Pupils using the racism card

Infernal Racket · 19-12-2019 07:09PM #1

My daughter started her secondary school teaching career lad September at a large school. Every day she has new stories about the levels of disruption in the school caused by students and the restrictions placed on teachers when dealing with these disruptions.

The most pressing issue she and her colleagues have are dealing with immigrant children and children of immigrants. She tells me endless stories about children of African and Brazilian decent (mostly African). The abuse dished out to teachers by these two groups of students is absolutely incredible. When they are challenged they consistently pull the racist card on the teacher, threatening to have them sacked and sued. When the parents of these children are informed, they too use the racism card.

My daughter would say that on average 60 to 90 minutes of her day, every day is taken up dealing with these students which is 60 to 90 mins that she should be teaching every student. Of course she and her colleagues have issues with a wide variety of students but the African children are by far and away the worst.

She and her colleagues have been threatened with violence on a few occasions and one of her male colleagues was assaulted by an African 6th year student earlier in the school year and left out of work for 2 weeks. This is just one school and these are the every day problems. The Pc brigade out there can call me a racist all you like, I am only relaying one new teachers every day experiences.

Are there any of you boardsies teaching or have experience of similiar circumstances?

EmmetSpiceland · 19-12-2019 07:10PM

Gerry G wrote: »

Are there any of you boardsies teaching or have experience of similiar circumstances?

I don’t, no, but I’d say the gang over in the “Current Affairs” forum might.

73bc61lyohr0mu · 19-12-2019 07:11PM

I can hear the boards.ie echo chamber powering up...

Bobblehats · 19-12-2019 07:17PM

Are these pupils dilated or not? I can never tell

CageWager · 19-12-2019 07:18PM

June, July and August

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 19-12-2019 07:18PM

Alfredo Hollow Voyage wrote: »

I can hear the boards.ie echo chamber powering up...

It’s hard to know to which echo chamber you are referring.

Ninthlife · 19-12-2019 07:20PM

Is it racist if you hate them all equally

19-12-2019 07:21PM

My sister in law taught at a school in Dublin City Centre, it was full of foreign children, hardly any Irish at all.
She said it was a pleasure to work there, the kids were all studious & well behaved.
She would have loved to get a permanent job there...
& she has worked in many different schools around Dublin.
So, many different stories I guess.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-12-2019 07:24PM

Your daughter sounds racist.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-12-2019 07:26PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Is it racist if you hate them all equally

No ....but it means you prob have picked the wrong career

19-12-2019 07:28PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Your daughter sounds racist.

Yeah, or imaginary..

Fann Linn · 19-12-2019 07:29PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Your daughter sounds racist.

Why?

GooglePlus · 19-12-2019 07:36PM

Alice?Who dafuk is Alice? wrote: »

I have heard stories of similar in the Blanchardstown area. Quite frankly life is too short. The principal and Board of Management are at fault for allowing this continue.

As for the Nigerians, they add nothing to this country. And half of Lagos is moving in.

Well any Nigerian I know has worked their way through school, University and are contributing plenty more than I am.

I'd swap the scummy Irish out for more people like them.

eviltwin · 19-12-2019 07:42PM

Gerry G wrote: »

My daughter started her secondary school teaching career lad September at a large school. Every day she has new stories about the levels of disruption in the school caused by students and the restrictions placed on teachers when dealing with these disruptions.

The most pressing issue she and her colleagues have are dealing with immigrant children and children of immigrants. She tells me endless stories about children of African and Brazilian decent (mostly African). The abuse dished out to teachers by these two groups of students is absolutely incredible. When they are challenged they consistently pull the racist card on the teacher, threatening to have them sacked and sued. When the parents of these children are informed, they too use the racism card.

My daughter would say that on average 60 to 90 minutes of her day, every day is taken up dealing with these students which is 60 to 90 mins that she should be teaching every student. Of course she and her colleagues have issues with a wide variety of students but the African children are by far and away the worst.

She and her colleagues have been threatened with violence on a few occasions and one of her male colleagues was assaulted by an African 6th year student earlier in the school year and left out of work for 2 weeks. This is just one school and these are the every day problems. The Pc brigade out there can call me a racist all you like, I am only relaying one new teachers every day experiences.

Are there any of you boardsies teaching or have experience of similiar circumstances?

Yeah I'm going to say this didn't happen

Edgware · 19-12-2019 07:43PM

bubblypop wrote: »

My sister in law taught at a school in Dublin City Centre, it was full of foreign children, hardly any Irish at all.
She said it was a pleasure to work there, the kids were all studious & well behaved.
She would have loved to get a permanent job there...
& she has worked in many different schools around Dublin.
So, many different stories I guess.

Was that the sister that was teaching in the Travellers school before the school above?
You know the one. The pupils were all studious and well behaved. The parents gave the teachers great support and really wanted their children to go on and do Phds.

Mrs OBumble · 19-12-2019 07:43PM

Alice?Who dafuk is Alice? wrote: »

I
As for the Nigerians, they add nothing to this country. And half of Lagos is moving in.

The African and Indian descent kids I've met work a damn site harder than many of the indigenous ones. And are polite too.

punisher5112 · 19-12-2019 07:46PM

Doesn't surprise me at all op, have huge issues with them to and from school on buses....

Not every day but it's happening more then ever....

All sorts of abuse and the hilarious bit is they're the ones that comment on skin colour and put downs towards white people.

19-12-2019 07:51PM

Edgware wrote: »

Was that the sister that was teaching in the Travellers school before the school above?
You know the one. The pupils were all studious and well behaved. The parents gave the teachers great support and really wanted their children to go on and do Phds.

? Sorry what?
Don't know what your talking about?

is_that_so · 19-12-2019 07:52PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Yeah I'm going to say this didn't happen

I'll say that even if it is true, a single school does not make it widespread any more than wild local kids causing trouble of teachers means all teens are out of control. It is really a school management issue.

Edgware · 19-12-2019 07:53PM

bubblypop wrote: »

? Sorry what?
Don't know what your talking about?

Of course you do

19-12-2019 07:54PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I'll say that even if it is true, a single school does not make it widespread any more than wild local kids causing trouble of teachers means all teens are out of control. It is really a school management issue.

Yes, it's clearly a discipline issue in this school.
Surely the teachers can sort this out

19-12-2019 07:54PM

Edgware wrote: »

Of course you do

What?

TuringBot47 · 19-12-2019 07:55PM

Gerry G wrote: »

...one of her male colleagues was assaulted by an African 6th year student earlier in the school year and left out of work for 2 weeks.

I completely believe that, had a similar experience.
And they were probably laughing at him for the rest of the year.

The only way to stop this is not to put your trust the Irish justice system... instead sue the parent directly in a civil action. No other way except through their own pocket and then they understand the consequences when it actually affects them.

Strumms · 19-12-2019 08:00PM

TuringBot47 wrote: »

I completely believe that, had a similar experience.
And they were probably laughing at him for the rest of the year.

The only way to stop this is not to trust the justice system... instead sue the parent directly in a civil action. No other way except through their own pocket and then they understand the consequences when he actually affects them.

Correct, if I’m assaulted in my job, I’m calling the Gardai.

If my boss says NO and that’s it’s to be dealt with ‘in house’ I’d point blankly refuse and call them anyway.

If the boss tried to ‘discipline’ me for doing that I’m using EVERY avenue within my scope, Union, teaching colleagues , contacting the office for the minister for education...

Infernal Racket · 19-12-2019 08:01PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Yeah I'm going to say this didn't happen

My daughter is 22, teaches music and religion in a large school in Meath, bordering Dublin. As a religion teacher, she also teaches SPHE and helps out with special needs students too. Of the wide array of kids she deals with, the problems with the Nigerian kids is far far worse than anyone else. She has many eastern European and Indian kids which cause little or no trouble. She has plenty of issues with Irish kids and their parents but still nothing comes close to the Africans. There is a family of 3 brothers who think they control the school and terrorize the locals when they're not in school. She teaches traveller kids who she says are fine and willing to learn but not the Africans.

TuringBot47 · 19-12-2019 08:08PM

Strumms wrote: »

Correct, if I’m assaulted in my job, I’m calling the Gardai.

Did call the guards.
90 witnessses, cc-tv, he was detained for the guards... outside the feckin Four Courts of all places.... not a ****in warning.

I should've sued the parents.
The civil court system seems more severe (look at all the insurance payouts) than the criminal system.

All those parasite lawyers / ambulance chasers would be set up for life if they had a no win / no fee for civil actions against criminals who escaped punishment.

Bobblehats · 19-12-2019 08:13PM

Still waters wrote: »

Hundreds of years of European rule in Africa should have taught us that some races are beyond attempts at civilisation, we don't need African problems in western Europe, but i feel we will learn that lesson too late

What?! The Chinese must be a bit lacking upstairs or something everybody knows Africa’s greatest resource is it’s people.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-12-2019 08:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, or imaginary..

Your imaginary daughter sounds racist! I am imaginary sad for her.

TuringBot47 · 19-12-2019 08:17PM

Bobblehats wrote: »

What?! The Chinese must be a bit lacking upstairs or something everybody knows Africa’s greatest resource is it’s people.

Cheap labour is not the same as "its people".
No problem making them work in a factory... for those that want to work... not the same as importing 2000 people from a random segment of the population. (What Leo Vadakar has proudly announced this week to earn his moral points for an EU position when he gets voted out soon )

Deebles McBeebles · 19-12-2019 08:18PM

Gerry G wrote: »

There is a family of 3 brothers who think they control the school and terrorize the locals when they're not in school.

So its 3 lads from one family who are the cause of her troubles?

Mike9832 wrote: »

D15 is basically the Congo Basin now, it's a wreck

Would have said that's an improvement.

Quantum Erasure · 19-12-2019 08:18PM

Bobblehats wrote: »

What?! The Chinese must be a bit lacking upstairs or something everybody knows Africa’s greatest resource is it’s people.

the Chinese, another great bunch of lads to work.

Pupils using the racism card

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