Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

Hotblack Desiato · 11-12-2019 11:52PM

elperello wrote: »

Discussion coming up on Virgin Media 1.

Just been watching for a couple of minutes

Is there anybody on that panel who isn't a complete gobsh!te, utter liar, or both?

11-12-2019 11:54PM

I nearly threw the remote at my lovely 42 inch flat screen telly.

"Because alcohol is so cheap here"

Go f*ck yourself.

Go and travel and see what is cheap in other countries.

11-12-2019 11:55PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Just been watching for a couple of minutes

Is there anybody on that panel who isn't a complete gobsh!te, utter liar, or both?

Nobody on the panel who disagress. One big circle jerk.

Jinglejangle69 · 11-12-2019 11:55PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I nearly threw the remote at my lovely 42 inch flat screen telly.

"Because alcohol is so cheap here"

Go f*ck yourself.

Go and travel and see what is cheap in other countries.

And wages are the same yeah?

Poland for example?

elperello · 11-12-2019 11:55PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Just been watching for a couple of minutes

Is there anybody on that panel who isn't a complete gobsh!te, utter liar, or both?

I don't know about that but you can tell the politicians hold their clinics in pubs.
I know for a fact MF does.

11-12-2019 11:57PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

And wages are the wage yeah?

Poland for example?

France, Germany, Belgium, a bottle of wine is 2-3 euros. A bottle of beer 50 cent. Not supermarket budget basement brands but mainstream ones.

Atlantic Dawn · 12-12-2019 12:01AM

I could see a boycott of pubs when this ever goes live, will be fun times ahead.

Suckit · 12-12-2019 12:58AM

Is there talk of this controlling floor pricing in other countries?
https://phys.org/news/2019-12-debunks-myth-imposed-floor-alcohol.html

This should be fun. I know that here, we as a nation in the last 30 years seem to have become more submissive, but I wait with bated breath for the outcome of this in other countries.

Micky 32 · 12-12-2019 01:22AM

So what would a bottle of wine that’s say 7/8 euro now work out after the minimun pricing is brought in?

Cantona's Collars · 12-12-2019 09:28AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

So what would a bottle of wine that’s say 7/8 euro now work out after the minimun pricing is brought in?

It'll be brought up to match the price of a more premium brand.

A can of Galahad is about 75c or so,if this mup comes in it'll be the same price as a can of Heineken or similar.

Cheap €15 per 70cl spirits will be increased in price to match Smirnoff or similar brands.

Of course it's Ireland so watch as the premium brands are sneakily increased in price too and mup is blamed.

Geuze · 12-12-2019 10:18AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I nearly threw the remote at my lovely 42 inch flat screen telly.

"Because alcohol is so cheap here"

Go and travel and see what is cheap in other countries.

Yes.

50cl cans start at 29c in Germany.

12-12-2019 10:45AM

Geuze wrote: »

Yes.

50cl cans start at 29c in Germany.

Czech Republic, ten bottles of beer 4 euro.

Ireland, 4 bottles of Czech beer ten euros.

We have cheap alcohol here :rolleyes:

odyssey06 · 12-12-2019 01:23PM

Suckit wrote: »

Is there talk of this controlling floor pricing in other countries?
https://phys.org/news/2019-12-debunks-myth-imposed-floor-alcohol.html

These background studies are bogus in my view in terms of applicability to a country (or island) as a whole.
'Canada' did not introduce MUP, one province did. Scotland introduced it, England did not. That Australian province is huge though, it's the size of a large country.
You would need to look at the differences between its sub-regions that are adjacent to states that did not introduce MUP versus those 'deep' inside the Northern Territory.

Unless you factor in cross-jurisdiction sales they prove nothing much really about total effects on consumption \ pricing.
Although you can say that the poorest potentially would be least able to avail of cross-jurisdiction sales so the findings may be more applicable at lower income scales.

Suckit · 12-12-2019 01:37PM

I had a list of price matches from France, Germany, Netherlands and one or two more, but there is no need for it. The prices are ridiculous here.

Anyone that says alcohol here is cheap, is so far out of touch that they shouldn't be speaking in public.

easypazz · 12-12-2019 02:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

To be honest, no people won't be bothered spending 90 minutes going across the border. The disparity is currently so huge that its worth it. Any small increase here will send people flocking to Derry.

I bought two litres of Jameson in Belfast a few weeks ago for £50. One litre here is 38 euro. If it hits 50 for a litre here people will be flocking in droves.

I doubt Jameson will go up in price under MUP.

You can get 2 litres here for less than €50 most of the time anyway.

Thelonious Monk · 12-12-2019 02:36PM

So probably 85% of people dont want this law, apart from a few holy Joes here and there. Why on earth are they doing something that will make us hate them even more? Also how come FF dont come out and say theyll scrap it if they get voted in, an easy vote winner from the common man.

ohnonotgmail · 12-12-2019 02:37PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

So probably 85% of people dont want this law, apart from a few holy Joes here and there. Why on earth are they doing something that will make us hate them even more? Also how come FF dont come out and say theyll scrap it if they get voted in, an easy vote winner from the common man.

they are doing it for the benefit of publicans and nothing else.

easypazz · 12-12-2019 02:40PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

So probably 85% of people dont want this law, apart from a few holy Joes here and there. Why on earth are they doing something that will make us hate them even more? Also how come FF dont come out and say theyll scrap it if they get voted in, an easy vote winner from the common man.

pretty sure all parties are in favour of it.

Thelonious Monk · 12-12-2019 02:41PM

easypazz wrote: »

pretty sure all parties are in favour of it.

Yes I'm pretty sure no one voted against it. F*cking bizarre how out of touch they are with normal people.

12-12-2019 02:52PM

easypazz wrote: »

You can get 2 litres here for less than €50 most of the time anyway.

Where?

Suckit · 12-12-2019 03:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Where?

Tesco is the cheapest I have seen Jameson here. At the minute I think it's €20 for 750ml and €28 for 1L.

But I only saw the 1L as I was going out the door the other day, so I might be wrong about that one. I will however, be going back to get one, as it will definitely go up.

ohnonotgmail · 12-12-2019 04:01PM

Suckit wrote: »

Tesco is the cheapest I have seen Jameson here. At the minute I think it's €20 for 750ml and €28 for 1L.

But I only saw the 1L as I was going out the door the other day, so I might be wrong about that one. I will however, be going back to get one, as it will definitely go up.

tesco are charging 38 euro for a 1L bottle of Jameson at the moment.

12-12-2019 04:06PM

Suckit wrote: »

Tesco is the cheapest I have seen Jameson here. At the minute I think it's €20 for 750ml and €28 for 1L.

But I only saw the 1L as I was going out the door the other day, so I might be wrong about that one. I will however, be going back to get one, as it will definitely go up.

I just checked the website, its 38 for a litre.

3 700ml bottles would be 2.1 liters but would cost you 60 quid.

While 20 euros for Jameson sounds like good value, the same bottle in Czech Republic would cost 13 euros.

odyssey06 · 12-12-2019 04:10PM

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I just checked the website, its 38 for a litre.

3 700ml bottles would be 2.1 liters but would cost you 60 quid.

While 20 euros for Jameson sounds like good value, the same bottle in Czech Republic would cost 13 euros.

I think the only way you'd get 2 litres for €50 here would be (a) when it's on offer at €20 for 70cl AND (b) you have a spend €50 get €10 off coupon. Buy 3.

KrustyUCC · 12-12-2019 04:14PM

easypazz wrote: »

I doubt Jameson will go up in price under MUP.

You can get 2 litres here for less than €50 most of the time anyway.

Of course it will go up

The likes of Aldi whiskey will go up to a minimum of €22.09 under MUP increasing by over €3

Their scotch will go up over €6

You don't think Jameson will add on €3 as a premium brand?

Of course they will

No way can you get 2 litres of Jameson for less than €50 most of the time

Most of the sales in Jameson are 700ml bottles so you would need 3 for €50

Quackster · 12-12-2019 04:22PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Of course it will go up

The likes of Aldi whiskey will go up to a minimum of €22.09 under MUP increasing by over €3

Their scotch will go up over €6

You don't think Jameson will add on €3 as a premium brand?

Of course they will

The producers might increase wholesale prices but the multiples will still sell the 'premium' brands as loss-leaders to get folk in their doors. So Jameson and the likes should still be on offer as cheap as MUP allows at least some of the time.

The likelihood is that many/most own-label budget brands will just be squeezed out of the market as they'll no longer have a raison d'être.

easypazz · 12-12-2019 05:04PM

Dunnes often do the Jameson 700ml for €20 which is €15 nett of vouchers or €21.5 for a litre.

Tesco had 2 for €35 the other day.

ohnonotgmail · 12-12-2019 05:24PM

easypazz wrote: »

Dunnes often do the Jameson 700ml for €20 which is €15 nett of vouchers or €21.5 for a litre.

Tesco had 2 for €35 the other day.

none of which they would be able to do under MUP.

easypazz · 12-12-2019 05:34PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

none of which they would be able to do under MUP.

You are correct, would 1 litre of Jameson be €32 minimum!!:eek::eek:

brick tamland · 12-12-2019 06:04PM

Wont go through until the north implements similar i reckon, as it will just push millions of euro over the border. The north are years away from even thinking about this with the brexit shambles.

Hopefully

Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

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