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How do we stop coal burning?

  • 14-12-2019 10:07PM
    #1
    Billy Bobb
    Site Banned Posts: 1 ✭


    As Greta Thunberg said: 'I will NEVER burn the coal so I will never pay the toll'.

    While this heartening to hear, how do we get other young women to stop burning the coal?


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  • #2
    Purgative
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Purgative


    Throw water on it.


  • #3
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Give them an app for their latest top of the range samsung smart phones to keep them and their homes warm.....;)


  • #4
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Burn turf instead


  • #5
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Give them bibles, torahs and korans to burn instead.


  • #6
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,645 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Fire-Bucket-1.jpg


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  • #7
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Tell Greta to **** off.


  • #8
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,577 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Billy Bobb wrote: »
    As Greta Thunberg said: 'I will NEVER burn the coal so I will never pay the toll'.

    While this heartening to hear, how do we get other young women to stop burning the coal?

    Of course she will never pay the toll.

    Only solution...make it economically viable for the general populace


  • #9
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Billy Bobb wrote: »
    how do we get other young women to stop burning the coal?

    Leave it to the men, it was always a man's job anyway.

    Or we could rinse and repeat https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058036075


  • #10
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Billy Bobb wrote: »
    As Greta Thunberg said: 'I will NEVER burn the coal so I will never pay the toll'.

    While this heartening to hear, how do we get other young women to stop burning the coal?

    Dont give them matches


  • #11
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,645 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    does anyone else have a habit of skipping over the OP in a thread, just reading the title and skip straight to the replies...?


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  • #12
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    If you want an honest answer then the government needs to incentives to go greener and make it affordable.


    Imagine if ones fire place is blocked up and how much of a difference alone that would make in heat loss and draughts.

    We need to be looking at electric to be honest and getting away from any solid fuel or diesel oil or kerosene or gas for that matter.

    It isn't going to happen over night but it's something that needs doing.


  • #13
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Drones. If you can get away with paralysing major airports with drones, then you can get away with interfering with domestic burning.

    That's the high level plan. You just need to pinpoint what specifically to do with them. Needs to be annoying enough to stop people without actually being dangerous.


  • #14
    galwayllm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭galwayllm


    I don't know about you, but you can stop what you like, I'll burn it by the tonne of I have to....


  • #15
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    galwayllm wrote: »
    I'll burn it by the tonne of I have to....

    Always some libertine with the auld coal :o choking out the street; sooting everyone’s linen you think the neighbours don’t talk?! That there won’t be environmental repercussions.


  • #16
    coinop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    Emma Murphy paid the toll for burning coal.


  • #17
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    We are all ready paying quite a hefty till on a bag of coal as it is


  • #18
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,645 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    feck off back to ******* with that shíte



    ha! its still censored,

    you're just a 'Variation On A Theme', OP


  • #19
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Solar PV, battery storage and an oul heat pump.


  • #20
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,570 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Coal costs money, as does timber and turf and heating oil. There is no reason whatsoever that a house couldn't have electric radiators in all the rooms, and and electric fire in the fireplace and electric water heaters.
    Could be a clean home, and you save 1500 a year from buying the coal, and the timber, and the kindling , and the heating oil. Yes you'll probably spend 1500 more on electric, but at least it's clean.


  • #21
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    One can be self sufficient in heating and cooking if one has access to firewood or turf. If everyone is forced to depend on electricity for heating and cooking, the ability to be self sufficient is removed. Solar panels, generators alone etc are currently not practical in solely powering a house.

    The other disadvantage with removing people’s ability to provide for their own heating and cooking needs is that, energy consumption can be monitored and used as an instrument to exert further control over the populace.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • #22
    Greentopia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Coal is expensive and you're dependent on remote systems and supplies to heat your home, aside from how dirty and polluting it is.

    I'm working to be completely self sufficient in firewood through coppicing in a few years time. Some friends of mine are off grid and have a few acres of permaculture food forests from which they grow their own timber for fuel in solid fuel stoves that heat radiators, or mix that with energy from their own wind turbines and a heat pump.


  • #23
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    does anyone else have a habit of skipping over the OP in a thread, just reading the title and skip straight to the replies...?

    Hairy Japanese bastards.


  • #24
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Billy Bobb wrote: »
    As Greta Thunberg said: 'I will NEVER burn the coal so I will never pay the toll'.

    While this heartening to hear, how do we get other young women to stop burning the coal?

    Ironic that the oh-so-great Nordic countries incl Sweden have levels of resource consumption that are through the roof.


  • #25
    Peatys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Peatys


    You don't need to stop it altogether.. just cover it in slack then give it a poke in the morning


  • #26
    pure.conya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    blast it with piss


  • #27
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Coal costs money, as does timber and turf and heating oil. There is no reason whatsoever that a house couldn't have electric radiators in all the rooms, and and electric fire in the fireplace and electric water heaters.
    Could be a clean home, and you save 1500 a year from buying the coal, and the timber, and the kindling , and the heating oil. Yes you'll probably spend 1500 more on electric, but at least it's clean.


    Electricity costs than coal or turf. Folk on low incomes eg pensioners, do not have that kind of extra money to spend. Even affording solid fuel is hard.


  • #28
    decky1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭decky1


    Billy Bobb wrote: »
    As Greta Thunberg said: 'I will NEVER burn the coal so I will never pay the toll'.

    While this heartening to hear, how do we get other young women to stop burning the coal?

    have you ever taken a look at the power stations etc the amount of smoke coming out of them per minute and that's world wide, and you want us to stop burning coal in our homes,to save the planet, bit like us washing out bean cans before we put them in the bin.not a hope.;)


  • #29
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Greentopia wrote: »
    Coal is expensive and you're dependent on remote systems and supplies to heat your home, aside from how dirty and polluting it is.

    I'm working to be completely self sufficient in firewood through coppicing in a few years time. Some friends of mine are off grid and have a few acres of permaculture food forests from which they grow their own timber for fuel in solid fuel stoves that heat radiators, or mix that with energy from their own wind turbines and a heat pump.

    Away beardy Hippy.

    Nuclear power plants for clean efficient energy.


  • #30
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    We Irish are way ahead of the curve

    “Burn everything that comes from England except their people and their coal”
    - Jonathan Swift 1720


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  • #31
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    tipptom wrote: »
    Away beardy Hippy.

    Nuclear power plants for clean efficient energy.
    Efficient ?
    Nuclear power plants have poor thermal efficiency due to low temperature limits and or needing heat exchangers.

    Also nuclear isn't quick or cheap. By the time you get one approved and built renewables, energy storage, demand shedding and smart meter technologies will have advanced a generation.

    Also nuclear means you have to go into large carbon debt during construction and mining of the initial charge. Wind turbines can be carbon neutral in as little as six months.


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