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What kind of an idiot takes heroin?

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  • #32
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    CaptainToenail wrote: »
    I mean in this day and age, if you take heroin, you deserve what's coming to you.

    You should read up on the American opioid issue, most of them were prescribed painkillers by pharma trained professionals and ended up taking heroin


  • #33
    CaptainToenail
    Site Banned Posts: 7 ✭CaptainToenail


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    You should read up on the American opioid issue, most of them were prescribed painkillers by pharma trained professionals and ended up taking heroin

    This isn't America. In Ireland to get Oxycontin, you need 2 doctors to sign off on it.


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
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    Guess theyre ok with diving down the filthiest toilets in Scotland and elsewhere.

    Just remember to have the Mars bar on hand for the cone down and the tremendous constipation.


  • #35
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    "Man," said the Ghost, "if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered what the surplus is, and where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be that in the sight of Heaven you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man's child. O God! to hear the insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust!"


  • #36
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    You should read up on the American opioid issue, most of them were prescribed painkillers by pharma trained professionals and ended up taking heroin

    Yes there's a huge epidemic of opioid abuse (and not your stereotypical 'drug addict' demographic either).

    Highly addictive, medically and legally available, usually cheaper than heroin, can be lethal in small doses too. Some people not realising just how addictive their prescription meds are until its too late.


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  • #37
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    CaptainToenail wrote: »
    This isn't America. In Ireland to get Oxycontin, you need 2 doctors to sign off on it.

    Or...go see Deco around Christchurch. Tell him Deebles sent ya...


  • #38
    CaptainToenail
    Site Banned Posts: 7 ✭CaptainToenail


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Or...go see Deco around Christchurch. Tell him Deebles sent ya...

    Ah jaysususususus.


  • #39
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,364 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I can see where the op is coming from.

    I appreciate that you'd need to be at a low ebb to not worry about descending into a drugs hell, but if anyone out there is thinking "I know what'll improve things now for the better, some heroin", then they aren't too clever.


  • #40
    corner of hells
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    CaptainToenail wrote: »
    This isn't America. In Ireland to get Oxycontin, you need 2 doctors to sign off on it.

    How does that work ?
    A GP will prescribe oxynorm, targin, codeine based meds without needing a second signature?


  • #41
    tdf7187
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    The stereotype of the junkie in Ireland and the UK is very definitely of someone from the wrong side of the tracks and someone who you would steer clear of if they approached you for change at a bus-stop. While this stereotype is perhaps largely true, there are and have been upper class heroin addicts also. See for example this article from Anthony Haden-Guest (the model, apparently, for Peter Fallow in Bonfire of the Vanities):

    http://therealanthonyhadenguest.com/articles.htm


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  • #42
    corner of hells
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    tdf7187 wrote: »
    The stereotype of the junkie in Ireland and the UK is very definitely of someone from the wrong side of the tracks and someone who you would steer clear of if they approached you for change at a bus-stop. While this stereotype is perhaps largely true, there are and have been upper class heroin addicts also. See for example this article from Anthony Haden-Guest (the model, apparently, for Peter Fallow in Bonfire of the Vanities):

    http://therealanthonyhadenguest.com/articles.htm

    I worked in needle exchanges/droo in centres for a while and you be absolutely astonished at the cross section of society that attends them.
    From rough sleeping addicts to educated professionals.


  • #43
    Raconteuse
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    People from a comfortable happy stable background with a loving family and doing heroin - not exactly brimming with sympathy for them. That's rare though I'd say.

    But people who have been through horrific, deprived childhoods like a guy on the Peter McVerry documentary (who was on the streets from age 9), much more understandable. It's an escape from hell.


  • #44
    tdf7187
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    I worked in needle exchanges/droo in centres for a while and you be absolutely astonished at the cross section of society that attends them.
    From rough sleeping addicts to educated professionals.

    Interesting. An acquaintance from a relatively privileged background in Monkstown told me he was aware of people of his generation from similarly privileged backgrounds getting in trouble with h back in the 1980s.


  • #45
    tdf7187
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    Raconteuse wrote: »
    People from a comfortable happy stable background with a loving family and doing heroin - not exactly brimming with sympathy for them. That's rare though I'd say.

    But people who have been through horrific, deprived childhoods like a guy on the Peter McVerry documentary (who was on the streets from age 9), much more understandable. It's an escape from hell.

    I don't disagree, but I suspect some of the upper and middle class addicts are from backgrounds that are ostensibly privileged but actually abusive, whether psychologically or worse.


  • #46
    corner of hells
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    tdf7187 wrote: »
    I don't disagree, but I suspect some of the upper and middle class addicts are from backgrounds that are ostensibly privileged but actually abusive, whether psychologically or worse.

    You just don't know what goes on behind closed doors, it doesn't matter what your postal code is.


  • #47
    El_Duderino 09
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Anyone I've ever met who took heroin was usually dealing with some traumatic stuff in their past.

    Yeah, what idiots. Apparently they deserve anything they have coming to them.

    Christ, some people have no compassion. Luckily, most people aren’t like the OP.

    I imagine people who do it were deeply unhappy to begin with and it offers short term relief - along with all the misery it brings.


  • #48
    Raconteuse
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    tdf7187 wrote: »
    I don't disagree, but I suspect some of the upper and middle class addicts are from backgrounds that are ostensibly privileged but actually abusive, whether psychologically or worse.
    Prime example: the titular character of the Patrick Melrose books by Edward St Aubyn (made into an excellent TV series starring Benedict Cumberbatch). Apparently autobiographical. Super rich but appalling childhood abuse.


  • #49
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    What kind of an idiot takes heroin?

    A lot of victims of child sexual abuse end up taking it or more crack nowadays.

    It numbs out every emotion and fear and even thought and replaces it with a feeling of numb cosiness.

    Its the perfect solution to ptsd. Only its so addictive.


  • #50
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    How does that work ?
    A GP will prescribe oxynorm, targin, codeine based meds without needing a second signature?

    Interested to know too, two signatures definitely not required for codeine, solpadol, tramadol etc and benzos are another big crisis - again available on prescription no second signature required there either.


  • #51
    Raconteuse
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    It can also stem from addiction to pain relief medication.


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  • #52
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    It can also stem from addiction to pain relief medication.
    It would have to be cancer level pain medication.

    Anyway im told the feeling is not the same.

    Heroine makes you feel intensely calm.


  • #53
    Widdershins
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    Im finding it hard to believe a gp would prescribe anything above tramadol without the oversight of a specialist. Opioid are strictly regulated in Ireland. Also benzodiazepines...since when would a go prescribe them in the first place?
    The initial prescription would come from a psychiatrist, after an assessment; no?


  • #54
    tdf7187
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    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Prime example: the titular character of the Patrick Melrose books by Edward St Aubyn (made into an excellent TV series starring Benedict Cumberbatch). Apparently autobiographical. Super rich but appalling childhood abuse.

    Indeed. I was trying to think of the name of that author.


  • #55
    Rubberchikken
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    i didnt realise thete wete varying degrees of idiot.
    fools do drugs. losers do drugs. tossers with no respect for themselves do drugs.
    just my opinion mind.


  • #56
    TallGlass2
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    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    it’s a basic coping mechanism for many’s the tortured soul op,to get through another tough day in a life of hell, and inch one step closer to death where they will be finally free from whatever it is that is causing their torture and suffering.

    God be with them and be grateful yourself for all that is well in your own life.

    If you walked a mile in their shoes I’m sure you would understand them better.

    I don't suppose your the host of a show on RTE by any chance? He is on between, 1:45 and 3PM on RTE Radio 1, I believe his name is Joe Duffy. Isn't yourself is it.


  • #57
    pgj2015
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    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    i didnt realise thete wete varying degrees of idiot.
    fools do drugs. losers do drugs. tossers with no respect for themselves do drugs.
    just my opinion mind.




    stupid opinion, just my opinion.


  • #58
    corner of hells
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    It would have to be cancer level pain medication.

    Anyway im told the feeling is not the same.

    Heroine makes you feel intensely calm.

    I've worked with addicts who became addicted to nurofen plus and solpedeine first before ending up addicted to heroin.


  • #59
    The high horse brigade
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    Widdershins wrote: »
    Im finding it hard to believe a gp would prescribe anything above tramadol without the oversight of a specialist. Opioid are strictly regulated in Ireland. Also benzodiazepines...since when would a go prescribe them in the first place?
    The initial prescription would come from a psychiatrist, after an assessment; no?

    Doctors prescribe benzodiazepines all the time, valium, Xanax, librium


  • #60
    Sheridan81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Sheridan81


    Heroin addicts are just trying to be cooler in an obvious way. They get their couple of piercings and decide maybe they're gay. It's dumb.


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  • #61
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    i didnt realise thete wete varying degrees of idiot.
    fools do drugs. losers do drugs. tossers with no respect for themselves do drugs.
    just my opinion mind.


    A lot of addicts on wall st ...you might want to rethink that.


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