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The Healy Raes

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    #842
    partyguinness
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Neither of the two of them ever ran for election in south Kerry.


    I know that but their family have (local and general) and it is only a matter of time before they are lined up.


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    #843
    Shefwedfan
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Neither of the two of them ever ran for election in south Kerry.


    Not yet....but very very soon they will be


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    #844
    SlowBlowin
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    partyguinness wrote: »
    I know that but their family have (local and general) and it is only a matter of time before they are lined up.

    Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

    So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.


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    #845
    salmocab
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    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

    So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.

    I agree with you to a point but when you use the defence in court that your only there because of who your family is then you have very much brought your family into it yourself. Keeping the family out of it should cut both ways. It’s obvious they feel they were above the levels we all judge ourselves on based on who they are.


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    #846
    Shefwedfan
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    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

    So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.




    Parents should be judged based on their children....


    Especially in this situation when the children despite huge evidence against them continued to lie.


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    #847
    Rows Grower
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Parents should be judged based on their children....


    Especially in this situation when the children despite huge evidence against them continued to lie.

    That's not fair on your mother and father.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #848
    SlowBlowin
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Parents should be judged based on their children....


    Especially in this situation when the children despite huge evidence against them continued to lie.

    If they float then they are guilty !

    Bought to you by the same reasoned argument that all the people of Kerry are mucksavages because some of them voted for the HRs.


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    #849
    James Brown
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    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

    So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.

    So they don't run for public office in relation to their family name?
    If they can sell themselves based on their brand, equally being two street brawlers jumping on a lad with their pal should be considered.


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    #850
    Rows Grower
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    So they don't run for public office in relation to their family name?
    If they can sell themselves based on their brand, equally being two street brawlers jumping on a lad with their pal should be considered.

    Correct Matt, they do not.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #851
    StringerBell
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    Michael Healy Rae is a very good politician, very good. Sharp as a tac and plays his part very well. Danny is an oaf, of course and any of the other nameless Healy Rae's I couldn't tell you anything about other than they have quite the cartel going down below there in Kerry.

    Michael is the only one to have impressed me with his political acumen anyway I can tell you that much.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #852
    SlowBlowin
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    So they don't run for public office in relation to their family name?

    I don't think so, seems a stupid thing to do.

    I think more likely the interest in the profession runs in the family. Like our butchers dad was - ALSO a butcher, and the blacksmiths dad - WAS also a blacksmith.

    The blacksmiths dad is not generally blamed if his son's work is poor, not locally anyway.


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    #853
    Rows Grower
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    StringerBell wrote: »
    Michael Healy Rae is a very good politician, very good. Sharp as a tac and plays his part very well. Danny is an oaf, of course and any of the other nameless Healy Rae's I couldn't tell you anything about other than they have quite the cartel going down below there in Kerry.

    Michael is the only one to have impressed me with his political acumen anyway I can tell you that much.

    Did you ever hear of his father, Jackie?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #854
    SlowBlowin
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    StringerBell wrote: »
    Michael Healy Rae is a very good politician, very good. Sharp as a tac and plays his part very well. Danny is an oaf, of course and any of the other nameless Healy Rae's I couldn't tell you anything about other than they have quite the cartel going down below there in Kerry.

    Michael is the only one to have impressed me with his political acumen anyway I can tell you that much.

    I agree with you on MHR hes a smart chap, I also like Johnny, both of them are approachable and caring, not met the rest of the family.


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    #855
    Shefwedfan
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    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    If they float then they are guilty !

    Bought to you by the same reasoned argument that all the people of Kerry are mucksavages because some of them voted for the HRs.

    I didn’t call all Kerry people muck savages

    In regards to your first statement, yes they are guilty. Why do you think they are innocent?


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    #856
    James Brown
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    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    I don't think so, seems a stupid thing to do.

    I think more likely the interest in the profession runs in the family. Like our butchers dad was - ALSO a butcher, and the blacksmiths dad - WAS also a blacksmith.

    The blacksmiths dad is not generally blamed if his son's work is poor, not locally anyway.

    Convenience more likely.

    That's not the point. If one of the young thugs ran under Smith, how might they fare against the other thug if he was going under Healy-Rae?


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    #857
    SlowBlowin
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I didn’t call all Kerry people muck savages

    In regards to your first statement, yes they are guilty. Why do you think they are innocent?

    I didnt say you said it, it was a poster just before.

    I was discussing "The Healy Raes", its the thread title.


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    #858
    SlowBlowin
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Convenience more likely.

    That's not the point. If one of the young thugs ran under Smith, how might they fare against the other thug if he was going under Healy-Rae?

    I have read that a few times, I must be being thick, can you explain the point another way ?


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    #859
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Noteworthy.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/kerry-and-westmeath-county-councils-fail-transparency-test-1.4110062

    Shock and horror, no wonder the government wanted to curtail the powers of local government.


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    #860
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    I didnt say you said it, it was a poster just before.

    I was discussing "The Healy Raes", its the thread title.


    I noticed you didnt answer my question?


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    #861
    SlowBlowin
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I noticed you didnt answer my question?

    You said "Parents should be judged based on their children...."

    I said "If they float then they are guilty !"

    I was comparing your statement to the judgments made in the witch trails in the late 1600's, the ducking stool etc.

    As I have had to explain it I obviously failed my attempt at humor.

    I don't believe there is a question for me to answer, I didn't voice an opinion on the incident at the chip van, check my posts ?

    Edit: If you are trying to ask me to comment on the verdict in relation to the chip van thing, it obviously happened the CCTV showed the details, as to what was said etc, no idea.


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    #862
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    You said "Parents should be judged based on their children...."

    I said "If they float then they are guilty !"

    I was comparing your statement to the judgments made in the witch trails in the late 1600's, the ducking stool etc.

    As I have had to explain it I obviously failed my attempt at humor.

    I don't believe there is a question for me to answer, I didn't voice an opinion on the incident at the chip van, check my posts ?


    In case you missed it I put it in bold...thats the question I am referring to.....


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I didn’t call all Kerry people muck savages

    In regards to your first statement, yes they are guilty. Why do you think they are innocent?


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    #863
    SlowBlowin
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    Sorry just answered in an edit above.


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    #864
    SlowBlowin
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    No as I said, there was obviously an altercation and they have been found guilty.

    Edit: Assuming you are talking about the chipvan and not the parents.


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    #865
    lukin
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    StringerBell wrote: »
    Michael is the only one to have impressed me with his political acumen anyway I can tell you that much.

    Yes he proved how intelligent he was when he sang the praises of John Delaney last April didn't he?


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    #866
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Out boosting the profiles https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/kerry-td-danny-healy-rae-banned-from-asking-dail-questions-for-rest-of-week-969612.html

    As stupid as it may seem tagging themselves onto a turf ban ect is the way to go for the Healy Raes. Most green measures will be spun to be an attack on rural Ireland.


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    #867
    STB.
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    There is something seriously wrong with this country when someone is allowed serve as a Councillor whilst having a criminal conviction for serious assault and who only dodged a custodial sentence because it was his first time.

    And on a Joint Policing Strategy committee to boot. Someone needs to make the easy decision here pronto about the inappropriateness, if he wont do it himself. Or is it his fúcking Council too.

    Brass neck.


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    #868
    salmocab
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    STB. wrote: »
    There is something seriously wrong with this country when someone is allowed serve as a Councillor whilst having a criminal conviction for serious assault and who only dodged a custodial sentence because it was his first time.

    And on a Joint Policing Strategy committee to boot. Someone needs to make the easy decision here pronto about the inappropriateness, if he wont do it himself. Or is it his fúcking Council too.

    Brass neck.

    The second point is the one that really makes a mockery of things. I’m so so about the first one in the long run. If we had decent folk in office all over he’d have stepped down trim that committee.


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    #869
    mikeym
    Registered Users Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    The solicitor says one thing and they do another.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/1211/1098555-healy-rae-appeal/


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    #870
    ilkhanid
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    salmocab wrote: »
    If we had decent folk in office all over he’d have stepped down trim that committee.

    He'd claim that his conviction gives him valuable experience of the criminal justice system.


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    #871
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,138 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Noteworthy.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/kerry-and-westmeath-county-councils-fail-transparency-test-1.4110062
    Calhoun wrote: »
    Out boosting the profiles https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/kerry-td-danny-healy-rae-banned-from-asking-dail-questions-for-rest-of-week-969612.html

    As stupid as it may seem tagging themselves onto a turf ban ect is the way to go for the Healy Raes. Most green measures will be spun to be an attack on rural Ireland.


    Here's another one - making a few quid is DHR. Nice to be getting a dig out of 200k in contracts from the council.......


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