John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

yabadabado · 13-12-2019 12:08PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm perfectly aware of that.

But most people used to think hunting was acceptable too.

Did they?

I very much doubt that is true.

Irishmale0399 · 13-12-2019 12:11PM

Lads on another note....seem to remember reading during the week that a FAI council member was an employee of/member of South Dublin County Council. Anyone able to name that person...pm if you dont want to do it publically. Or did I drink too much yesterday evening??

johnnyryan89 · 14-12-2019 08:26PM

https://twitter.com/jfallondub/status/1205898360412164096

Irishmale0399 · 14-12-2019 08:47PM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jfallondub/status/1205898360412164096

New FAI me backside....this very man issued a statement supporting JD when this all started. Jobs for the boys....its like musical chairs.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/ddsl-statement-backing-former-fai-ceo-john-delaney-was-not-ratified-by-the-board-37966341.html

HalloweenJack · 15-12-2019 11:58AM

I can't remember but were the DDSL supportive or critical of Delaney when this story broke? It'll give us an indication of what to expect.

Oat23 · 15-12-2019 01:44PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I can't remember but were the DDSL supportive or critical of Delaney when this story broke? It'll give us an indication of what to expect.

As above, there was a statement supporting Delaney released but many board members/all the clubs say they weren't even consulted. Nobody seems to know who in the DDSL is responsible for the statement.

Oat23 · 15-12-2019 09:25PM

Dempsey not taking up the role now despite being nominated.

https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1206309013887033345?s=19

secman · 15-12-2019 09:39PM

How many morons exactly are involved with the FAI , im losing count at this stage. Its becoming more and more obvious that just removing board members is only scratching the surface, there seems to be more cronies than we ever imagined. The current system is broken and needs to be drastically overhauled. Im sure there are very good people too but these people need to stand up and call out the cronies.

johnnyryan89 · 15-12-2019 09:47PM

secman wrote: »

How many morons exactly are involved with the FAI , im losing count at this stage. Its becoming more and more obvious that just removing board members is only scratching the surface, there seems to be more cronies than we ever imagined. The current system is broken and needs to be drastically overhauled. Im sure there are very good people too but these people need to stand up and call out the cronies.

Too many. When a schoolboy league can turn around and just decide that they don't like the changes you've proposed so they're gonna go back to the way they ran things, then it's time for a root and branch overhaul in how things are done. But that's not gonna happen as grassroots football is a money earner for the FAI so you gotta keep them sweet.

Irishmale0399 · 15-12-2019 09:54PM

Oat23 wrote: »

Dempsey not taking up the role now despite being nominated.

https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1206309013887033345?s=19

You couldnt make it up....but you have to give them credit...they tried. These lads have to be removed at all levels of Irish football, the gravey train has broken down and wont be restarting any time soon.

cardwizzard · 15-12-2019 11:47PM

http://indo.ie/Y8sE30q24lL

Some bunch of lads... And clubs the length and breath of the country on their knees

Umaro · 16-12-2019 01:53AM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

But that's not gonna happen as grassroots football is a money earner for the FAI so you gotta keep them sweet.

How is grassroots football a money earner? I would've thought its a money pit, the senior games in the Aviva, television rights and getting to tournaments being the actual big revenue generator.

topmanamillion · 16-12-2019 02:03AM

Umaro wrote: »

How is grassroots football a money earner? I would've thought its a money pit, the senior games in the Aviva, television rights and getting to tournaments being the actual big revenue generator.

It's where the votes are for them.

If new FAI board members are promoted from grassroots football then more fellas like Dempsey will step forward. People who kissed Delaneys hole while the good times rolled because they wanted into the golden circle some day.

The problem is theres an army of Dempsey type brown nosers around the country.

JD had 120+ club reps giving him standing ovations at every AGM for the last 15 years.
And its from that cohort the vacant places on the FAI board will be filled.

16-12-2019 02:07AM

Lay off Johnno. I heard he once went on a fact finding mission to the Maldives. Godspeed. He made it back intact, and charged the taxpayer mere tuppance. We need more pragmatists like him, buy a few pints for the plebs and be designated a man of the people. Dacent skin, shure who doesn't need a "secretary" worth indulging on the public purse.

FixdePitchmark · 16-12-2019 11:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Lay off Johnno. I heard he once went on a fact finding mission to the Maldives. Godspeed. He made it back intact, and charged the taxpayer mere tuppance. We need more pragmatists like him, buy a few pints for the plebs and be designated a man of the people. Dacent skin, shure who doesn't need a "secretary" worth indulging on the public purse.

I know I'm being kind of the devil's advocate.
But is it not fair to say , john realistically could justify his travel to anywhere in the world. .

I know it sounds crazy , but every place on earth has a Football Association, including the Maldives. Soccer has a one nation one vote policy.

He admits it was the best job in the world. That makes taking the piss out of it so stupid.

But as jobs go, travel and expenses would be extremely high and justified if not personal.

There is an argument that his work had drifted into the uefa/fifa elements too much .

Ireland having a person in that position makes sense, the new job he went into, kind of makes sense for someone to do.

He just made a balls of it all for himself and worse for anyone to follow.

As hard as it is for the average soccer fan person to accept
Wearing suits, shaking hands , wining and dining are part of soccer and the corporate side.

Soccer is one of the wealthiest sports in the World , no matter how hard the figures look. You dont bring a visiting sponsor or Association to a supermacs for garlic cheese fries, maybe at 4 in the morning.

look - he made a balls of it for himself and everyone else.

Oat23 · 16-12-2019 10:02PM

topmanamillion wrote: »

It's where the votes are for them.

If new FAI board members are promoted from grassroots football then more fellas like Dempsey will step forward. People who kissed Delaneys hole while the good times rolled because they wanted into the golden circle some day.

The problem is theres an army of Dempsey type brown nosers around the country.

JD had 120+ club reps giving him standing ovations at every AGM for the last 15 years.
And its from that cohort the vacant places on the FAI board will be filled.

The type of morons running grassroots have no place running the national game.

FAI AGM in 2016:

Not to be outdone, Noel Kennedy of the Sligo and Leitrim League added his tuppence worth.

“I had the privilege last year, John, of saying that you are the best CEO that the FAI ever had and, on your home patch, I would like to say ‘thank you’ for proving me correct,” stated Kennedy, who has experienced a road to Damascus conversion since the turn of the century on Delaney.

“The reports given today show how lucky we are to have a person of your calibre guiding us into the future,” added Kennedy about the 48-year-old who is paid €360,000 per year, receives an unspecified pension contribution from the FAI and whose expenses are not revealed in the annual financial report — just as they are not for any of the FAI’s officers or staff.

Another delegate from the west wasn’t slow to prove that there are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

“I would like to make comment on the finance situation because I know that some members of the press are perhaps obsessed with writing about it and quoting the figure,” he said.

“I would just ask them to remember what the debt was incurred for — just remember that piece of property we all have in Dublin.”

tanko · 16-12-2019 10:32PM

Paul Cooke comes out of Leinster House after meeting Shane Ross and announces that "what happened in the past has been well documented, that's in the past, we're moving forward".
Where has what has actually been going on in the FAI under John Delaney been well documented, i'd love to have a read of it.
Apparently he was in looking for €10,000,000 to fill up the trough for the lads. So much for things changing in the FAI.

Irishmale0399 · 16-12-2019 11:02PM

https://twitter.com/paulohehir/status/1206681435840614401

Some change in tone when they are bent over barrel and need money.....

Irishmale0399 · 16-12-2019 11:04PM

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4894661/shane-ross-uefa-save-fai-government-funding/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebarweb

Jeju · 17-12-2019 09:37AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I know I'm being kind of the devil's advocate.
But is it not fair to say , john realistically could justify his travel to anywhere in the world. .

I know it sounds crazy , but every place on earth has a Football Association, including the Maldives. Soccer has a one nation one vote policy.

He admits it was the best job in the world. That makes taking the piss out of it so stupid.

But as jobs go, travel and expenses would be extremely high and justified if not personal.

There is an argument that his work had drifted into the uefa/fifa elements too much .

Ireland having a person in that position makes sense, the new job he went into, kind of makes sense for someone to do.

He just made a balls of it all for himself and worse for anyone to follow.

As hard as it is for the average soccer fan person to accept
Wearing suits, shaking hands , wining and dining are part of soccer and the corporate side.

Soccer is one of the wealthiest sports in the World , no matter how hard the figures look. You dont bring a visiting sponsor or Association to a supermacs for garlic cheese fries, maybe at 4 in the morning.

look - he made a balls of it for himself and everyone else.

Nice try Emma, I know you must stand by you man but as John said to Blatter when he was sleezing over you " move along"

17-12-2019 09:41AM

Sorry if this has been discussed before.

Clearly the FAI has been run into the ground, while certain parties were financing ridiculous birthday bashes. Is there a prospect of Delaney (and possibly other directors) being charged with reckless trading? Are there any criminal consequences to Delaney's actions?

DeanAustin · 17-12-2019 02:58PM

Oat23 wrote: »

The type of morons running grassroots have no place running the national game.

FAI AGM in 2016:

Not to be outdone, Noel Kennedy of the Sligo and Leitrim League added his tuppence worth.

“I had the privilege last year, John, of saying that you are the best CEO that the FAI ever had and, on your home patch, I would like to say ‘thank you’ for proving me correct,” stated Kennedy, who has experienced a road to Damascus conversion since the turn of the century on Delaney.

“The reports given today show how lucky we are to have a person of your calibre guiding us into the future,” added Kennedy about the 48-year-old who is paid €360,000 per year, receives an unspecified pension contribution from the FAI and whose expenses are not revealed in the annual financial report — just as they are not for any of the FAI’s officers or staff.

Another delegate from the west wasn’t slow to prove that there are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

“I would like to make comment on the finance situation because I know that some members of the press are perhaps obsessed with writing about it and quoting the figure,” he said.

“I would just ask them to remember what the debt was incurred for — just remember that piece of property we all have in Dublin.”

Jesus Christ, that reads like something out of Father Ted.

secman · 17-12-2019 03:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sorry if this has been discussed before.

Clearly the FAI has been run into the ground, while certain parties were financing ridiculous birthday bashes. Is there a prospect of Delaney (and possibly other directors) being charged with reckless trading? Are there any criminal consequences to Delaney's actions?

The KOSI report has been referred to both the Garda Fraud department and Office of Corporate Enforcement so we await their decisions... here's hoping and praying.

irishgeo · 17-12-2019 03:09PM

Tbe first thing that jumps out was the fact expenses aren't published for any officers.

Seth Brundle · 17-12-2019 04:35PM

The Football Association of Ireland has turned down a second invitation to appear before the Oireachtas Comittee on Transport, Tourism and Sport.

“At this moment in time, this requires the undivided attention of the board of the bssociation and key management, it is for this reason that the association is regretfully not in a position to appear before the joint committee. ”

:rolleyes:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/fai-turns-down-second-invitation-to-appear-before-oireachtas-committee-1.4118204

17-12-2019 05:34PM

One thing I have to wonder.

Where did Delaney think it was all going to end? I mean, the penny must have dropped at some stage a few years ago that he was in a world of trouble, presumably around the time he started crushing dissent, banning questions at AGMs etc.

I kinda wonder was it around the time his relationship with Emma English was hitting the front pages. It all sounded very over the top, like a man who needed a distraction. You see it in people who have business issues, where it's like they learn to think about something else and live almost a Walter Mitty type existence.

17-12-2019 05:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

One thing I have to wonder.

Where did Delaney think it was all going to end? I mean, the penny must have dropped at some stage a few years ago that he was in a world of trouble, presumably around the time he started crushing dissent, banning questions at AGMs etc.

I kinda wonder was it around the time his relationship with Emma English was hitting the front pages. It all sounded very over the top, like a man who needed a distraction. You see it in people who have business issues, where it's like they learn to think about something else and live almost a Walter Mitty type existence.

Like any gambler, he probably thought he could turn it around. Although, throwing such a lavish birthday party at the FAI's expense was Kim Jong-un levels of deluded. If he was North Korean his name would be - John wrong-un

Irishmale0399 · 17-12-2019 05:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

One thing I have to wonder.

Where did Delaney think it was all going to end? I mean, the penny must have dropped at some stage a few years ago that he was in a world of trouble, presumably around the time he started crushing dissent, banning questions at AGMs etc.

I kinda wonder was it around the time his relationship with Emma English was hitting the front pages. It all sounded very over the top, like a man who needed a distraction. You see it in people who have business issues, where it's like they learn to think about something else and live almost a Walter Mitty type existence.

You might find it was around the time he was giving himself payrises, private pensions and maxing the credit cards.....he didnt leave a poor man and he knows the chances of him being prosecuted are very slim.

Kiith · 17-12-2019 05:41PM

I doubt he gave a ****. He made his money, got a sweet payment when he left, and there's no chance he'll ever face criminal charges in this country. He also clearly couldn't care less about how people view him.

Win win for him really.

salmocab · 17-12-2019 06:39PM

Kiith wrote: »

I doubt he gave a ****. He made his money, got a sweet payment when he left, and there's no chance he'll ever face criminal charges in this country. He also clearly couldn't care less about how people view him.

Win win for him really.

I actually think he does care, he had an image of himself that’s been tarnished beyond belief. It was more than the money for him he wanted a lifestyle and inflated sense of his worth. He’s made off with a ridiculous amount of undeserved cash that he got not for what he could do for the sport but for what he and his cronies could get away with while it lasted and that’s what he will be remembered for. He will always be known as the man that destroyed Irish football. He has no way back in this country to the celebrity that he had and good riddance to him.

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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