Do you know anyone who was/is homeless?

mr_fegelien · 01-12-2019 06:06PM #1

And how did they get out of that situation?

sportsfan90 · 01-12-2019 06:11PM

I've recently moved back in with my parents for a few months.

Many would have you believe that I should be considered homeless.

mr_fegelien · 01-12-2019 06:17PM

sportsfan90 wrote: »

I've recently moved back in with my parents for a few months.

Many would have you believe that I should be considered homeless.

Where did you stay though before you moved back in?

PhilOssophy · 01-12-2019 06:18PM

Define "homeless" OP?

Shady Grady · 01-12-2019 06:23PM

From your posts,closest you came to understanding being homeless.was your mommy and daddy threatening you.You don't know **** about the world so you post these threads.Like I said before grow the **** up.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-12-2019 06:24PM

Didn't you nearly get in that situation a few weeks ago yourself.

You never seem to grasp that life is not simple nor black and white.

There is a myriad of reasons why people become homeless. Even the term 'homeless' is subjective.

Do I know any one? I wouldn't know her well but I am on first name terms with a young girl living rough locally. I only know her enough to buy her breakfast occasionally and chat: her reasons are complicated and for herself alone.

suicide_circus · 01-12-2019 06:28PM

i would define homeless as not having a key to the door of the place you lay your head at night

mr_fegelien · 01-12-2019 06:30PM

Shady Grady wrote: »

From your posts,closest you came to understanding being homeless.was your mommy and daddy threatening you.You don't know **** about the world so you post these threads.Like I said before grow the **** up.

U mad bro

I'm asking a question to learn about the world and you're getting mad at me..smh

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-12-2019 06:30PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Where did you stay though before you moved back in?

Why? What does it matter to you? Have you no study to do, or friends to talk to, or music to listen to, or something positive to ponder?
Ever think of volunteering with a charity to help and meet homeless people?

There's a strange voyeurism at play and it needs reigning in.

mr_fegelien · 01-12-2019 06:31PM

Ava Sticky Robe wrote: »

Why? What does it matter to you? Have you no study to do, or friends to talk to, or music to listen to, or something positive to ponder?
Ever think of volunteering with a charity to help and meet homeless people?

There's a strange voyeurism at play and it needs reigning in.

The reason I ask is because I want to know whether it's abnormal to get kicked out at 21 with no job or formal education and if so, how do people generally fare once kicked out.

suicide_circus · 01-12-2019 06:35PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

The reason I ask is because I want to know whether it's abnormal to get kicked out at 21 with no job or formal education and if so, how do people generally fare once kicked out.

it would be extremely unusual for a 21 year old in Ireland to have no education. How would they fare? the state will provide shelter, medical care, education and cash all for nothing

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-12-2019 06:35PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

The reason I ask is because I want to know whether it's abnormal to get kicked out at 21 with no job or formal education and if so, how do people generally fare once kicked out.

Of course it's not 'normal' in that it happens a small minority. Why do you ask? Is mammy threatening to turn off the WiFi again?

How they fare depends on the individual. There's no manual on life and very few standardised outcomes to a wealth of situations.

Shady Grady · 01-12-2019 06:38PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

U mad bro

I'm asking a question to learn about the world and you're getting mad at me..smh

Nah my brother, I'm not mad just can't understand the weakness and stupidity. It's your life but if you post ****,expect to get reactions.But at your point in life,you should have accomplished more instead of mooching off your parents and acting like a spoiled child,IMO

Ronin247 · 01-12-2019 06:52PM

From citizens information

" In general, you may be considered homeless if you are:

Sleeping rough
Staying in an emergency hostel or refuge
Staying in bed and breakfast or hotel accommodation on a temporary basis
Staying temporarily with friends or family because you have nowhere else to go
Squatting (occupying a building illegally"

I have been in some of the situations above in my time.

I have never once considered myself homeless.

Thousands of people stay temporarily with family or friends because they have no where else to go..... how the f#@k are they homeless??

eviltwin · 01-12-2019 07:44PM

I work with homeless people, most of them are there because of domestic violence, sheer bad luck to lose a job or addiction leading to family breakdown. I was homeless for two months when I was younger due to family breakdown, it can happen to anyone.

katiek102010 · 01-12-2019 08:14PM

I know 3 who were/are technically fit the description.

1) house was repossessed 10 years ago approx. The father lost his job and banks ppi refused to pay out as mother was working but wages not sufficient to pay mortgage and feed family, and also former manager was not able to be located to sign paperwork as to why employees were let go and business folded. Dodgy company by all accounts and took months before he was able to claim. Bank sent people around to house to discuss their finances!!! These financial people basically told them to vacate the property within a week. No court appearance anything. Terrified the lives out of them. To this day they are still renting. They were very innocent and I have seen all paperwork etc, they were only around 3 months in arrears with mortgage. They were paying weekly payments just not the full monthly amount. Couldn't afford a solicitor and were waiting for citizens advice to see them.

2) a young couple kicked out by a dodgy landlord. They ended up with family.

3) a guy who has split up with his wife. She kicked him out as she met someone else. Currently trying to get him to go see a solicitor to get house sorted but he's in bits. Can't afford to rent anywhere as he's still paying mortgage on family home

sportsfan90 · 01-12-2019 09:33PM

katiek102010 wrote: »

3) a guy who has split up with his wife. She kicked him out as she met someone else. Currently trying to get him to go see a solicitor to get house sorted but he's in bits. Can't afford to rent anywhere as he's still paying mortgage on family home

Poor guy

There are many types of homeless people, but the separated father who still pays a mortgage on a property he doesn't get to live in seems to get little to no attention.

Obviously I don't know all the details in his case, but in general someone in his position should absolutely refuse to leave the family home. Hopefully things will get easier for him.

Raconteuse · 01-12-2019 09:37PM

Yes. Severe mental health issues - suicide attempts, self harm, and swimming in drugs and alcohol. Also extremely volatile and aggressive. A scary person at times. Frankly quite a horrible person. This was him only in his late teens/early 20s. He always ignored attempts to help him, and plenty of people cared. Now in his 30s he's sleeping rough and an alcoholic. Don't know about his father but his mother and sister are lovely. He grew up in a rough area but had a loving family who did their best.

Nobody rational wants anyone to end up in that situation of course. But sometimes it's not the fault of the government or "society" and down to choices and behaviour.

katiek102010 · 01-12-2019 10:04PM

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Poor guy

There are many types of homeless people, but the separated father who still pays a mortgage on a property he doesn't get to live in seems to get little to no attention.

Obviously I don't know all the details in his case, but in general someone in his position should absolutely refuse to leave the family home. Hopefully things will get easier for him.

I feel sorry for him. By all accounts he has done nothing wrong. Every penny is in the house, inheritance from parents etc. He needs to get a solicitor but he's not there yet. Sofa surfing with mates etc

anewme · 01-12-2019 10:09PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Yes. Severe mental health issues - suicide attempts, self harm, and swimming in drugs and alcohol. Also extremely volatile and aggressive. A scary person at times. Frankly quite a horrible person. This was him only in his late teens/early 20s. He always ignored attempts to help him, and plenty of people cared. Now in his 30s he's sleeping rough and an alcoholic. Don't know about his father but his mother and sister are lovely. He grew up in a rough area but had a loving family who did their best.

Nobody rational wants anyone to end up in that situation of course. But sometimes it's not the fault of the government or "society" and down to choices and behaviour.

Knew someone who went down that road (without being a horrible person) Lovely young man with mental health and alcohol issues. Family tried to reach but couldn't. Hard to see him (and his little dog) going down a slippery slope sleeping out on the canal and in dangerous situations.

Eventually an elderly Aunt (of all people) roped him in to be her
" carer" (but in fairness she was his) and hes got a job again and looks healthy and happy. I see him walking his little dog. Gorgeous looking guy, well dressed, you'd never guess now he'd been a rough sleeper.

debok · 01-12-2019 10:14PM

Ronin247 wrote: »

From citizens information

" In general, you may be considered homeless if you are:

Sleeping rough
Staying in an emergency hostel or refuge
Staying in bed and breakfast or hotel accommodation on a temporary basis
Staying temporarily with friends or family because you have nowhere else to go
Squatting (occupying a building illegally"

I have been in some of the situations above in my time.

I have never once considered myself homeless.

Thousands of people stay temporarily with family or friends because they have no where else to go..... how the f#@k are they homeless??

Because if the goodness of others was taking away, they would be homeless.

mr_fegelien · 01-12-2019 10:38PM

A more focued question, does anyone know someone who is homeless (in a hostel or sleeping rough) due to being kicked out by family?

corner of hells · 01-12-2019 10:42PM

anewme wrote: »

Knew someone who went down that road (without being a horrible person) Lovely young man with mental health and alcohol issues. Family tried to reach but couldn't. Hard to see him (and his little dog) going down a slippery slope sleeping out on the canal and in dangerous situations.

Eventually an elderly Aunt (of all people) roped him in to be her
" carer" (but in fairness she was his) and hes got a job again and looks healthy and happy. I see him walking his little dog. Gorgeous looking guy, well dressed, you'd never guess now he'd been a rough sleeper.

A friend of mine was persuaded by his wife to build a Granny Flat out the back of his house for his brother in law.
The lad became homeless when his mother died ,was rough sleeping and drinking heavily.
The only condition to stay in the granny flat was he must look after the family dog.

Hes stopped drinking now and works part-time .

My friends complaint is that the dog is looked after better than he is.

Aside from that , I also work in homeless services and would be familiar with a lot of homeless in Dublin.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-12-2019 10:42PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

A more focued question, does anyone know someone who is homeless (in a hostel or sleeping rough) due to being kicked out by family?

Yes.

mr_fegelien · 01-12-2019 10:57PM

corner of hells wrote: »

A friend of mine was persuaded by his wife to build a Granny Flat out the back of his house for his brother in law.
The lad became homeless when his mother died ,was rough sleeping and drinking heavily.
The only condition to stay in the granny flat was he must look after the family dog.

Hes stopped drinking now and works part-time .

My friends complaint is that the dog is looked after better than he is.

Aside from that , I also work in homeless services and would be familiar with a lot of homeless in Dublin.

Do they face violence as rough sleepers?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-12-2019 11:02PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Do they face violence as rough sleepers?

You seem to either have a fascination with homelessness, are close to being homeless or see yourself as being homeless at some point. So, why not contact Focus Ireland and discuss it with them? They are the experts and know the score better than After Hours.

cj maxx · 01-12-2019 11:48PM

Myself, almost. Its very easy .

Fr_Dougal · 01-12-2019 11:53PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

A more focued question, does anyone know someone who is homeless (in a hostel or sleeping rough) due to being kicked out by family?

If you stop acting the bollix your parents won’t kick you out, but you already know this.

Raconteuse · 02-12-2019 12:07AM

Jeez Mr f gets a hell of a hard time here yet keeps coming back for more

I kinda think fair play. I know he posts some awful stuff and is clearly just out to seek attention at times (he even said as much) but his questions aren't always that bad, and he's young and curious. He retains his humour to the last.

Definitely a few far worse folk here.

Your Face · 02-12-2019 03:26AM

I knew one fella, I got to know him fairly well. He was sleeping rough in Galway. He had his head screwed on - no drink or drugs and was working a few hours a week.
He just was going through bad patch and wasn't going to ask anyone for help. He got a job in Dublin and I never seen him around again.

ILoveYourVibes · 02-12-2019 03:28AM

No I don't.

Do you know anyone who was/is homeless?

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