Costa Del Sol Tragedy

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Hi there,

Just saw the news that all 3 family members could swim. How is this possible? Could a pump suck you in?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50929536

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

The pool was examined and found to be in good working order. It sounds like the family may have overestimated their swimming capabilities. Just a tragic accident.

starbaby2003

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Hi there,

Just saw the news that all 3 family members could swim. How is this possible? Could a pump suck you in?

A person drowning will cling on to you and pull you under. That is why people are taught a specific way to rescue someone. I have no idea what happened in this case but it is certainly possible that they drowned each other accidentally.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Hi there,

Just saw the news that all 3 family members could swim. How is this possible? Could a pump suck you in?

Earlier reports all stated that none of them could swim.

If none of them could swim then they were liable for their own deaths as they shouldn’t have been in the pool with out flotation aids etc

suicide_circus

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

You picked that up wrong. None of them could swim.

the wife/mother is claiming they could all swim and some malfunction with the pool caused them to be dragged out to the deep end and pulled under the surface and drowned. the police are saying there is nothing wring with the pool.

suicide_circus

Nigzcurran wrote: »

Or maybe she’s just devastated at losing her family and understandably looking for someone to blame as most people would do I’m sure, especially if they could all swim, she’ll more than likely accept it as the tragic accident it is when some time has passed

yes probably

suicide_circus

JayZeus wrote: »

I think it takes a certain kind of person to jump to such conclusions about a grieving mother and wife, trying to make sense of her immense loss.

i'm a bad man

That poor family. How horrific.

No lifeguard at a hotel pool is the concerning bit for me. They said they didn't need one because the pool was small?? It had a deep end. It was hardly a paddling pool and even in a paddling pool a child could get into difficulty easily. There should have been a lifeguard.

Discodog

I wouldn't read much into the local authorities testing the pool. I don't think they were sucked down but I wonder if the child could of got it's foot stuck in a vent.

Weltsmertz

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That poor family. How horrific.

No lifeguard at a hotel pool is the concerning bit for me. They said they didn't need one because the pool was small?? It had a deep end. It was hardly a paddling pool and even in a paddling pool a child could get into difficulty easily. There should have been a lifeguard.

No requirement for a lifeguard in pool that size. This is very strange. Assumed that it was the suction from the pump that was faulty and that had pulled them under. But seems that was not the case. Three people drowning in a hotel pool is very peculiar. Particularly if as the wife claimed they could swim. And why would father and brother go into to deep end if they couldn't?

anewme

God love them, what an awful tragedy.

Homelander

It seems most likely that it was a panic drowning, someone who couldn't swim or was suffering some sort of issue, likely dragged others down who could swim. This happens quite a lot.

CPTM

I wonder if there was adequate life-saving equipment surrounding the pool. I don't if that's a requirement for all businesses with swimming pools/access to lakes etc.

Hamsterchops

My initial reading into this tragedy was drowning, due to one or more of the family not being able to swim! Then there was reports that they could swim, but that the police had taken the electric pool pump away for inspection...the plot thickens.

Some suggested they were electrocuted by faulty wiring in the pump, others suggested that they were sucked down under the water by the faulty pump, yet the latest reports take us back to square one (my initial reading) that at least one member of the family couldn't swim properly, or maybe not at all?

Sounds like the girl got into difficulty, then the older brother tried to rescue her, followed by the Dad (who couldn't swim)???

Nothing official yet.

Weltsmertz

Homelander wrote: »

It seems most likely that it was a panic drowning, someone who couldn't swim or was suffering some sort of issue, likely dragged others down who could swim. This happens quite a lot.

Possibly. Seems unlikely the young daughter would be strong enough but maybe the father or brother had a panic attack while rescuing her. Mother said they could swim but maybe one of them had a fear of water and only went in because daughter was in difficulty.
So that would have been two people in difficulty and they could have dragged the third under.

Tzardine

I dont believe that there was anything wrong with the pool. It seems like it was just a tragic incident where 3 people that could not swim (or were at best poor swimmers) got into difficulty in the water.

The family were black from what I understand. I read a medical journal article claiming that black humans are less buoyant than European whites. That sounds crazy to me. I wonder if it is true. Not suggesting that this has anything to do with this tragedy, but I found it interesting none the less.

Journal Article
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/%28SICI%291520-6300%281997%299%3A1%3C87%3A%3AAID-AJHB11%3E3.0.CO%3B2-V

upupup

The pool was cold and the only one that was unheated.
cold water shock is probable

Guy:Incognito

Hamsterchops wrote: »

My initial reading into this tragedy was drowning, due to one or more of the family not being able to swim! Then there was reports that they could swim, but that the police had taken the electric pool pump away for inspection...the plot thickens.

Some suggested they were electrocuted by faulty wiring in the pump, others suggested that they were sucked down under the water by the faulty pump, yet the latest reports take us back to square one (my initial reading) that at least one member of the family couldn't swim properly, or maybe not at all?

Sounds like the girl got into difficulty, then the older brother tried to rescue her, followed by the Dad (who couldn't swim)???

Nothing official yet.

I highly doubt a pool pump would be powerful enough to sick 3 people in. It's not a turbine in a dam.

ebbsy

Or something else happened ?????

A2LUE42

The pool looks tiny. The fact that the father got in via the steps suggests to me that he couldn't swim, or was not comfortable with water. It should have been possible to reach the kids with a sun lounger or something else. I have seen large adults be pushed under water by small children who have panicked. This looks like a terrible tragedy. It should have been easily prevented, but that is easy to say with hindsight. It should serve as a warning to everyone on the dangers of water and how proper swim lessons and basic life saving are a life skill that everyone should have.

suicide_circus

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

I agree with you, for what it’s worth. Foolish comment but it’s out there now. Own it, apologize and move on. You don’t need to close your account.

thanks. i'd invite all those who have made, perhaps accurate, unfavourable assessments of my character to put me on ignore. problem solved.

Spanish Eyes

Would there have been an issue with the pool chemicals? Although you would think any toxic gases would disperse in an open air pool.

Desperately sad, but I’m thinking tragic incident.

Collie D

Horrible thing to happen. Poor mother must be inconsolable.

sReq | uTeK

Very sad. Poor poor family.

Gynoid

Jesus Christ people do love a self righteous pile on. The poster apologised for an ill judged remark, we all make varying degrees of same the odd time. These pile ons make me squirm with their sanctimony.

Poor family. Poor woman. Unbearable for her what has happened. Cold water shock is very possible and deadly. We are abroad and the pool is not heated and my big lummoxes have been lepping in by times for the craic (briefly!)- I must have warned them a million times so far about cold water shock.

EmmetSpiceland

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

You don’t need to close your account.

I don’t think that’s your call, let the mob decide.

greenspurs

and equally as ridiculous as the SuicideCircus comment are all the amateur Poirots and Miss Marples trying to make their guess as to what went wrong !!

Boards is turning into an echo chamber of …

Sees incident on media, starts thread on boards....

Person see thread on Boards, has to comment - Negatively/Positively.? Mainly negative.

Get outraged by the thread - must start argument

Gets outraged by seeing people outraged - must reply angrily ….

Sees outraged reply, to initial outraged response, gets more outrage...

Anger is an energy - SJW jumps on board, and gets offended on behalf of the person/persons/thing that has been negatively commented about.

Thread meanders along, with the same blah-blah-blah until the thread if forgotten about/superceded by another incident ………

Yadda, yadda, yadda …..

"If you have nothing nice to say ……"

tea and coffee

Personally, I find the "they drowned coz they're black" post far weirder than that one

Weltsmertz

Perfectly legitimate in my view to speculate as to what happened.

Agree though the SJWs who are always looking for something to be offended and outraged by are very annoying and tiresome.

Weltsmertz

tea and coffee wrote: »

Personally, I find the "they drowned coz they're black" post far weirder than that one

Caught my attention as well. Maybe they could do a test like the witch test in Monty Pythons Holy Grail.

Ted_YNWA

Mod

A poster made a comment in bad taste, they then retracted it on thread. The initial comment was quoted multiple times.

I have deleted multiple posts referring to it.

If you are aware of the post - no more reference to it.

If you are not - same applies.

A tragedy happened here, have some compassion.

Silent Running

Pools don't have any suction. They overflow into a drain which feeds the pump through the filters, and is then pumped back to the pool, normally via jets in the wall. There is nothing in the pool to get sucked into. There is only a drain at the lowest point for the purpose of emptying.

BorneTobyWilde

It would be in very bad taste if the mother is looking to now claim they were all Olympic Swimmers in a bid to somehow make money off the back of the deaths, Nigerians love their scams but this is crazy if that's what she is doing.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It would be in very bad taste if the mother is looking to now claim they were all Olympic Swimmers in a bid to somehow make money off the back of the deaths, Nigerians love their scams but this is crazy if that's what she is doing.

What the hell is wrong with some people here. That's a blatantly racist thing to write. WTF like.

greenspurs

Oh just lock it ta fcuk …..

Some peoples phone and keyboards should be taken off them !! (kids on hols?)

Collie D

What a ****ing mess!

BorneTobyWilde

JayZeus wrote: »

What the hell is wrong with some people here. That's a blatantly racist thing to write. WTF like.

If you look at World Corruption Index you'll find Nigeria right there, you'd find many mainstream News Media showing the index, from BBC, to Forbes Magazine. It's only facts, and I'm saying if that is what is going on then it's pretty dam crazy.

But we've seen child killers play the hero, the ones front and center leading the search for missing kids, so it would not be a shock to see that now the mother is suddenly saying they were all Olympic Swimmers.

Im not saying it's what is happening here, I'm just saying it would not come as a shock.

Silly Gilly

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It would be in very bad taste if the mother is looking to now claim they were all Olympic Swimmers in a bid to somehow make money off the back of the deaths, Nigerians love their scams but this is crazy if that's what she is doing.

I knew you were a çunt when you made those comments about Sean Cox. Thanks for proving it yet again. You horrible, horrible individual. What has gone so wrong in your life that this is what you do for entertainment?

Raconteuse

Fair play to BTBW - saw all the upset over the previous comment yet still decided to post the same thing with more extreme elements added to it. What a bad-ass.

SaintLeibowitz

Raconteuse wrote: »

Where did she say they're Olympic swimmers?

She didn't. The poster made it up, to give him a reason to have a go.

EmmetSpiceland

Must be a slow day over in the “Current Affairs” forum.

Weltsmertz

Raconteuse wrote: »

Fair play to BTBW - saw all the upset over the previous comment yet still decided to post the same thing with more extreme elements added to it. What a bad-ass.

The SJWs are so easy to wind up though. Had to be tempting.

Collie D

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If you look at World Corruption Index you'll find Nigeria right there, you'd find many mainstream News Media showing the index, from BBC, to Forbes Magazine. It's only facts, and I'm saying if that is what is going on then it's pretty dam crazy.

But we've seen child killers play the hero, the ones front and center leading the search for missing kids, so it would not be a shock to see that now the mother is suddenly saying they were all Olympic Swimmers.

Im not saying it's what is happening here, I'm just saying it would not come as a shock.

The fact the thought even occurred says more about you.

At least the last poster realised their comments were out of order and retracted. You’re just doubling down.

No doubt I’ll be called a snowflake or SJW something. I’m out of this train wreck so fire away.

Condolences to all involved.

Weltsmertz

Weltsmertz wrote: »

The SJWs are so easy to wind up though. Had to be tempting.

Yeah, tempting for someone to try to score points on a thread about a mother who has just lost her husband and two children.

Utter scumbag stuff.

greenspurs

right....

Im out... this is just gonna clog my notifications,... "Unfollow" …

Weltsmertz

Weltsmertz wrote: »

The SJWs are so easy to wind up though. Had to be tempting.

You're setting the bar extremely low if you think people being disgusted at digs aimed at someone who's lost everyone they love is just sjws being triggered.

Raconteuse

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If you look at World Corruption Index you'll find Nigeria right there, you'd find many mainstream News Media showing the index, from BBC, to Forbes Magazine. It's only facts, and I'm saying if that is what is going on then it's pretty dam crazy.

But we've seen child killers play the hero, the ones front and center leading the search for missing kids, so it would not be a shock to see that now the mother is suddenly saying they were all Olympic Swimmers.

Im not saying it's what is happening here, I'm just saying it would not come as a shock.

- Nobody is denying the high level of corruption and scam artistry unfortunately prevalent in Nigeria

- The mother didn't say they're Olympic swimmers (you look stupid when you keep saying that)

- Of course it would be a shock if it turned out that the woman killed her family or didn't kill them but made up a story about their deaths to cash in, even though she's Nigerian

- You know all of the above and are just out to be controversial; it's a bit loopy really

Weltsmertz

Candie wrote: »

You're setting the bar extremely low if you think people being disgusted at digs aimed at someone who's lost everyone they love is just sjws being triggered.

Thing is though there are tragedys and disasters happening all the time, all over the world. And of course there is racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia etc etc etc.

If you spend your life getting offended and outraged of behalf of others that you don't know because of comments on discussion forums then you will spend your life permanently offended and outraged.

Raconteuse

SJW is such an inane term. It's supposed to refer to those very easily upset folks who e.g. insist on a load of genders. That's not social justice (which is stuff like ending segregation) so it's a stupid phrase in the first place. But it gets used for anything at all, which is stupider again.

Spanish Eyes

People who react to posts that are obviously provocative are worse than the initial poster IMV. Giving oxygen to stirrers.

I think it was a tragic accident myself. Doesn’t make it easier though.