granny didn't like it and referred to them as 'black protestants' even though they were white, presumably a bigger dig and insult. I like watching rugby, I have neighbours who are ordinary working class lads who play rugby, I've no idea what their politics is, and I don't really care.

whisky_galore · 28-12-2019 05:35PM

frosty123 wrote: »

Ever since the celtic tiger mid 90s....we're slowly turning into protestants

Ever compare a proddy church to one of those lavish RC churches?

Now that's OTT pretentiousness.

coolshannagh28 · 28-12-2019 05:41PM

Millicently wrote: »

Funny you should mention Protestants, I was chatting with my mum the other day about how I find the seats in Protestant churches far more comfortable than in Catholic churches. She told me that when she was a child her best friends were the family next door who were Protestants who used to take her to their parties where she'd get food like she never got at home(my mum's family were poor) Anyway, apparently my granny didn't like it and referred to them as 'black protestants' even though they were white, presumably a bigger dig and insult. I like watching rugby, I have neighbours who are ordinary working class lads who play rugby, I've no idea what their politics is, and I don't really care.

The "black" you refer to above relates to membership of the Royal Black Preceptory an institution similar to the Orange Order , once perceived as more contentious by Catholics but now more conciliatory .

completedit · 28-12-2019 05:42PM

There's always a link to the past, the past is as much a part of you as today or tomorrow. It's all connected. Growth is good but if someone completely dismisses their past self, it delays a lot about them. Ops scenario sounds extreme but if you don't keep fond memories of the past, what have you got? I'm not happy about everything about my past self. I was quite ugly, my personality wasn't how I would have wanted and I was a bit of a loner but it forced me to be who i am today. I embrace it

If speaking with a posh accent constitutes as a growth then Jesus Christ. People take themselves very seriously.

Millicently · 28-12-2019 05:45PM

coolshannagh28 wrote: »

The "black" you refer to above relates to membership of the Royal Black Preceptory an institution similar to the Orange Order , once perceived as more contentious by Catholics but now more conciliatory .

That's interesting to know.

Millicently · 28-12-2019 05:47PM

completedit wrote: »

There's always a link to the past, the past is as much a part of you as today or tomorrow. It's all connected. Growth is good but if someone completely dismisses their past self, it delays a lot about them. Ops scenario sounds extreme but if you don't keep fond memories of the past, what have you got? I'm not happy about everything about my past self. I was quite ugly, my personality wasn't how I would have wanted and I was a bit of a loner but it forced me to be who i am today. I embrace it

If speaking with a posh accent constitutes as a growth then Jesus Christ. People take themselves very seriously.

Yep. I'm amazed at the number of people I was at school with who now use the Irish version of their names. Nothing wrong with it, funny how it never occurred to them to do it until the boom years though.

28-12-2019 05:48PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

It was a good few years before that. We switched from toasted sambo to paninis around 1995. By 2000 we were already halfway up our own behinds

The mid-nineties a local coffee shop and bakery that for years sold tea, coffee, and something called a milky coffee suddenly one day the milky coffee became a latte.

28-12-2019 06:03PM

This often happens with people that live abroad for a few years. They return home only to find they don’t really fit in anymore. Things change here while you’re away. It’s the honest truth.

You don’t just move away and slot right back in.
Your friendships and relationships here kind of die off when you move away.

28-12-2019 06:17PM

Met a fella home from New Zealand last night, humble bragging about how much he is earning, what a great job he has, how well he is doing.

It comes across as insecure rather than impressive.

prunudo · 28-12-2019 06:26PM

I get what the op is saying, its not just people who've been abroad though. I've noticed with some people, the more they progress in their given profession the more detached they become from regular joe soaps. Bad and rude attitudes to waiting, bar or shop staff because they perceive themselves to be better and more successful than them even though they would have done similar jobs when they were younger while at college.
Turns out they're just not very nice people and you're better off without them in your life.

The White Wolf · 28-12-2019 06:31PM

Makes me wonder why you even went to the effort. Maybe next time you'll be happy to hang on your jack.

When did Ireland get so pretentious?

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