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Parents found guilty of mutilating one year daughters genitals

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  • #2
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,155 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    the father is subject to a deportation order, which is under appeal. They were denied bail pending sentencing, as they are deemed a flight risk...


  • #3
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    "here's our perfect little innocent bundle of joy...lets cut bits off it!"


  • #4
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Ah yes, this couple claimed their daughter was injured falling on a toy

    Under 3 hours deliberation seems swift to me. The jury saw them as a pair of liers


  • #5
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    We need to send a strong message here with a proper sentence for both parents. Mutilating kids is repugnant and needs to be dealt with harshly.


  • #6
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    We need to send a strong message here with a proper sentence for both parents. Mutilating kids is repugnant and needs to be dealt with harshly.


    Replying to my own post here...


    What are the realistic options here in terms of sentencing? A long custodial one would be fine if not for the fact that there's a child involved. What happens to the child here?


    While I like the second proposal of Still Waters, we don't have any such provisions in our legal system. It's custodial or nothing.


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  • #7
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Replying to my own post here...


    What are the realistic options here in terms of sentencing? A long custodial one would be fine if not for the fact that there's a child involved. What happens to the child here?


    While I like the second proposal of Still Waters, we don't have any such provisions in our legal system. It's custodial or nothing.

    It will be a token sentence that will do nothing to deter other parents with similar values. All it will do is make it less likely they will seek out medical treatment if required.

    What really needs to happen is a change to the antiquated belief that makes parents think mutilation of a child's genitals is ok.


  • #8
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 4,859 ✭✭✭malinheader


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    We need to send a strong message here with a proper sentence for both parents. Mutilating kids is repugnant and needs to be dealt with harshly.

    Sentence the mother and deport him straight away something that should of been done long time ago.


  • #9
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I've said it before that non-EU immigrants should be on a 10 year probation period and if they do **** like that, or any violent/sexual crime, they should be deported and disbarred from reentering the state.


  • #10
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 4,859 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Deportation in this country is a joke.


  • #11
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    There are 3 children, one is younger than the child in question, and the mother is still feeding it, the judge said the prison governor should be informed of this, so it looks like both will get jail time.


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  • #12
    Still waters
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    Will the children be taken off them seeing as they took a knife to one of their children


  • #13
    NewbridgeIR
    Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    The Journal have turned off comments because they don’t want criticism of the parents


  • #14
    strandroad
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    Still waters wrote: »
    Will the children be taken off them seeing as they took a knife to one of their children

    And if they are girls was there a welfare check and examination done to make sure they were not hurt as well?


  • #15
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,198 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I'd like to see them fly...off the cliffs of Moher.

    No. Let's not ruin a fantastic natural beauty spot.


    Let's use a cannon and fire them,





    Into the sun.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #16
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,865 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    We must be culturally aware and submissive to PC at all times now.

    Glad they were convicted. Falling on a toy?

    ok. Not a fkn chance. Jury did good.

    One year suspended is my guess but anyway.


  • #17
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Can the mother's citizenship be revoked? Five year suspended sentence, immediate deportation and barred from re-entry please.


  • #18
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    NewbridgeIR wrote: »
    The Journal have turned off comments because they don’t want criticism of the parents

    Indeed.

    Distilled Media owns both The Journal and Boards.


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
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    NewbridgeIR wrote: »
    The Journal have turned off comments because they don’t want criticism of the parents

    RTÉ haven’t put it on their Facebook either.


  • #20
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Crazy thing is this is this appears very 1st conviction of it's kind in Ire (it's been classed as a criminal offence ever since 2012)
    Yet it likely happens by the hundreds, if not thousands each year, to please their particular twisted skygod.

    Extract from here circa (2015-6): https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/primarycare/socialinclusion/other-areas/domestic-violence/female-genital-mutilation-fgm/
    Since 2011, there have been about 3,780 women living in Ireland known to have undergone the mutilation.
    The level of FGM continues to increase in Ireland. In Africa 3million girls in are at risk annually.

    In 2018, some 'head the ball' said it should be 'made legal' in Ireland.
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/female-circumcision-should-be-allowed-by-law-member-of-irelands-islamic-cultural-centre-36585441.html
    The World Health Organisation states that "the procedure has no health benefits for girls and women".


  • #21
    HorrorScope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭HorrorScope


    This should be punishable by a minimum of 15 years in prison at the least, mutilating a young child because you are a dark age **** is not an acceptable excuse :mad:


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
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    Would this set precedence for male circumcision as well?


  • #23
    niallers1
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭niallers1


    Is male circumcision still practiced in this country?


  • #24
    niallers1
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭niallers1


    HorrorScope wrote: »
    This should be punishable by a minimum of 15 years in prison at the least, mutilating a young child because you are a dark age **** is not an acceptable excuse :mad:


    Is male circumcision still practiced in this country?


  • #25
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    I've said it before that non-EU immigrants should be on a 10 year probation period and if they do **** like that, or any violent/sexual crime, they should be deported and disbarred from reentering the state.


    That's perfectly reasonable. I've lived almost 40 years in this country and no once have I committed any violent crimes or cut any child's genitals off. Maybe I'm just lucky but I think that my experience is shared by most people. It's not hard to avoid doing those things.


    There's also no reason that we can't add non-violent offenses like fraud to that too.


  • #26
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,865 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    niallers1 wrote: »
    Is male circumcision still practiced in this country?

    Possibly amongst certain religious communities, or for health reasons. However I would imagine it is done in a hospital setting.

    Doesn't compare with FGM in someone's living room though. Ah but she is a female. Forgot that.


  • #27
    katiek102010
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭katiek102010


    niallers1 wrote: »
    Is male circumcision still practiced in this country?

    Only in medical necessity, which is extremely rare


  • #28
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Ads by Google wrote: »
    Would this set precedence for male circumcision as well?


    I would hope so. Cutting bits off kids isn't cool. With the exception of medical reasons, of course.


  • #29
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    What kind of savage looks at their poor little baby girl and thinks it’s time to take a blade to it ?? This needs a severe sentence to discourage it being established in our new Irish community


  • #30
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Ads by Google wrote: »
    Would this set precedence for male circumcision as well?

    It's only allowed in hospitals afaik


    https://www.rte.ie/amp/68368/
    In directing the jury, Judge Kevin Haugh said that they could not bring what he called their white western values to bear when they were deciding this case.


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  • #31
    TuringBot47
    Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    I know other countries have "tests" that you understand the countries culture.
    As far as I know America have a sort of written/oral test, probably on basic geographic and the legal system.

    If another "alien"/non-EU cultured person wants to enter Ireland to claim political/economic asylum they should be made fully aware of, and tested on their understanding of, the law and culture of Ireland. If they're not happy with it, no problem, send them back.

    If you want your native culture, stay in your own country.
    Otherwise you have to accept our.... and it's not even "culture", it's basic human rights... Don't carve up your children.


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