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Costa Del Sol Tragedy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,833 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Mod

    A poster made a comment in bad taste, they then retracted it on thread. The initial comment was quoted multiple times.

    I have deleted multiple posts referring to it.

    If you are aware of the post - no more reference to it.

    If you are not - same applies.

    A tragedy happened here, have some compassion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Pools don't have any suction. They overflow into a drain which feeds the pump through the filters, and is then pumped back to the pool, normally via jets in the wall. There is nothing in the pool to get sucked into. There is only a drain at the lowest point for the purpose of emptying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,565 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    It would be in very bad taste if the mother is looking to now claim they were all Olympic Swimmers in a bid to somehow make money off the back of the deaths, Nigerians love their scams but this is crazy if that's what she is doing.


  • Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It would be in very bad taste if the mother is looking to now claim they were all Olympic Swimmers in a bid to somehow make money off the back of the deaths, Nigerians love their scams but this is crazy if that's what she is doing.

    What the hell is wrong with some people here. That's a blatantly racist thing to write. WTF like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Oh just lock it ta fcuk …..

    Some peoples phone and keyboards should be taken off them !! (kids on hols?)
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    What a ****ing mess!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,565 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    JayZeus wrote: »
    What the hell is wrong with some people here. That's a blatantly racist thing to write. WTF like.


    If you look at World Corruption Index you'll find Nigeria right there, you'd find many mainstream News Media showing the index, from BBC, to Forbes Magazine. It's only facts, and I'm saying if that is what is going on then it's pretty dam crazy.

    But we've seen child killers play the hero, the ones front and center leading the search for missing kids, so it would not be a shock to see that now the mother is suddenly saying they were all Olympic Swimmers.

    Im not saying it's what is happening here, I'm just saying it would not come as a shock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Silly Gilly


    It would be in very bad taste if the mother is looking to now claim they were all Olympic Swimmers in a bid to somehow make money off the back of the deaths, Nigerians love their scams but this is crazy if that's what she is doing.

    I knew you were a çunt when you made those comments about Sean Cox. Thanks for proving it yet again. You horrible, horrible individual. What has gone so wrong in your life that this is what you do for entertainment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Fair play to BTBW - saw all the upset over the previous comment yet still decided to post the same thing with more extreme elements added to it. What a bad-ass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭SaintLeibowitz


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Where did she say they're Olympic swimmers?

    She didn't. The poster made it up, to give him a reason to have a go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Must be a slow day over in the “Current Affairs” forum.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Weltsmertz


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Fair play to BTBW - saw all the upset over the previous comment yet still decided to post the same thing with more extreme elements added to it. What a bad-ass.

    The SJWs are so easy to wind up though. Had to be tempting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    If you look at World Corruption Index you'll find Nigeria right there, you'd find many mainstream News Media showing the index, from BBC, to Forbes Magazine. It's only facts, and I'm saying if that is what is going on then it's pretty dam crazy.

    But we've seen child killers play the hero, the ones front and center leading the search for missing kids, so it would not be a shock to see that now the mother is suddenly saying they were all Olympic Swimmers.

    Im not saying it's what is happening here, I'm just saying it would not come as a shock.

    The fact the thought even occurred says more about you.

    At least the last poster realised their comments were out of order and retracted. You’re just doubling down.

    No doubt I’ll be called a snowflake or SJW something. I’m out of this train wreck so fire away.

    Condolences to all involved.


  • Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weltsmertz wrote: »
    The SJWs are so easy to wind up though. Had to be tempting.

    Yeah, tempting for someone to try to score points on a thread about a mother who has just lost her husband and two children.

    Utter scumbag stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    right....

    Im out... this is just gonna clog my notifications,... "Unfollow" …
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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weltsmertz wrote: »
    The SJWs are so easy to wind up though. Had to be tempting.

    You're setting the bar extremely low if you think people being disgusted at digs aimed at someone who's lost everyone they love is just sjws being triggered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    If you look at World Corruption Index you'll find Nigeria right there, you'd find many mainstream News Media showing the index, from BBC, to Forbes Magazine. It's only facts, and I'm saying if that is what is going on then it's pretty dam crazy.

    But we've seen child killers play the hero, the ones front and center leading the search for missing kids, so it would not be a shock to see that now the mother is suddenly saying they were all Olympic Swimmers.

    Im not saying it's what is happening here, I'm just saying it would not come as a shock.
    - Nobody is denying the high level of corruption and scam artistry unfortunately prevalent in Nigeria

    - The mother didn't say they're Olympic swimmers (you look stupid when you keep saying that)

    - Of course it would be a shock if it turned out that the woman killed her family or didn't kill them but made up a story about their deaths to cash in, even though she's Nigerian

    - You know all of the above and are just out to be controversial; it's a bit loopy really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Weltsmertz


    Candie wrote: »
    You're setting the bar extremely low if you think people being disgusted at digs aimed at someone who's lost everyone they love is just sjws being triggered.

    Thing is though there are tragedys and disasters happening all the time, all over the world. And of course there is racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia etc etc etc.

    If you spend your life getting offended and outraged of behalf of others that you don't know because of comments on discussion forums then you will spend your life permanently offended and outraged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    SJW is such an inane term. It's supposed to refer to those very easily upset folks who e.g. insist on a load of genders. That's not social justice (which is stuff like ending segregation) so it's a stupid phrase in the first place. But it gets used for anything at all, which is stupider again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    People who react to posts that are obviously provocative are worse than the initial poster IMV. Giving oxygen to stirrers.

    I think it was a tragic accident myself. Doesn’t make it easier though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    It's a horrible tragedy to happen to any family especially at Christmas. There seems to be a lot of confusion about the accident. The first reports were that they couldn't swim but it doesn't seem that way as the wife says they could all swim and that they did go swimming. The initial reports were that the wife and another child were in the apartment when in happened. But the wife claims that they were all together at the pool, that they could all swim and that she and the child who survived ran for help. She says that her husband went down the steps to help their drowning children, which to be honest I find a bit strange, surely as a parent you'd jump in without thinking?



    The 16 year old son was traveling on an American passport and I'd have thought that as a Pastor, Christmas being the high point of the Christian year, that he'd have been back home with his congregation. They also seem to have struggled to get anyone back home in Britain to comment on the family. All seems a bit strange, but they have my deepest sympathy, it's not something that should ever happen to anyone.


  • Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weltsmertz wrote: »
    Thing is though there are tragedys and disasters happening all the time, all over the world. And of course there is racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia etc etc etc.

    If you spend your life getting offended and outraged of behalf of others that you don't know because of comments on discussion forums then you will spend your life permanently offended and outraged.

    It's not about spending your life getting offended. It's about common decency. It really is as black and white as that, something you might be able to appreciate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,700 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Weltsmertz wrote: »
    If you spend your life getting offended and outraged of behalf of others that you don't know because of comments on discussion forums then you will spend your life permanently offended and outraged.

    Its not being permanently offended to point out a racist making a racist comment, or a scumbag using the death of a family to make a snide comment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Who's "spending their life" doing whatever that person said?

    Trampoline needed for all the wild leaps.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weltsmertz wrote: »
    Thing is though there are tragedys and disasters happening all the time, all over the world. And of course there is racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia etc etc etc.

    If you spend your life getting offended and outraged of behalf of others that you don't know because of comments on discussion forums then you will spend your life permanently offended and outraged.

    Nobody 'spends their life' like that. As you know.

    Outrage is another dismissive term applied to anyone who even mildly objects to anything. Nobody is in a state of outrage. People just called out some nasty comments.

    It's not me that lacks perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    My dad is a hydro-engineer, he tests pool pumping and filter systems all over the world.
    He told me that a large number of pools in Hotel settings are a liability and are better to be avoided. It starts from sloppy building causing injuries from slipping to pump covers coming loose to bad filter maintenance causing harmful bacterial growth.

    According to him such tragedies are unsurprising because there aren't enough engineers for testing and ensuring proper maintenance, signing off on hotel pools is a joke (he had to attend a few dozens of injury and negligence cases as expert witness ) and management doesn't give a sh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Spleerbun


    I'd imagine that despite what the mother says, the reality is that they could 'not' swim. Can't see how not one but 3 people who can swim could drown in a pool. One maybe if they hit their head or something and were knocked out. 3 in the ocean, it's possible. 3 in a swimming pool? Can't see how that would be possible at all tbh.

    I also can't think of a "defect" in a pool that could make you drown, without reading the whole thread have there been any theories on what that might be (hypothetically)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    LirW wrote: »
    My dad is a hydro-engineer, he tests pool pumping and filter systems all over the world.
    He told me that a large number of pools in Hotel settings are a liability and are better to be avoided. It starts from sloppy building causing injuries from slipping to pump covers coming loose to bad filter maintenance causing harmful bacterial growth.

    According to him such tragedies are unsurprising because there aren't enough engineers for testing and ensuring proper maintenance, signing off on hotel pools is a joke (he had to attend a few dozens of injury and negligence cases as expert witness ) and management doesn't give a sh1t.

    Would he have seen anything like what is being described here, people being pulled into the deep end?

    I jumped into a pool in Spain around January before, it was a nice enough day, by Irish standards, but the pool wasn’t heated and it was extremely cold. I got straight out and did not go back in.

    Could the temperature of the pool been a factor? I saw earlier someone say it wasn’t heated.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    I don't know where the family are from originally, but there have been quite a few tragedies over the years where people from landlocked countries have drowned because they didn't know about tides or they thought they'd be OK in the water. People who aren't used to swimming shouldn't be in an unsupervised pool or swimming in the sea or whatever, but people are human and we make silly mistakes or overestimate our abilities. Whatever happened, it's a tragic waste of life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Spleerbun wrote: »
    I also can't think of a "defect" in a pool that could make you drown, without reading the whole thread have there been any theories on what that might be (hypothetically)?

    Some other cases were referred to where faulty pumps created an undercurrent so that a person who was in an already compromised situation at the bottom of the pool could not get back to the surface as they normally would.

    More likely that the father got overwhelmed and the children pulled him under, or he got a cold water shock.

    Very sad either way. I can't begin to imagine how the mother and the daughter are feeling now.


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