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Why are men older in relationships?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Dancehippo wrote: »
    But why relative maturity and not absolute maturity?

    I don't think it's maturity at all, it's social status and respect. You think with your pussy, your oussy wants greater social status in a partner.
    My pussy is smart then!


  • Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I tend to date women younger than me, simply because women my own age generally don't have similar interests. For example, I enjoy dressing up and heading to an expensive cocktail bar for a few drinks while listening to some decent Jazz... I find that few women my age are interested in the same once they get into a relationship. Instead, it's about socialising with groups of friends at a restaurant, or doing something at home. Whereas younger women tend to enjoy dressing up, going to the bar, and watching those around them.

    I find with most of my male friends (in their late 30s/40s) that there is a difference in what they want from life, as opposed to their partners. In most cases, the woman is focusing on setting up her home and nearby environment. Friends in "this place", acquaintances "in that place", excursions to visit friends being acceptable, but no longer being interested in the same activities from their 30s. Whereas the males want a more active lifestyle, with a continuance of their 30s. Some elements of what their partner wants, but mostly they buckle to her will on most matters.

    I date younger women because they're not interested in "arranging" their life so completely. They're more flexible in their lifestyles and are willing to try new activities.

    You make some good points here. Would also add that when married, the friends you socialise with then to be her friends, because most men can't make arrangements without consulting or "getting a visa" as one friend describes it, from their wives, so you end up not socialising with people you get on with.

    Most married men end up with very few friends. The myth of dying alone for men is just that, a myth. Single or particularly divorced men have a huge social circle compared to married men.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    A lot of these women are not having any sex and probably are at home with netflix a bottle of wine and a faithful dog - to be honest relationships are tedious & difficult and require too much work. A dog requires a walk ( good for you too ) a meal ( not fussy whatever with nuts a bit of fish or meat) easy and then curl up and snuggle on the couch and watch the netflix! why would you bring a mauling sex obsessed man into this lovely picture..... who wants sex wants to grab your boobs wants to put his finger in your vagina the dog just snores cuddles and occasionally farts easy peasy !! If men watched less porn and were less obsessed with their penis they might succeed but its hard to beat a pet who loves you unconditionally !!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    A lot of these women are not having any sex and probably are at home with netflix a bottle of wine and a faithful dog - to be honest relationships are tedious & difficult and require too much work. A dog requires a walk ( good for you too ) a meal ( not fussy whatever with nuts a bit of fish or meat) easy and then curl up and snuggle on the couch and watch the netflix! why would you bring a mauling sex obsessed man into this lovely picture..... who wants sex wants to grab your boobs wants to put his finger in your vagina the dog just snores cuddles and occasionally farts easy peasy !! If men watched less porn and were less obsessed with their penis they might succeed but its hard to beat a pet who loves you unconditionally !!!!!!

    Are you one of those weirdos who shifts their dog and thinks its normal owner/pet relationship stuff?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    You make some good points here. Would also add that when married, the friends you socialise with then to be her friends, because most men can't make arrangements without consulting or "getting a visa" as one friend describes it, from their wives, so you end up not socialising with people you get on with.

    Most married men end up with very few friends. The myth of dying alone for men is just that, a myth. Single or particularly divorced men have a huge social circle compared to married men.
    Do you have any other interests besides "women are terrible"? Are you that derogatory towards your daughters and partner? Interesting how you put yourself through the indignity of having a partner when we're so terrible. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    A lot of these women are not having any sex and probably are at home with netflix a bottle of wine and a faithful dog - to be honest relationships are tedious & difficult and require too much work. A dog requires a walk ( good for you too ) a meal ( not fussy whatever with nuts a bit of fish or meat) easy and then curl up and snuggle on the couch and watch the netflix! why would you bring a mauling sex obsessed man into this lovely picture..... who wants sex wants to grab your boobs wants to put his finger in your vagina the dog just snores cuddles and occasionally farts easy peasy !! If men watched less porn and were less obsessed with their penis they might succeed but its hard to beat a pet who loves you unconditionally !!!!!!

    Men generally are obsessed with sex and it is a strong influence on how we behave. Men generally either accept this fact or try to deny it and behave according to which attitude they take. If you don't like dealing with that, as I agree it can be tedious to deal with men, then I'm glad you have found your happiness in the companionship with your dog!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Do you have any other interests besides "women are terrible"? Are you that derogatory towards your daughters and partner? Interesting how you put yourself through the indignity of having a partner when we're so terrible. :rolleyes:

    ye i'd say most of the 'i'm not allowed shure' either just don't want to go and are blaming her, or won't engage in basic communication at home


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    Boring answer: women have a much smaller window of opportunity to get their lives in order. Men have a much larger window. That's the basis.

    Interesting answer: as women grow up, a fidangle appears above the left ear, whereas the man's fidongle needs cultivation between the toes. A carefully cultivated fidongle will stimulate the already-receptive fidangle at a distance no less than 8 paces. This is commonly recognised as the ridongulation phase.

    Ridongulation between the fidangle and fidongle is a grand old time of it altogether, hence the age gap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    bluewolf wrote: »
    ye i'd say most of the 'i'm not allowed shure' either just don't want to go and are blaming her, or won't engage in basic communication at home
    My dad does it all the time - "oh I'd better ask the wife!" when she'd be utterly baffled if he asked her permission for anything (obviously, seeing as he's a grown man) and when he wants to do something, he just goes ahead and does it, and it wouldn't even enter his head to ask permission.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    why would you bring a mauling sex obsessed man into this lovely picture..... who wants sex wants to grab your boobs wants to put his finger in your vagina/quote]


    I'd be hoping for more than a finger.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    why would you bring a mauling sex obsessed man into this lovely picture..... who wants sex wants to grab your boobs wants to put his finger in your vagina/quote]


    I'd be hoping for more than a finger.

    Good for you to have ambition but the girls who like their doggies wont be entertaining you all . The only hope for are the ~HIV / STD infected ladettes who may drink you under the table first !! & a drunk man is usually a flacido domingo !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject



    Good for you to have ambition but the girls who like their doggies wont be entertaining you all . The only hope for are the ~HIV / STD infected ladettes who may drink you under the table first !! & a drunk man is usually a flacido domingo !!

    I'm a woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Rufeo


    Who is Chore Sex guy on here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Shady Grady


    Because us older gents know how to treat the ladies. It ain't all about sex but the just getting to know one other and just have a good time. Young cats today think they have to bed a woman to feel proud of themselves. It ain't all about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭randomspud


    Because young minge is great and they are easily fooled by a few grey hairs and a few quid of amassed wealth thrown around for the first few weeks of the "relationship".


    Sure, we're more mature or whatever. We aren't simply interested in that yoke between your legs like all those 20-something year old dip****s that you are ignoring. We're all deep and ****.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You make some good points here. Would also add that when married, the friends you socialise with then to be her friends, because most men can't make arrangements without consulting or "getting a visa" as one friend describes it, from their wives, so you end up not socialising with people you get on with.

    True enough, although it's there for many girlfriends when you reach the one year stage. I'm still friends with most of my ex's... and that drives a lot of women crazy with them demanding that I end the friendships. I have absolutely no interest in being with my ex's ever again.. the reasons for breaking up are just as valid now, as they were then, but I find a lot of older women are rather insecure about ex's and can't trust their partner in relation to them.
    Most married men end up with very few friends. The myth of dying alone for men is just that, a myth. Single or particularly divorced men have a huge social circle compared to married men.

    I've never been married but I've had a few "serious" relationships. I find that the friends of the guy are vetted for acceptability whereas, naturally, all of her friends are perfectly fine. :D But TBH I found myself less interested in going out while in a relationship, and friendships just lapsed. Female friendships tend to survive that stage better because women seem far more willing to do other social activities to meet, like going to the spa or gym. Most of my male friends are working late, so the bar tends to be the best place to meet.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because us older gents know how to treat the ladies.

    That certainly helps, although it takes a lot of experimentation to figure it out. There's a lot of BS out there to wade through and throw away. Besides, it gets boring always doing the same thing, even if it works, so we all tend to become more experienced (although I suppose it depends on your type of experience, and whether that's in a marriage or singledom)
    It ain't all about sex but the just getting to know one other and just have a good time. Young cats today think they have to bed a woman to feel proud of themselves. It ain't all about that.

    TBF, I suspect all young men feel the same way. I certainly did, and considering how much guys talk about sex, I suspect most men do. I once considered sexual performance to be the ultimate marker but later realised it's just one of many boxes to be ticked. It's just part of growing up and becoming more experienced.

    I've been single most of my life, with about 8 years worth of relationship time. The remainder has been singledom.... and on the single dating scene, sex is very much a strong motivator for many people (both genders) rather than finding a more "meaningful" partner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Do you have any other interests besides "women are terrible"? Are you that derogatory towards your daughters and partner? Interesting how you put yourself through the indignity of having a partner when we're so terrible. :rolleyes:


    Not a big fan of the whole every woman's your daughter/mother/wife imo. Seems a bit silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Not a big fan of the whole every woman's your daughter/mother/wife imo. Seems a bit silly.
    I didn't say "Every woman's your daughter/mother/wife".

    Why is it silly? Inconvenient truth?

    What's silly is going on constantly about how awful women are. And even worse is doing so with a wife/daughters.

    Exact same applies to certain women who bitch and moan about men, yet have husbands/sons.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Beviaamo wrote: »
    Most married men are controlled by their wives.

    That's the case in any long-term relationship, not just marriage. Once guys lose the edge from dating, they tend to drop the leadership role in a relationship. From my experience, men tend to be in control during the dating process, but not after.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Crikey, the bleak outlook some have. Thinking of relationships in terms of who is "in control"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Crikey, the bleak outlook some have. Thinking of relationships in terms of who is "in control"?


    You'd be suprised how often a relationship fails because the female partner feels out of control/disrespected. I guess it goes back to the woman sacrificing job opportunities, beauty and opportunities for at least 8 years.


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    I didn't say "Every woman's your daughter/mother/wife".

    Why is it silly? Inconvenient truth?

    What's silly is going on constantly about how awful women are. And even worse is doing so with a wife/daughters.

    Exact same applies to certain women who bitch and moan about men, yet have husbands/sons.


    Is it narcistic to see something as 'you disagree with me because you agree with me!'



    You can complain about women and still love your daughter/wife/women in general. The genders are socialised differently and it's natural to get frustrated about how your gender is percieved.



    If women can have the freedom of not being defined as mother/daughter, then men should have the freedom of not being forced to see them as mother to be obeyed or daughter to be protected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    You'd be suprised how often a relationship fails because the female partner feels out of control/disrespected. I guess it goes back to the woman sacrificing job opportunities, beauty and opportunities for at least 8 years.



    Is it narcistic to see something as 'you disagree with me because you agree with me!'



    You can complain about women and still love your daughter/wife/women in general. The genders are socialised differently and it's natural to get frustrated about how your gender is percieved.



    If women can have the freedom of not being defined as mother/daughter, then men should have the freedom of not being forced to see them as mother to be obeyed or daughter to be protected.
    Crikey, that's some amount of mental acrobatics to justify saying women are awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Crikey, that's some amount of mental acrobatics to justify saying women are awful.


    Okay. Thank you for the contribution.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    Women aren't awful neither are men its the frequency of sex that has numbed the interest if we could have it less we would be less bored with it and wouldnt have to invent perversions to make it interesting.

    Dogs cant have sex around the clock nature dictates this so they can breed 3/4 weeks per year thence no violent sex or anal sex or choking or hanging just copulation to procreate the puppies.

    Human = sex 24/7 = boredom = inventing ****e = violence = women hating sex. SIMPLE and old men are just a bit richer but they are still predators with flacid flesh and long balls !! A whole lot of hot air ......


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Women aren't awful neither are men its the frequency of sex that has numbed the interest if we could have it less we would be less bored with it and wouldnt have to invent perversions to make it interesting.

    Dogs cant have sex around the clock nature dictates this so they can breed 3/4 weeks per year thence no violent sex or anal sex or choking or hanging just copulation to procreate the puppies.

    Human = sex 24/7 = boredom = inventing ****e = violence = women hating sex. SIMPLE and old men are just a bit richer but they are still predators with flacid flesh and long balls !! A whole lot of hot air ......

    Always been a fan of both Doggy Style and dogging, I never realised how much humans had in common with them.

    It is gas the way dogs don't give blow jobs either, even the gay ones. Yet they are always sniffing pussy. Fair play to the dogs, eh ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's amazing the view many have of sexual habits, practices and desires. It seems to have little to no basis in reality.
    And, yet, if school children were to be taught not only the mechanics of sex but the desires, practices and experiences, there would be uproar that children were being exposed to that and that it was yet more PC nonsense.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bizarre couple of pages. But anecdotally, I guess I'd agree that women maintain social control in long-term relationships more often than not. It's called marital abuse if it's the man trapping his wife at home not letting her see her friends, but the opposite is treated as perfectly normal thing.

    I was one of the lucky ones in my long-term relationship in that I never had to run anything by her, but all my friends had to get the go-ahead to go for beers or whatever to avoid trouble. The women never had to ask or notify them if they had plans to go do something, and it was just seen as a welcome thing to the guys because that meant a free evening to do what they wanted.

    It's a common stereotype for a reason. People who don't like it will argue that "It's not all women!" or whatever, and that's obvious. Well done.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    I didn't say "Every woman's your daughter/mother/wife".

    Why is it silly? Inconvenient truth?

    What's silly is going on constantly about how awful women are. And even worse is doing so with a wife/daughters.

    Exact same applies to certain women who bitch and moan about men, yet have husbands/sons.

    completely as an aside i don't like it either - reminds me of the types that basically go 'i never realised women were actually people til i had a daughter'


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Crikey, the bleak outlook some have. Thinking of relationships in terms of who is "in control"?

    This is one of the problems with the internet these days... everything is taken as an extreme. Just because I say control, doesn't mean an absolute leader role with the other being subservient.. All relationships have someone who has greater decision making than the other. It's simply something that most couples do. Sometimes it's the male, and sometimes it's the female.

    In my experience, during the dating process, women tend to defer to the guy in making common decisions such as where to eat, or what to do. Whereas in a relationship, it's the woman making most of those decisions. That's not to say the dynamic doesn't change often depending on the type of decisions being made.

    My mum defers to my dad in anything relating to the House and it's maintenance. He defers to her in relation to dealing with their children, although in both cases, sometimes each will step in to voice a disagreement.


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