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Bigger women - secretly liked

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  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Decker Warm Fog


    Pray thee tell, what is a feeder website?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,954 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Well, I like bigger men, lots do.
    I'm sure OP is correct, it has to work that way too.

    There's a lot of BS narrative about what attractive or sexy means. I hate model looks, I find it creepy. Give me nice and burly and happy and natural.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    My leg length is about 34 inches, I'm trying to imagine my leg made into a circle and it seems pretty big tbh . But I accept that my scientific method could be totally wrong!

    Yeah, honestly like, I was overweight for sure but I wasn’t massive. I was about 1.5 stone overweight for my height. Well, 1.5 stone above the upper level of healthy weight for my height. It wasn’t a huge amount and it only took me about three months of taking it nice and slow with the weight loss to get myself within the healthy range again. I was 32” but I suppose two extra inches on top of that might read a lot wider. I dunno!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Pray thee tell, what is a feeder website?

    Think its lads that like women who are huge and encourage them to constantly eat so they won't ever lose weight, very controling behaviour IMO.


  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Decker Warm Fog


    Think its lads that like women who are huge and encourage them to constantly eat so they won't ever lose weight, very controling behaviour IMO.

    Ahhh, had never heard tell of that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭bitofabind


    Given the average Irish woman is a size 16 and statistically most people are coupled up, I don't think it's any secret that men can be partial to the bigger lady.

    I've found there can be a pattern to the attraction I garner based on my weight fluctuations. Granted I've never gained or lost monumental amounts of weight, but as a 5'1 lady, every pound can make a difference. I've been a UK size 4 - 14 and got attention from vastly different types at each end of the spectrum.

    Top end and it was a lot of "ethnic" types, black men, latino men, or men that were similarly overweight. Lower end and it was jock types, athletic types, gym addicts and classicly goodlooking types, and then a LOT of negative attention from women interestingly. "Don't lose anymore weight, you'll disappear!" despite looking pretty great as I was on a fitness and health buzz and am tiny in stature so can take the lower weight.

    I find in general, people tend to be attracted to similarly proportioned folks, fat attracts fat and athletic attracts athletic, etc. Not often I see an obese woman with a fit as a fiddle guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    People have different opinions on what is curvy, for me someone like Kelly Brook would be in that category.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

    She was size 14 in 1962, the equivalent of an Irish size 8-10 in 2019. She had a variable waist but generally 24 inches and a BMI between 19 and 22. Very far from overweight.

    And in answer to the original question - yes, loads of guys I know fancy larger women whether regularly or occasionally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    Yeah I wouldn't rule out dating a woman if she was "bigger" at all. Far from it. Really wouldn't bother me at all.
    Taller would be more of an issue for me because society has conditioned us that way, I'd feel strange going out with a woman who was significantly taller than me, which is absurd really but it's just that from all my female friends in the past they said they wouldn't date a shorter fella than them so it's stuck in my head.
    That's the only phsyical thing that would be an issue for me. Slim or "big" wouldn't register much, more interested in whether they're the right person to have fun with and a chat on the sofa and feel comfortable with.
    Mind, I wouldn't be necessarily more attracted to big built women than slim women either if that's the question.
    Just wouldn't be a thing either way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    bitofabind wrote: »
    Given the average Irish woman is a size 16 and statistically most people are coupled up, I don't think it's any secret that men can be partial to the bigger lady.

    I've found there can be a pattern to the attraction I garner based on my weight fluctuations. Granted I've never gained or lost monumental amounts of weight, but as a 5'1 lady, every pound can make a difference. I've been a UK size 4 - 14 and got attention from vastly different types at each end of the spectrum.

    Top end and it was a lot of "ethnic" types, black men, latino men, or men that were similarly overweight. Lower end and it was jock types, athletic types, gym addicts and classicly goodlooking types, and then a LOT of negative attention from women interestingly. "Don't lose anymore weight, you'll disappear!" despite looking pretty great as I was on a fitness and health buzz and am tiny in stature so can take the lower weight.

    I find in general, people tend to be attracted to similarly proportioned folks, fat attracts fat and athletic attracts athletic, etc. Not often I see an obese woman with a fit as a fiddle guy.

    One could argue that if the average woman size is 16 then men don’t really have a choice.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    bitofabind wrote: »
    I find in general, people tend to be attracted to similarly proportioned folks, fat attracts fat and athletic attracts athletic, etc.
    That's been my general impression too B. Certainly for me. I have tried to go outside that a couple of times and they were very nice women and any man would be happy out on that score, but I just didn't feel that animal attraction to the same degree compared to my "type"(basically lighter than me), even if said type wasn't as sound in other ways. You can't force that feeling, or I can't anyway. Plus it narrows things a bit, because like you said the average is outside the range of my type. I am not saying I might not meet someone not my type and fall for them and have that animal attraction thing, but it's not happened yet.

    Then again I'd also not apologise for my preferences. A few folks have said that they find thin women/people a turn off, even creepy :D and I'd not give them static for feeling that. Whatever floats your boat and oils your axle. Though I have found a tiny bit of a trend where it's seen as more acceptable to say "ewww skinny women are a turn off, I want a "real" woman(whatever the holy hell that means)", but to say the reverse will more likely bring down the hounds of interwebs hell. :D And I get why. People are getting fatter(more men than women actually) and fatter people are much more the butt of jokes and derision, which goes triple for women, who are bombarded with The Perfect Body(tm) for far longer and more often than men are. There are descriptions of eating disorders in women looking to get to the "ideal" going back to ancient Greece. In other cultures where fat women were more the ideal they had feeding houses and other means to fatten them up to make them "marriageable". The modern world has amped that up a lot, even more these days with distortions of reality where even the "ideal" women pictured are altered. Well it aims to keep women off kilter and self conscious enough to keep buying into diets and spanx and all that to keep the greasy tills ringing. The "real woman" guff is also money and advertising led, because with people getting fatter that's yet another market to plough and harvest. Because you're worth it. :rolleyes:

    It's why I can never understand when I see, hear or read about feminist women commentators who are also big into fashion. That industry has a scary level of influence on how women feel about themselves and much of it bad. And like I've noted before a mere glance at the front page of a mainstream porn site over the course of a week will show more diversity of shape, age and ethnicity than has graced the catwalks of Paris or the pages of Vogue in a century.

    /rant
    Not often I see an obese woman with a fit as a fiddle guy.

    Though I have known a few thin even scrawny guys with much bigger women. Much less so the other direction, unless - and it's a bit of a cliche I grant you - they had a few quid above the average.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 877 ✭✭✭jk23


    Something about tall women is very attractive. But most women that are seem to not like being an above average height for women...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭Alecto


    At my heaviest (size 20),I actually had a boyfriend who was 8 stone/53kg. We broke up and he ended up going out with a girl even bigger than me so I guess that was his type. Though I was actually a size 12/14 when I first met him.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    One could argue that if the average woman size is 16 then men don’t really have a choice.
    Sure, but that's the average H, which in general means that yeah there are a fair number of size 16's but for every size 18 there's also a size 8. If you like 8, 16, or 18 then just go for 8, 16, or 18. I see plenty of women of all sizes on a daily basis everywhere I look. I mean the average (natural)hair colour is likely a mousey brown, but there are a shedload of blondes and brunettes and redheads and all sorts of other colours out there. Nobody is forcing anyone into going for a specific feature. Though as Bitofabind pointed out like tends to go with like, so if you're into size 8 and are the male equivalent of a size 20 personal choice may be limited.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    A US size 16, that's a 12 here. She was very slender before she died.

    She was actually a size 4, she had a 24 inch waist at her biggest - when she was pregnant, she had an unusually curvy shape - big boobs, tiny waist, big ass - basically like a kardashian.

    Just for some clarification - when I was a teenager and in my early twenties I was a size 6 - (very fast metabolism), I am also exactly the same height as Marilyn Monroe - I had a 25 inch waist - if you go onto any womens clothes websites and click into the measurements the average waist size for a size 6 is 24 - 25 inches.
    Marilyn Monroe would have been less than a size 0 at her smallest. Her boobs wearn't even that big, they were just big for her frame.

    I'd be very much against comparing yourself to other people and taking your self worth from what men find attractive. That attitude and mindset is very damaging to your self esteem. All it comes to is where your body stores fat and theres nothing any of us can do about that unless we choose to go down the cosmetic surgery route. Is it any wonder so many women suffer from eating disorders and get plastic surgery? There is so much pressure to look a certain way.

    At my smallest I was called everything from anorexic, to bulimic and told to go eat a burger. I have seen skinny bashing posts on social media many, many times, at one stage it became a social media trend to bash skinny women as an attempt to prevent eating disorders.

    Its not really about being fat or skinny, it's really about having the perfect hour glass shape - unless you have big boobs, a tiny waist and a big backside like a kardashian, you cant win - most men say they dont like the kardashians or find them attractive but given half the chance thats the shape they go for.
    I have seen men throw their lives away for women who have big boobs and a small waist, never take the chance to get to know her until it's too late and he realizes they have very little in common.

    Its ridiculous to waste your time wishing you could live up to some superficial ideal because men think its attractive or the media focuses on it more than other sizes and shapes. That's one way in which eating disorders and mental health issues start.

    If your not happy with yourself then change but only change for yourself and do it in a healthy, enjoyable way, develop your hobbies and skills and focus on other things besides how you look, theres much more to life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭bitofabind


    Wibbs wrote: »
    That's been my general impression too B. Certainly for me. I have tried to go outside that a couple of times and they were very nice women and any man would be happy out on that score, but I just didn't feel that animal attraction to the same degree compared to my "type"(basically lighter than me), even if said type wasn't as sound in other ways. You can't force that feeling, or I can't anyway. Plus it narrows things a bit, because like you said the average is outside the range of my type. I am not saying I might not meet someone not my type and fall for them and have that animal attraction thing, but it's not happened yet.

    Yeah I'd say I'm not attracted to fat or very skinny men in a general sense (think Ryan Tubridy). No apologies here, as you say that animal attraction isn't exactly something that's open to debate.

    All of my exes have ranged from normal sized lads to very fit, now physically they all differed massively as far as features were concerned and what ultimately led things in the direction of a relationship was the much deeper stuff - personality traits, life compatibility, similar values etc. But that physical draw has to be there in some capacity starting off and I guess normal healthy fit bodies are most sexy to me.
    One could argue that if the average woman size is 16 then men don’t really have a choice.

    Well the same survey will tell you that men are fatter now too than olden days, so I'd hold your horses on that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    NewRed2 wrote: »
    Taller would be more of an issue for me because society has conditioned us that way, I'd feel strange going out with a woman who was significantly taller than me, which is absurd really but it's just that from all my female friends in the past they said they wouldn't date a shorter fella than them so it's stuck in my head.
    That's the only phsyical thing that would be an issue for me.

    I’m 6ft 1 my missus is 6ft 2, and taller in heels!! Luckily I find tall women sexy ASF!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Felix Jones is God.


    bitofabind wrote: »
    Yeah I'd say I'm not attracted to fat or very skinny men in a general sense (think Ryan Tubridy). No apologies here, as you say that animal attraction isn't exactly something that's open to debate.

    All of my exes have ranged from normal sized lads to very fit, now physically they all differed massively as far as features were concerned and what ultimately led things in the direction of a relationship was the much deeper stuff - personality traits, life compatibility, similar values etc. But that physical draw has to be there in some capacity starting off and I guess normal healthy fit bodies are most sexy to me.



    Well the same survey will tell you that men are fatter now too than olden days, so I'd hold your horses on that one.

    I'm not fat...I'm big boned! :)

    Wibbs said that for every size 18... there's a size 8.....well, if the average size in Ireland is 16,...patently that's wrong.. otherwise youd bring the mean average down to approx 12.5....anyhoo....live and let live...the world would be a very vanilla place if we were all attracted to the same size, colour, shape, ethnicity etc


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Wibbs said that for every size 18... there's a size 8.....well, if the average size in Ireland is 16,...patently that's wrong.. otherwise youd bring the mean average down to approx 12.5.
    Unless you factor in the 18's and 20's skewing it back upwards.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    Alecto wrote: »
    At my heaviest (size 20),I actually had a boyfriend who was 8 stone/53kg. We broke up and he ended up going out with a girl even bigger than me so I guess that was his type. Though I was actually a size 12/14 when I first met him.


    8 stone for a fella is extemely light! I'm 12 stone I think, and I'm not a big fella.
    Sure maybe you're viewing things backwards. Maybe you could be seen to have a thing for skinny fellas! :D
    I'm half joking with that but seriously, you should forget about what you or partners weigh and just enjoy being who you are.
    I'm something like 5"9 or 5"10 there abouts I think, not short but not tall either for a guy.

    Anyway, one night in a taxi home from a club yonks ago I was sitting into a taxi and as we were moving off a girl shouted rathfarnham in the window so I told driver to let her in and we agreed to share fare to same area.
    She chatted away to me and asked for my number (bear in mind we're sitting in a taxi here) and we met up again and kissed and stuff but she eventually told me she wouldnt see me again because when she wore high heals she would be taller than me in photographs.
    She wasn't even taller than me, just thinking ahead if she wore heals and a photo was taken :pac:

    Ya know, this is what some people view as important.

    It's a great way of weeding out the superficial characters. If yer a wee bit too heavy or slim or not tall enough for high heal photos etc then ya probably had a lucky escape.
    Then again, I said in previous post I wouldnt be comfortable with a taller woman so maybe I'm a hypocrite.
    Society eh? :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    OOnegative wrote: »
    I’m 6ft 1 my missus is 6ft 2, and taller in heels!! Luckily I find tall women sexy ASF!!


    :)


    Ah one inch isn't really what I meant, but either way good for yee guys, thats the way it should be. Hardly important in the grand scheme of things.
    Just a society thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The super slim supermodel esque body type is not attractive to me.

    At the basic instinct level men are biologically programmed to be attracted to healthy women for breeding purposes , not underweight or overweight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    The thinnest that I'd go for would be toned. Not a fan of being able to see their rib cage.

    Won't go for women that are bigger than I. And that size is dropping.
    One could argue that if the average woman size is 16 then men don’t really have a choice.
    Would rather be celibate than fcuk a fat girl.
    jk23 wrote: »
    Something about tall women is very attractive. But most women that are seem to not like being an above average height for women...
    I class anything up to 6" as "small". 6" in heels will still be smaller than me. Am 6' 6" in bare feet, but about 6' 6" when wearing my boots.
    Wibbs wrote: »
    "real" woman(whatever the holy hell that means)
    IMO, when they refer to a "real woman", they are referring to a fat woman. It's the female equivalent of a "dad bod".
    I'm not fat...I'm big boned! :)
    Personally, I'm fat 18/19 stone. But as I'm taller, I may not seem as fat.
    The super slim supermodel esque body type is not attractive to me.
    Personally, I'd rather she have a bit of muscle than be super thin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    the_syco wrote: »
    about 6' 6" when wearing my boots.
    .


    You wear boots?


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NewRed2 wrote: »
    You wear boots?

    Tall people have been allowed wear footwear since the referendum. Some of my best friends are shod tall people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    Tall people have been allowed wear footwear since the referendum. Some of my best friends are shod tall people.


    Outrageous! Pesky referendum! This is what happens when you give tall people more rights!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Whatever about people's personal proclivities towards overweight people (I personally find them unappealing), I find that a lot of the Healthy At Every Size bull**** on the internet to be incredibly harmful.

    For those who are unaware, the Healthy At Every Size movement (that's ironic) purports that obese people are being discriminated against because of their weight, to the extent that even claims from the medical community that obesity effects a person's health negatively are said to be false.

    My obese daughter showed me a few examples from social media, posts about how obesity is a personal choice and even observing that it's not healthy to be obese is some sort of misogynistic conspiracy by the Patriarchy. This is all despite the fact that the unhealthiness of obesity is extremely well-documented.

    I was apoplectic when I saw them. Imagine some impressionable young teenager suffering from issues with their weight reading that propaganda. It's incredibly irresponsible that "grown" adults would share this kind of trash, only because they're insecure about their own weight and trying to shift reality to suit themselves. They can roll around in the muck as much as they like themselves but dragging anyone else down with them is inexcusable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Curvy sure, rolls of fat obese with underarm wings **** no!

    Obesity should always be discouraged, not accepted as a norm...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Curvy sure, rolls of fat obese with underarm wings **** no!

    Obesity should always be discouraged, not accepted as a norm...


    The only thing that matters in life is to be happy and give and receive kindness. People get far too hung up on physical appearance.
    Of course if we're talking about obesity to the point of health issues then yeah you need to be careful but aside from that live and let live.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭Homelander


    With both men and women it really depends on the way the weight is held. Personally I like bigger pear or (generally) hourglass shaped women at all as much as slender or athletic, both are equally appealing in different ways. Similarly many women are OK with a stocky or husky guy, but less so with a man who carried it disproportionately, like having a slender waist/legs but a big gut.

    It's a funny perception thing despite it being all about genetics really. Woman A and Woman B could have the exact same height and frame and diet, but one could develop a heavy pear or hourglass shape, while the other develops a gut and big double chin. While I would generally find the former appealing the latter is the polar opposite to the point of personal revulsion.

    So when people ask questions like "Do you like bigger girls/guys", it's pretty much impossible to answer with a black/white answer really, unless you're a person who's exclusively attracted to people who are slim/athletic/skinny (which is fine as a preference).


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