Chinese prisoners at Xmas

wandererz · 22-12-2019 01:46PM #1

One can only imagine whats going to happen to the prisoners in those prisons mentioned in the Xmas cards now that it's all over the UK media.

I can't believe it's going to be a happy ending.

Fair play to them for getting the word out, but the outcome may not be what they expected.

China will simply suppress any dissent.

So many movements out there atm. We should set up a no purchase from China policy for a year to show them how hard it can hurt.

Mod Link to story: https://www.independent.ie/world-news/tesco-suspends-charity-christmas-cards-after-customer-finds-message-about-alleged-forced-labour-38807379.html

retalivity · 22-12-2019 01:49PM

wandererz wrote: »

So many movements out there atm. We should set up a no purchase from China policy for a year to show them how hard it can hurt.

I would love to see this, just to see how hilariously it would fail. Everything is made in china!

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-12-2019 01:49PM

wandererz wrote: »

One can only imagine whats going to happen to the prisoners in those prisons mentioned in the Xmas cards now that it's all over the UK media.

I can't believe it's going to be a happy ending.

Fair play to them for getting the word out, but the outcome may not be what they expected.

China will simply suppress any dissent.

So many movements out there atm. We should set up a no purchase from China policy for a year to show them how hard it can hurt.

Good luck with that, the device you're posting from was probably 80% / 100% made in China.

Jimbob1977 · 22-12-2019 01:52PM

We're all at fault.

We want it cheap. We want it yesterday.

Some people freak out if their Amazon deliveries are a day late.

China will dominate the 21st century as the West worries about trivialities.

wandererz · 22-12-2019 01:53PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Good luck with that, the device you're posting from was probably 80% / 100% made in China.

True.
I am not disputing that.

wandererz · 22-12-2019 01:56PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

We're all at fault.

We want it cheap. We want it yesterday.

Some people freak out if their Amazon deliveries are a day late.

China will dominate the 21st century as the West worries about trivialities.

100%

We're all so so fixated with trivial issues that we forget or don't recognise the life affecting issues around the world.

Atlantic Dawn · 22-12-2019 01:56PM

Could it not just be someone having the craic at the card factory?

biko · 22-12-2019 02:04PM

Are you referring to the Falun Gong prisoners OP?

Ted_YNWA · 22-12-2019 02:06PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Could it not just be someone having the craic at the card factory?

That was my first thought too. I doubt it would be a case that though. Working in a glorified sweat shop would beat any sense of humour you have out of you.

There must be truth to the fact that the cards are made in a prison as Tesco didn't come out & deny the fact.

Fann Linn · 22-12-2019 02:07PM

biko wrote: »

Are you referring to the Falun Gong prisoners OP?

Its in the Times today. Foreign prisoners from the US, UK, Europe and South America imprisoned or on remand in Shanghai's notorious Brigade 8 prison.

Richard Hillman · 22-12-2019 02:08PM

There is something not believable about this one.

The current Chinese government are probably the most powerful regime in the history of the planet. Not even the Egyptians, Roman Empire, the British Empire, the Soviets etc had a farer reaching influence and intelligence surveillance as the current Chinese government.

Sport (as seen with the NBA, Arsenal, French League) are afraid of their lives of upsetting them. The entertainment industry like Disney, Netflix and so on are tailoring their content to be Chinese friendly.

The Chinese with their surveillance, finance, technology and social credit system is on the brink of becoming the planets greatest ever empire.

And posting from my Huawei phone, I for one know where my bread is buttered and I think the Chinese Government are doing a great job.

You're not going to beat them, don't try, just assimilate.

Dr. Colossus · 22-12-2019 02:09PM

Looks like Tesco is buying cards from the wong factory.

biko · 22-12-2019 02:09PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50883161

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Fann Linn · 22-12-2019 02:12PM

Like for like it's probably just as bad if not worse in Saudi or Israeli jails.
But they're our buddies I suppose.

Dr. Colossus · 22-12-2019 02:14PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Like for like it's probably just as bad if not worse in Saudi or Israeli jails.
But they're our buddies I suppose.

I would rather be in an Israeli prison than a Chinese or Saudi one tbh.

nthclare · 22-12-2019 02:17PM

I remember the first thing I ever seen that was made in China, it was a ruler in school.

Im 45 now but that was a long time ago.
That ruler is a great metaphor, another time I was fishing off a beach with my son he was 6.
And digging a hole and i asked him where was he going to with the hole, he said dad im digging to China..

So he was digging to China and I had a Chinese ruler, a shiny yellow one made of wood.

A lot of kids had one, easily broken and easy to replace.

Back to the ruler Inches, millimetres and centimetres along with a protractor in the middle, they covered all angles.

They started to measure their potential from simplicity.

Like the time the astronauts had problems with gravity and pens for writing, the ink wouldn't work with the lack of gravity, so they asked the Russian cosmonauts what way they got around that problem.

They just responded by saying we use pencils.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

biko · 22-12-2019 02:19PM

Don't wanna pack Christmas cards?
Don't do the crime.

beejee · 22-12-2019 02:20PM

This story is wild!

China has a good whupping coming down the line, the sooner it's done the easier it will be.

The prevailing attitude in mainland is that every other person in the world is dirt to be trod on, and that they are simply rising to their natural position. If anything, the ruling party over there keeps the population at bay, a check against their "enthusiasm".

I'm starting to notice some shops, here and other countries, that display signs stating "not made in china". Wild that it's come to this.

I actively avoid anything produced in China, where I can, which isn't easy. Fook them.

Mrcaramelchoc · 22-12-2019 02:20PM

Damn it.i thought it was a website where you could buy Chinese prisoners for xmas.

biko · 22-12-2019 02:21PM

nthclare wrote: »

Like the time the astronauts had problems with gravity and pens for writing, the ink wouldn't work with the lack of gravity, so they asked the Russian cosmonauts what way they got around that problem.

They just responded by saying we use pencils.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

That's not why they use pens in space.

Pencils have particles of graphite that gets in the electronics and can cause short-circuits and explosions..

22-12-2019 02:24PM

A.

Great.

Bunch.

Of.

Lads.

Still waters · 22-12-2019 02:26PM

nthclare wrote: »

Like the time the astronauts had problems with gravity and pens for writing, the ink wouldn't work with the lack of gravity, so they asked the Russian cosmonauts what way they got around that problem.

They just responded by saying we use pencils.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

That's an urban myth

spurious · 22-12-2019 02:28PM

I don't doubt there are forced workers in China, but there is something very unbelievable about this card story

nthclare · 22-12-2019 02:29PM

biko wrote: »

That's not why they use pens in space.

Pencils have particles of graphite that gets in the electronics and can cause short-circuits and explosions..

The cream rises to the top and the **** at the bottom coagulates and sticks together and finds its place too...

Edgware · 22-12-2019 02:33PM

wandererz wrote: »

One can only imagine whats going to happen to the prisoners in those prisons mentioned in the Xmas cards now that it's all over the UK media.

I can't believe it's going to be a happy ending.

Fair play to them for getting the word out, but the outcome may not be what they expected.

China will simply suppress any dissent.

So many movements out there atm. We should set up a no purchase from China policy for a year to show them how hard it can hurt.

Mod Link to story: https://www.independent.ie/world-news/tesco-suspends-charity-christmas-cards-after-customer-finds-message-about-alleged-forced-labour-38807379.html

"I can't believe it's going to be a happy ending"

Isn't that a Chinese speciality?

twowheelsonly · 22-12-2019 02:37PM

spurious wrote: »

I don't doubt there are forced workers in China, but there is something very unbelievable about this card story

Absolutely. China, where half the Internet is banned, yet some fella in jail uses a .com as a contact. Something tells me that providing prisoners with computers and Internet wouldn't be the high on the list of priorities in China.

Fann Linn · 22-12-2019 02:43PM

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Absolutely. China, where half the Internet is banned, yet some fella in jail uses a .com as a contact. Something tells me that providing prisoners with computers and Internet wouldn't be the high on the list of priorities in China.

According to the article these are foreign prisoners ie US and Europeans.

tuxy · 22-12-2019 02:47PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

According to the article these are foreign prisoners ie US and Europeans.

Yes it's well known that many foreign prisoners are held in Qing Pu prison.

twowheelsonly · 22-12-2019 02:53PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

According to the article these are foreign prisoners ie US and Europeans.

I still don't believe that they'd have internet access though.

Fr_Dougal · 22-12-2019 02:55PM

biko wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50883161

So of all the 100’s of thousands of people this card could have ended up with, it ended up with the daughter of Ben Widdicombe, who just happens to be:

Ben Widdicombe: Ben is new to the Cam Prep Faculty and is teaching the Criminology course this summer. A graduate of the London School of Economics, Ben also holds two MSc degrees in Criminology and Public Management. He currently works as Programme Manager of the Criminal Justice Efficiency Programme , based in London, but has held a wide variety of jobs in leading organisations, including the United Nations, UK Civil Service (including the Prime Minister’s Strategy Unit), Houses of Parliament and Institute for Public Policy Research. He is also pursuing his PhD at the Department of Criminology in Cambridge, examining the use of discretionary decision making in relation to the public interest test..

Source: https://oxbridgeacademicprograms.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/meet-the-faculty-3/21f3bcf/

What an amazing coincidence...

Fann Linn · 22-12-2019 02:57PM

twowheelsonly wrote: »

I still don't believe that they'd have internet access though.

They don't. They wrote out the link to 'Peter Humphreys.com', surprisingly a foreign journalist who was held in that very same prison whilst on remand some years previously.
His crime, writing an article on Chinese corporate corruption.

Chinese prisoners at Xmas

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