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General Premier League Thread 2019-20

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Ah I'm not accusing him of faking injury. I'm thinking more, madrid bound, and ole seems like the kind of guy who would only play someone who wants to play.

    That'll be united with no "big names" then?

    I would consider De Gea a big name

    If United could get rid of him for good money in January it would make sense if the money was invested you could probably get two or three players for the money who would improve the first 11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    I would consider De Gea a big name

    Yep would agree, slipped my mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    One third of the season is gone already!

    It's been a weird one so far with teams of modest ambition thriving and a number of big clubs with european football in their sights struggling for various reasons but mainly manager related in the short term.

    Liverpool top by 8 points and not with Man City 2nd is unexpected that's for sure. The real work starts now for the Reds though. Leicester must be laughing, a brilliant transfer summer with Rodgers turning the Foxes from pure counter attack to something more rounded. Chelsea are also a surprise, a bit naive but full of beans it may not get them to the Champions League but they'll be there or thereabouts. Looking past Man City who will surely find consistency, Wolves are thriving one win to reach EL knockout stages and yet now best of the rest after a punishing schedule.

    Behind them is the most congested "midtable" I can remember at this stage of a season. Amazing mix of big club mediocrity and solid work from far less resourced sides all of whom have been taking points off one another - a few could well get dragged into relegation danger. Palace and Newcastle need to find goals with just 11 scored. Of the fallen giants Arsenal and Spurs will probably drag themselves out of the pack but I'd not bet anything on it. Man Utd should do the decent thing and find a manager but it may need to get worse before they act. Everton will surely change manager very soon.

    Then the three sides that will probably be going down. Norwich's shock win over Everton is not the start of a turnaround, Soton just look all wrong - poor signings, aging core squad, a very spotty attack which is basically Danny Ings. The only good news is the next 5 games are all winnable or at least not obviously hard. Watford's change of management hasn't worked, holding Spurs, Bournemouth and beating Norwich wasn't the start of a turnaround regardless of goals conceded they're just not scoring - 8 goals is 5 fewer than the two sides above them. The bottom three's negative goal difference is almost twice as bad as any other side.

    Champions League - Liverpool, Man City, Leicester City, Chelsea
    Europa League - Spurs, Arsenal (but maybe Wolves and/or Man Utd)
    Relegation - Norwich, Soton, Watford.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Pogba is on strike and some people can't find fault with him. Everyone knows he's leaving and won't play another game for the club. Let's just keep up the session he's a saviour though eh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    The longer Pogba doesn't play, when United are doing poor, he looks better and better. This period of him missing matches & United losing/drawing is doing wonders for his image.

    People have short memories. He was chronic bad at the end of last season, and a couple of passes against Chelsea aside, was poor this season too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    brinty wrote: »
    Pogba is on strike and some people can't find fault with him. Everyone knows he's leaving and won't play another game for the club. Let's just keep up the session he's a saviour though eh

    On strike?! Lol

    He got a cast off last week. Do you expect him to play straight away?

    The pogba hate is laughable at this stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    FitzShane wrote: »
    The longer Pogba doesn't play, when United are doing poor, he looks better and better. This period of him missing matches & United losing/drawing is doing wonders for his image.

    People have short memories. He was chronic bad at the end of last season, and a couple of passes against Chelsea aside, was poor this season too.

    He is our best player by a mile and is a huge loss to the team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Ah I'm not accusing him of faking injury. I'm thinking more, madrid bound, and ole seems like the kind of guy who would only play someone who wants to play.

    That'll be united with no "big names" then?

    Did you not hear the news?

    All these players who happen to be senior players and the biggest names at the club who want to leave, are ones United don’t want. It’s not that they think United is a sinking ship and Ole as manager is a joke, it’s that United are in control and making informed football decisions and it starts from the top with our best man crunching the numbers.

    United are going to revolutionise how clubs are run by doing the exact opposite to every successful club. Sell off their best players, buy youth, reduce wage bill, make no change to the failed footballing strategy that’s wasted over a billion and hire an unproven manager who was a popular player. We are following that famous mantra “if at first you don’t succeed just throw sh*t at a wall”.

    You may laugh now but in 5-10 years time when it might pay off , United fans will be the ones who will be potentially laughing. Smoke that in your pipe , man united hating rival fans.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    bangkok wrote: »
    He is our best player by a mile and is a huge loss to the team

    I've just had a look at the last 20 games United have played in the league. Pogba started in 12 of those, and was missing for 8 of those. United have a bad record across them 20 games, but have won more games without him than with him, in less games.

    With Pogba: P12 W2 D5 L5
    Without Pogba: P8 W3 D2 L3

    Now of course, I'm not saying that is solely down to him at all. There are other factors such as teams played, home & away, other players not available etc. But across those 20 games, it's a big enough sample size to suggest he does not make as big of a difference to this United team as you suggest.

    You sound like you are just turning a blind eye to those poor performances this season, like against Palace (at fault for Palace scoring the winner), was terrible against Southampton repeatedly giving the ball away - MEN gave him a rating of 3/10, Wolves missing the penalty and Arsenal wasn't fit to be fair. This poor run also runs back to the last third of last season - terrible against relegated Cardiff (where OT fans were giving him abuse after the game for that reason), and relegated Huddersfield, Everton in that famous 4-0 loss, and Watford.

    That's a long list of consistent poor performances in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,253 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    bangkok wrote: »
    He is our best player by a mile and is a huge loss to the team

    De Gea is United's best player.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    https://twitter.com/OfficialBHAFC/status/1199357199434362882

    He only joined in the summer, so why the need to sign a new contract? My guess is Everton were on the phone to him/the club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,548 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Trigger wrote: »
    If you have a PM address, you can just change it yourself..

    Account>devices and content>Preferences>Region and put your PM address in there.

    One thing though, if you have Prime household set up, they all need to have the same address so the PM address will need to be set on each of those. It will probably knock the household off but it's pretty straightforward to set it back up

    Surely that doesn't work?

    There's been threads where PPL have to beg Amazon to accept their case to manually change region so they get UK prime video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,173 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    FitzShane wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/OfficialBHAFC/status/1199357199434362882

    He only joined in the summer, so why the need to sign a new contract? My guess is Everton were on the phone to him/the club.

    I had literally no idea who their manager was until now


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    noodler wrote: »
    Surely that doesn't work?

    There's been threads where PPL have to beg Amazon to accept their case to manually change region so they get UK prime video

    Works for me anyways, I watch on the xbox too and no vpn needed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Manchester City Football Group have sold 10% of themselves to an American tech based investor company who are branching out. About 400m quid raised so that'll buy a defender and maybe Mbappe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Manchester City Football Group have sold 10% of themselves to an American tech based investor company who are branching out. About 400m quid raised so that'll buy a defender and maybe Mbappe!


    An American tech based investor you say. I wonder what ties he/she/it has to the UAE?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Manchester City Football Group have sold 10% of themselves to an American tech based investor company who are branching out. About 400m quid raised so that'll buy a defender and maybe Mbappe!

    Some money to get and another work around for ffp.

    Can def see them signing Mbappe next summer if he doesnt go to madrid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    gimli2112 wrote:
    An American tech based investor you say. I wonder what ties he/she/it has to the UAE?

    Hmmmmmmmmm
    Reeks of bitter lemon...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Schwiiing


    Manchester City Football Group have sold 10% of themselves to an American tech based investor company who are branching out. About 400m quid raised so that'll buy a defender and maybe Mbappe!


    Who would value Man City @ £4billion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Schwiiing wrote:
    Who would value Man City @ £4billion?


    UAE investment fund


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Well it's obviously a mad number, AFAIK there is a standard business multiplier, turnover v value of about x5 which would put them at about 2.7 billion on the latest figures (535m x 5)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Well it's obviously a mad number, AFAIK there is a standard business multiplier, turnover v value of about x5 which would put them at about 2.7 billion on the latest figures (535m x 5)

    Its man city. Just like psg and chelsea, corrupt to the core


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    An American tech based investor you say. I wonder what ties he/she/it has to the UAE?

    Maybe looking to make friends with the Chinese Government who also own 13% of City.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You'd have to have a heart of stone not to get a good old guffaw out of the predicament of Arsenal and ManU.

    It's also amusing to see the whole Premier League undermined by Man City's "we have about 35,000 fans in the world, but remarkably some crowd value this plaything owned by a group accused of genocide and sportswashing at 10 gazillion".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    bangkok wrote: »
    Its man city. Just like psg and chelsea, corrupt to the core

    If we dont talk about United or Jose Mourihno I think we get along fine . . :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Awful stink of bitter lemons in here today, bet those complaining would have no problem with it if it was they're own club, and anyone saying they wouldn't are flat out liars and deluding no one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭Potential Underachiever


    brinty wrote: »
    Hmmmmmmmmm
    Reeks of bitter lemon...
    brinty wrote: »
    Awful stink of bitter lemons in here today, bet those complaining would have no problem with it if it was they're own club, and anyone saying they wouldn't are flat out liars and delisting no one.


    Have you been eating lemons? Could be your own breath blowing back in your face.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    brinty wrote: »
    Awful stink of bitter lemons in here today, bet those complaining would have no problem with it if it was they're own club, and anyone saying they wouldn't are flat out liars and deluding no one.

    Plenty in the Leeds thread saying "no thanks" to links with the PSG Qatari owners, also linked to Human Rights abuses. Only an eejit would put the success of a football club before concerns about humanitarian issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    not complaining just find it amusing they're so bad at hiding it, although this one just looks fishy. It's like the time the national Airline paid them an outrageous sum of money for some sponsorship deal. I'd be outraged if financial fair play was a thing but it's not really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,902 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    Who would value Man City @ £4billion?

    City now worth 60% more than Utd.
    Seems logical ...

    Such a corrupt club


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