Finished drinking vodka at 5am. Can I drive now?

the beer revolu · 15-12-2019 08:47PM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

As an aside, here’s a story which is particularly harsh. Pal of mine got done on a stag...about two hours after getting there. Got there about three pm on a Saturday and he parked in a pay and display area. He had three pints and was told by one of them lads that it was pay and display and should move it. He tried to move it about 50 feet around a corner to non pay and display, what he didn’t realise was that it was a one way street and he entered it, squad car going by at the time. Stopped, questioned, bang of beer, breathalysed, game over. Got the full ban, judge didn’t want to know about it. Had a serious impact on his life and job.

Dope

Higgins5473 · 15-12-2019 08:48PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Dope

No, just three pints of Guinness.

ceadaoin. · 15-12-2019 09:56PM

The Undecided One wrote: »

Waste of resources??? Are you for real??? So it’s better to have people guess if they are still intoxicated rather than go to a garda station and get properly checked over?

It takes a few minutes for a test, road side tests are done in about a minute with a portable brethalizer, while clearing up a RTC takes hours and WAY more resources.

Think this through again.

So if the person is over the limit, now that the guards are aware of this do they now have a duty to ensure they dont go ahead and drive anyway? Maybe they should be detained until they are safe? Or a person isnt over the limit so drives. In the meantime more alcohol has been absorbed into their bloodstream. They have an accident and test over the limit..are the guards responsible? Or the stations are inundated with people just popping in to check their alcohol level, maybe more than once. I just can't see it working.

If you think you might be over the limit, it's best not to drive. Or if you know you have to drive, stick to one drink or none at all. Its not that hard to do.

Potential-Monke · 15-12-2019 10:31PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Maybe, in your case, learning to have fun without alcohol maybe an even better solution.

Exactly! Why drink when you can have cannabis! :pac:

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

I'd genuinely hope this isn't the case. Any garda doing this is endangering other road users. I'd class them as incompetent, not sound.

There's no excuse for drinking and driving. Do one or the other.

If someone fails the roadside breath test, they can brought back to the station. Once in the station, a 20 minute period of nil by mouth starts (ie: can't eat/drink anything). This is a requirement for everyone. Once that's up, it's onto the breathalyzer to give the full accurate reading, or a doctor to take blood/urine. Depending on how far away from the testing station, it could be an hour after the roadside test. In cities the full test is usually within 30 minutes of failing the roadside.

The Undecided One wrote: »

Waste of resources??? Are you for real??? So it’s better to have people guess if they are still intoxicated rather than go to a garda station and get properly checked over?

It takes a few minutes for a test, road side tests are done in about a minute with a portable brethalizer, while clearing up a RTC takes hours and WAY more resources.

Think this through again.

There is no legal requirement or any expectation on the Gardai to allow people to walk in off the street and get breath tested. Yes, the roadside test is quick, but only an indication. But when I was a Garda, if someone came in off the street asking to be tested they would be refused. Too busy for that. And no, it wouldn't have been my fault if they went off and drove and something happened. I didn't tell them to drive, that is still their decision, but would always say to not drive until you're positive you're ok and gave the rough timelines for drinks, again advising it's dependent on the person.

Might be a good little revenue earner though, make it an option and charge €10 a pop. Might as well make money if wasting resources.

branie2 · 15-12-2019 11:05PM

No way

smelly sock · 15-12-2019 11:07PM

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

I'd genuinely hope this isn't the case. Any garda doing this is endangering other road users. I'd class them as incompetent, not sound.

There's no excuse for drinking and driving. Do one or the other.

Good lad.

HeidiHeidi · 15-12-2019 11:09PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

There should be an uber thing where you can hire someone to drive your car with you in to where you need to be.

This was a thing about 10 or 15 years ago, briefly - I think it was called Abhaile? I think insurance matters did for them in the end.

You'd like to think if they can ever sort out the legalities around e-scooters for once and for all, there must be some way of getting it going agan.

Capt'n Midnight · 15-12-2019 11:10PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SIEjo2EII

If you can pass the test you are good to drive.

If you can't then not so much.

BDI · 15-12-2019 11:15PM

Should be grand now op. Drive on.

15-12-2019 11:30PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Good lad.

What sort of attitude is that to have?

alan partridge aha · 15-12-2019 11:39PM

This happened only last month, man in late 60s, lives in a cul de sac (800m), drives up the road, parks car at the top and walks across the main road and into pub.

Got pints then walks back to car and heads back down cul de sac. Guards bagged him, was over and brought to station. Cop in station knew him, said dont test him for a while and when they did he was under.

Mantis Toboggan · 15-12-2019 11:56PM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

This happened only last month, man in late 60s, lives in a cul de sac (800m), drives up the road, parks car at the top and walks across the main road and into pub.

Got pints then walks back to car and heads back down cul de sac. Guards bagged him, was over and brought to station. Cop in station knew him, said dont test him for a while and when they did he was under.

Sadly that's quite common.

16-12-2019 12:12AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

For all the posters giving out about people being on moral high horses, I have a question.

Do you condone driving while over the legal alcohol limit?
Yes?
No?

No. I've delayed driving until the late afternoon after two nights out recently. I don't want to be a danger to others nor lose my licence. In answer to a previous poster I've never driven in the morning while recovering from a big night.

16-12-2019 12:17AM

smelly sock wrote: »

No. But we simply dont know if the OP was over the limit.

I'll say it again. The majority of us have drove the day after a heavy session not knowing if we are in a fit condition. Thats where the big mac comes in.

Big Mac doesn't work. Rehydration doesn't work. Sleep doesn't work. It all helps to make you feel better but only the liver can process the alcohol and thus time is the only solution.

Think of the above when the guards pull you over.

16-12-2019 12:23AM

Magnus Famous Campground wrote: »

I believe the limit is too low. There should be a limit over which I would oh condone driving over but our limit is stupidly low.

You would have to laugh at people claiming they never drive the morning after a heavy night, it’s totally impractical for most people not to drive the next day be it going to work, going to get food, going home after a night out away etc etc,

Why so? I don't. Never have. Nor my pals.

There are always other solutions - public transport, taxi, getting a pal or partner to drive you, taking the day or morning off work, not drinking on workdays, ordering food delivery, etc.

It ain't hard to avoid risking your licence or harming another human.

CFlat · 16-12-2019 01:10AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Why so? I don't. Never have. Nor my pals or their mammies and daddies or my aunts and uncles or all my cousins lol .

How would you know what any of your friends or anybody else does in the morning after they have a few drinks. Are you sitting outside their houses the morning after.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 16-12-2019 02:29AM

Magnus Famous Campground wrote: »

It’s absolute fact, you appear to live a fairly sheltered life if you think this sort of stuff doesn’t happen particularly in rural areas.

You honestly seem to think that nobody else here is from a rural area. This on a message-board for a country where a third of the population lives rurally. Drink-driving happens rurally but you’re the one who is deluded if you think that drink-driving is widely accepted in rural areas. It’s taboo everywhere now and rightfully.

Higgins5473 · 16-12-2019 08:15AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

No. I've delayed driving until the late afternoon after two nights out recently. I don't want to be a danger to others nor lose my licence. In answer to a previous poster I've never driven in the morning while recovering from a big night.

Have you ever driven whilst excessively tired?

facehugger99 · 16-12-2019 08:46AM

Obviously drink-driving is bad, but at the same time if you're in a car accident when sober, it's probably going to hurt a lot more.

asteroids over berlin · 16-12-2019 08:57AM

Hope you seen sense and didn't drive, at max you probably only got 5 hours sleep,this combined with the alcohol intake makes it well ropey to drive. No doubts your over the limit

16-12-2019 10:43AM

CFlat wrote: »

How would you know what any of your friends or anybody else does in the morning after they have a few drinks. Are you sitting outside their houses the morning after.

Firstly, I trust in what they say.

Secondly, they're not fu*kwits. Risking their licences or harming others ain't their thing.

16-12-2019 10:44AM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Have you ever driven whilst excessively tired?

No. There are always other options.

Higgins5473 · 16-12-2019 10:56AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

No. There are always other options.

Did you ever even once use your phone whilst driving?

16-12-2019 11:02AM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Did you ever even once use your phone whilst driving?

Nope. I leave it in my bag in the boot to avoid temptation.

I only started driving in my thirties so am not a natural driver compared to pals who started in their teens. I'm a decent but not a great motorist. Therefore I don't take chances.

lapua20grain · 16-12-2019 11:11AM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Have you ever driven whilst excessively tired?

I did it once and fell asleep at the wheel on the M50 between J6 @ J7 was 4 am, blessed nothing happened pulled over at J9 & had a kip. Very frightening would never do it again.

the beer revolu · 16-12-2019 11:48AM

I've been bagged twice on the way to work in rural areas. I had been drinking the night before both times.
However, I knew I'd be driving in the morning, acted appropriately and nothing showed up on the breathalyser.

The notion that you can't have a few drinks if you're driving in the morning is nonsense.

Yester · 16-12-2019 11:50AM

Just trying to do the calculations here. So, If I start drinking at 7pm and have 6 pints over a 4 hour period, I should be legally ok to drive by 8am the following morning. Does that sound about right?

Higgins5473 · 16-12-2019 12:42PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Nope. I leave it in my bag in the boot to avoid temptation.

I only started driving in my thirties so am not a natural driver compared to pals who started in their teens. I'm a decent but not a great motorist. Therefore I don't take chances.

Sorry, but I don't believe you have never ever used your phone while driving or driven whilst excessively tired. Being over the limit the following morning I do believe you, as it is one of those things that very sensible people can avoid. Pontificating on an online forum is pointless and futile generally as who knows what the truth is, for all we know you are an absolute drunken mess behind the wheel most nights. Everybody knows driving in the morning while over the limit is wrong, whats the point in telling people how wonderful you are for not doing it and how wrong they are? The subject of being over the limit in the morning it is worthy of discussion as an awful lot of people drive whilst over the legal limit totally unintentionally and unbeknownst to them, but telling people ad nauseam on this how wrong it is and how good they are is seriously boring. Have I done it? Most probably, I don't know though for certain but I am prepared to admit this and be honest. I also do my very best to never use my phone, but I have done, I am also prepared to admit this. Nobody is perfect in this world and everybody takes risks as most, if not all of us think it won't happen to us so the pontificating in these circumstances is tedious at best. As I say nobody is perfect, that is until you log on to Boards.ie where you find out just how wrong you are and how they have never made a mistake on every topic ranging from driving whilst over the limit in the morning to letting a fart slip in a lift full of people.

the beer revolu · 16-12-2019 01:02PM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Sorry, but I don't believe you have never ever used your phone while driving or driven whilst excessively tired. Being over the limit the following morning I do believe you, as it is one of those things that very sensible people can avoid. Pontificating on an online forum is pointless and futile generally as who knows what the truth is, for all we know you are an absolute drunken mess behind the wheel most nights. Everybody knows driving in the morning while over the limit is wrong, whats the point in telling people how wonderful you are for not doing it and how wrong they are? The subject of being over the limit in the morning it is worthy of discussion as an awful lot of people drive whilst over the legal limit totally unintentionally and unbeknownst to them, but telling people ad nauseam on this how wrong it is and how good they are is seriously boring. Have I done it? Most probably, I don't know though for certain but I am prepared to admit this and be honest. I also do my very best to never use my phone, but I have done, I am also prepared to admit this. Nobody is perfect in this world and everybody takes risks as most, if not all of us think it won't happen to us so the pontificating in these circumstances is tedious at best. As I say nobody is perfect, that is until you log on to Boards.ie where you find out just how wrong you are and how they have never made a mistake on every topic ranging from driving whilst over the limit in the morning to letting a fart slip in a lift full of people.

The poster was asked if they'd done these things. They answered.
Where's the pontificating?

You do realise that this is discussion on driving in the morning after consuming alcohol? People are going to have opinions on it!

Dravokivich · 16-12-2019 01:12PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Nope. I leave it in my bag in the boot to avoid temptation.

I only started driving in my thirties so am not a natural driver compared to pals who started in their teens. I'm a decent but not a great motorist. Therefore I don't take chances.

There are no great motorists.

Finished drinking vodka at 5am. Can I drive now?

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