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Looking for dark rum recommendations

  • 07-12-2019 1:39am
    #1
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭


    Hey,
    I'm looking for some rum to try. I only drink dark rum. Will not drink clear rum. Prefer not to spend more than €60 on a bottle or rum, as otherwise I'd get a bottle of Dictador 20 year old rum :D

    Also, prefer to buy it in a shop in Dublin, or nearby Dublin.

    What I've had so far, and loved;
    Black Magic Spiced Rum
    Captain Morgan Black Spiced Rum
    Captain Morgan Private Stock
    Goslings Black Seal
    Angostura 7 year old
    El Dorado 5 Years Old
    Bacardi Oakheart
    Matusalem Solera 7 Year Old
    Dictador 12 year old
    Screech (Canadian rum)

    What I've had so far, and really liked;
    Mount Gay
    Mount Gay XO
    Havana Club 7
    Appleton Estate Signature Blend
    Appleton Estate Reserve Blend
    J. Wray

    What I've had, but only sort of liked;
    Kracken
    Southern Comfort
    Captain Morgans Spiced Rum

    What I've had, but didn't really like, but still drank it, as it cost money :pac:;
    El Dorado 12 Years Old

    Rums I do not like;
    Sailor Jerry


Comments

  • #2
    Ian OB
    Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Ian OB


    Have you tried Sailor Jerry?


  • #3
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Ian OB wrote: »
    Have you tried Sailor Jerry?
    Aye, but not a fan. Added a "do not like" section, as I don't remember the ones I don't drink off the top of my head :pac:


  • #4
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,805 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Southern Comfort is a whiskey (of sorts) liqueur, not a rum!

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #5
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Southern Comfort is a whiskey (of sorts) liqueur, not a rum!

    It’s a bourbon whiskey


  • #6
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    vicwatson wrote: »
    It’s a bourbon whiskey

    It's neither bourbon nor (other) whiskey


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  • #7
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    L1011 wrote: »
    It's neither bourbon nor (other) whiskey

    Southern comfort themselves say it’s a whiskey

    https://www.southerncomfort.com/


  • #8
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Southern comfort themselves say it’s a whiskey

    https://www.southerncomfort.com/

    Except it cannot legally use that term in Europe because its illegally weak.

    Its a whiskey flavoured liquer. It is not a whiskey.

    Pretty certain it cannot use the Bourbon term either for similar reasons.

    And its definitely not a rum, as the topic is!


  • #9
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭harr


    My regular rums are Dictador 20 year old and my absolute favourite Ron zacapa 23 ... at the prices they are I have to tell myself to go easy.
    The Zacapa over a ball of ice sipped is heaven.


  • #10
    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 12,690 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Diplomatico is a fine tipple. The reserva is really nice, and the mantuano is also very very easy on the tongue.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #11
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 27,745 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just curious, how are you drinking it - with water \ ice \ lime etc?
    Cheers.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #12
    TXPTGR1
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭TXPTGR1


    How about a bottle of Sea Dog


  • #13
    sharkman
    Registered Users, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    Matusalem Solera 7 Year Old for me .. LOVE IT . if you know anyone off to tenerife its only 14.90 a bottle ..


  • #14
    pfx1942
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭pfx1942


    For under €60, I would recommend to try Matusalem Gran Reserva 15 and Pyrat XO.
    Angostura 1919 would also be good choice.


  • #15
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭harr


    With so many lovely rums available why isn’t it more popular ? I mean compared to other spirts it’s nearly impossible to get a decent rum in a pub outside of Dublin and even in the city you need to know where to go. For most people rum stops at captain Morgan’s or Bacardi ...


  • #16
    jim o doom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    I was going to recommend some of the Appleton estate ones, but you've had them already! They're very good.


  • #17
    recyclops
    Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭recyclops


    Because most people mix it all the time. Diplomatico would be my glass of choice if straight.

    Kraken is making dark and stormy.

    Havana anejo for a rum and coke.

    It's such a versatile spirit and delicious in everything, rum baba, rum and raisan ice cream haha.

    I bought a bottle of the brewdog botanical rum to try over Christmas.


  • #18
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    The Angustura range is very nice.

    7 year, 1919, 1824 and 1787.

    Bacardi also have some nice dark rums


  • #19
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭harr


    recyclops wrote: »
    Because most people mix it all the time. Diplomatico would be my glass of choice if straight.

    Kraken is making dark and stormy.

    Havana anejo for a rum and coke.

    It's such a versatile spirit and delicious in everything, rum baba, rum and raisan ice cream haha.

    I bought a bottle of the brewdog botanical rum to try over Christmas.

    Ahh dark and stormy my go to cocktail...


  • #20
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Bacardi also have Bacardi Spiced, which I like, picked up two 70cl bottles today in Dunnes, €23 each, I also liked the Oak Heart but haven't seen it in a while


  • #21
    Prefect_1998
    Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    Would it not be better to clearly separate dark rum and spiced rum.

    I think spiced is cheap rum diguised with the spice.

    I have a nice bottle of havana club maestro and also a bottle kirk and sweeneys for christmas.. sipping rums


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  • #22
    recyclops
    Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭recyclops


    Just remembered I had two special bundaberg brought over as wedding gifts in September. They will be tried over Christmas


  • #23
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,725 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    danielle_door wrote: »
    Would it not be better to clearly separate dark rum and spiced rum.

    I think spiced is cheap rum diguised with the spice.

    I have a nice bottle of havana club maestro and also a bottle kirk and sweeneys for christmas.. sipping rums

    By law, they are separated in the EU but many, many producers are flouting the labelling regulations.
    According to the EU there is no such thing as spiced rum. Once you add flavours, sugar or spices, it's no longer rum.

    "(d) Rum shall not be flavoured."

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do%3Furi%3DOJ:L:2008:039:0016:0054:EN:PDF&ved=2ahUKEwjc6Onju9DmAhX1QkEAHVFXA5gQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw2z6C_ltWurkGzaazmgV9VT

    Also, some rums have flavouring added with nothing mentioned on the bottle.
    Nothing would convince me that Pyrat XO isn't full of sugar and flavouring.


  • #24
    Prefect_1998
    Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    By law, they are separated in the EU but many, many producers are flouting the labelling regulations.
    According to the EU there is no such thing as spiced rum. Once you add flavours, sugar or spices, it's no longer rum.

    "(d) Rum shall not be flavoured."

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do%3Furi%3DOJ:L:2008:039:0016:0054:EN:PDF&ved=2ahUKEwjc6Onju9DmAhX1QkEAHVFXA5gQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw2z6C_ltWurkGzaazmgV9VT



    Also, some rums have flavouring added with nothing mentioned on the bottle.
    Nothing would convince me that Pyrat XO isn't full of sugar and flavouring.

    Seems the rum world is the wild west of regulations, there is no consistancy on age claims either, some countries are strict with age on bottles, Jamaica is one.. watched a good video on this.

    https://youtu.be/l7qYd9VQdfk

    Very shouty but gets the point accross


  • #25
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,725 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    danielle_door wrote: »
    Seems the rum world is the wild west of regulations, there is no consistancy on age claims either, some countries are strict with age on bottles, Jamaica is one.. watched a good video on this.

    https://youtu.be/l7qYd9VQdfk

    Very shouty but gets the point accross

    Problem is that rum is made in so many places.
    There's even a few Irish produced rums that are blatantly in breech of the regs.


  • #26
    Prefect_1998
    Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Problem is that rum is made in so many places.
    There's even a few Irish produced rums that are blatantly in breech of the regs.



    I think best thing is keep trying them all until you find a few you like in diferent prices rages and for straight or mixed.


  • #27
    Adyx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    naughtysmurf wrote: »
    Bacardi also have Bacardi Spiced, which I like, picked up two 70cl bottles today in Dunnes, €23 each, I also liked the Oak Heart but haven't seen it in a while

    Oakheart is discontinued in favour of the Bacardi Spiced. The Carta Fuego too.


  • #28
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,725 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    danielle_door wrote: »
    Seems the rum world is the wild west of regulations, there is no consistancy on age claims either, some countries are strict with age on bottles, Jamaica is one.. watched a good video on this.

    https://youtu.be/l7qYd9VQdfk

    Very shouty but gets the point accross

    This video is very good.
    Buying rum without very good retail advice is a minefield.


  • #29
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,725 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Another very informative video on rum. Bit long but very helpful.

    https://youtu.be/v4BLIoXoEgg


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