Were people in RTE always disliked or is it a new thing? thing?

nkl12xtw5goz70 · 27-11-2019 10:14AM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

RTE try and justify his salary by saying that similar positions in other countries would be paid similarly...which may be so however tubs wouldn't get a job sweeping the floor elsewhere so if he thinks he's so valuable, let him go elsewhere and see what he can get.

Only a handful of top presenters at the BBC, such as Gary Lineker, Graham Norton, and Huw Edwards, earn more than Tubridy — and they broadcast to a population approx 14 times the size of Ireland's.

Can RTE provide us with a list of countries with populations under 5 million where TV and radio presenters can earn nearly half a million a year?

Tubridy has already done stints on BBC Radio 2 and admitted that he found it challenging to connect with a British audience. Steve Wright and Zoe Ball are hardly worrying about him strolling in to take their jobs.

27-11-2019 10:38AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You're really asking this question? The level of talent has plummeted off a cliff in the past twenty years, while salaries have escalated to absurd levels.

The auld begrudgery argument doesn't hold up.

Who were the talented people in RTE twenty years ago?

nthclare · 27-11-2019 10:41AM

It's the outright nepotism in RTE which grinds my gears.

And they way they're almost fake and talk to people as if they're a bunch of langers or idiot's.

There was a lot of mixed personalities and people from all over the country working on RTE back in the mid 90's back to the early day's of RTE

Dave Fanning would probably be my favourite personality who graced the doors of RTE

Bohemian type's, rocker's, new romanticism, flamboyance, quirky, jocks, culchies, dubs, pretty women, handsome men.

And there was a good balance of men and women, gay, straight, lesbian they all made RTE colorful.

I think Phillip Tyler could have had an amazing future on TV but I could be wrong but I read somewhere he passed away.

Some Bosco presenters got lucky , especially Marrion, I think Frank Twomey ended up trying to do stand up comedy.
I remember him introducing comedy acts in the comedy club in Gorbys Cork City in the 90's

There's different memories of RTE but I think the old school tallent was fantastic.

I'm into, society culture, history, nature and heritage myself so I suppose that's where I'm coming from with my conclusions.

Sadly we've a nation addicted to reality TV, pure narcissistic nonsense and they're so gullible they'ed swallow a brick.

With all the money the useless talent are earning and the Emperor's New Clothes culture we're living in, you can be dam sure these people are going to fight to the bitter end to hold onto their salaries, because they're mortgages, car's and lifestyles would be decimated if they had to take a huge cut...

They're all in it together,and rightly so that's the way the cookies crumble...

IM SLIGHTLY DYSLEXIC, SO I HOPE PEOPLE CAN READ MY POST AND UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM

Boggles · 27-11-2019 10:50AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

The top BBC shows are syndicated all over the world while the majority of RTEs programmes aren't shown outside of this island.

Do you think that may have anything to do with BBC having revenues of nearly 5 billion pounds?

The cost for the BBC Online website and the red button service is £290.3 million

Roughly RTE's entire budget.

Fair comparison all right. :rolleyes:

Your Face · 27-11-2019 11:01AM

For me it's a case for there being a lot of dislikeable people in primetime positions on RTE.
I like RTE as a whole.

nthclare · 27-11-2019 11:09AM

Your Face wrote: »

For me it's a case for there being a lot of dislikeable people in primetime positions on RTE.
I like RTE as a whole.

Lol a whole that should be filled in and top dressed with greener pastures...

Richard Hillman · 27-11-2019 11:10AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

What annoys me is when the likes of Tubridy or D'Arcys salary are questioned we're told, either from them or management in RTE, it's justified because they'd get multiples of that working in England and they're doing us some sort of a favour working here.
I couldn't see either of them working on more than regional radio stations over there.
As if the BBC would shaft Graham Norton in favour of Ray D'Arcy.
Their salaries are simply not justified in a market the size of Ireland. The top BBC shows are syndicated all over the world while the majority of RTEs programmes aren't shown outside of this island.

You look at somebody like Dan Walker. Mainly Presents BBC Breakfast, his full time gig but also does Match of the Day, the Olympics, Football tournaments every second year, The One Show. He gets £280k a year.

For that price we get Marian Finucane. Works a part time job, 2 days a week but thats all she does, no other shows. Seems to have an absurd amount of holidays.

Marian Finucane would be lucky to get a job in the BBC Canteen on minimum wage.

whisky_galore · 27-11-2019 11:13AM

McGaggs wrote: »

No, I can confirm that as a toyshow watching kid, I hated Gaybo.

The old showbiz adage, don't ever work with children or animals.

Most adults come off looking either awkward or condescending in that situation.

KWAG2019 · 27-11-2019 11:18AM

RTE suffers from far too much self regard. Their “stars” are not worth it. It’s a propaganda channel at best churning out formulaic garbage. It believes its mission is to preach down to the great unwashed. That’s you and me.

nkl12xtw5goz70 · 27-11-2019 11:27AM

The average age profile for RTE's "stars" seems a lot older these days. Marian Finucane is 69, Sean O'Rourke is 64, and Joe Duffy is almost 64. Miriam O'Callaghan is almost 60, Bryan Dobson is 59, and Ray D'Arcy is 55. Even RTE's "young" talent like Tubridy and Claire Byrne are in their mid-40s.

It's easy, then, for a 25-year-old to look at RTE and feel that it's an older person's network that doesn't cater well to younger people.

nthclare · 27-11-2019 11:31AM

Forrest Square Gumdrop wrote: »

The average age profile for RTE's "stars" seems a lot older these days. Marian Finucane is 69, Sean O'Rourke is 64, and Joe Duffy is almost 64. Miriam O'Callaghan is almost 60, Bryan Dobson is 59, and Ray D'Arcy is 55. Even RTE's "young" talent like Tubridy and Claire Byrne are in their mid-40s.

It's easy, then, for a 25-year-old to look at RTE and feel that it's an older person's network that doesn't cater well to younger people.

It doesn't cater for the middle ages either.

I suppose they've the older generation indoctrinated already....

Hail the St Bridget's cross

Your Face · 27-11-2019 11:38AM

nthclare wrote: »

Lol a whole that should be filled in and top dressed with greener pastures...

Perhaps you meant 'hole'.

27-11-2019 11:41AM

Forrest Square Gumdrop wrote: »

The average age profile for RTE's "stars" seems a lot older these days. Marian Finucane is 69, Sean O'Rourke is 64, and Joe Duffy is almost 64. Miriam O'Callaghan is almost 60, Bryan Dobson is 59, and Ray D'Arcy is 55. Even RTE's "young" talent like Tubridy and Claire Byrne are in their mid-40s.

It's easy, then, for a 25-year-old to look at RTE and feel that it's an older person's network that doesn't cater well to younger people.

25 year old are not interested in traditional media, how many 25 year old subscribe to the New york times for example?

Boggles · 27-11-2019 11:42AM

Forrest Square Gumdrop wrote: »

The average age profile for RTE's "stars" seems a lot older these days. Marian Finucane is 69, Sean O'Rourke is 64, and Joe Duffy is almost 64. Miriam O'Callaghan is almost 60, Bryan Dobson is 59, and Ray D'Arcy is 55. Even RTE's "young" talent like Tubridy and Claire Byrne are in their mid-40s.

It's easy, then, for a 25-year-old to look at RTE and feel that it's an older person's network that doesn't cater well to younger people.

Half of them are news and current affairs and are popular and extremely good at their job (Apart from Miriam, can't stand her), it's an age bracket replicated across the private networks and in the UK.

If a 25 year old is not engaging with politics or current affairs it's very little to do with the age of the presenter.

nthclare · 27-11-2019 11:46AM

Can anyone remember when St Bridget's Cross was the symbol of RTE ?

And they still have a sectarian prayer time at 6pm

27-11-2019 11:52AM

nthclare wrote: »

Can anyone remember when St Bridget's Cross was the symbol of RTE ?

And they still have a sectarian prayer time at 6pm

A good example of how RTE can be the repoitriy of everyone projected predigests and how its a hotbed of catholicism and full of pro-abortion leftists att the same time.

Anti-abortion protesters use to protests regularly from the 1980s on, outside RTE, because according to the protesters RTE supported abortion, while simultaneously there was a campaign to get catholic symbols off the screen becaue of the influence of the catholic church on RTE.

nthclare · 27-11-2019 12:03PM

I wonder was it true that they deleted and dumped a lot of archive's.

I heard or read somewhere about someone commenting about people lacking interest in some dude or lady weaving a wicker basket on on island of the west coast...

I'd prefer to learn about willow weaving than what some z list Grafton Street stomper is wearing for Christmas, compliments of Brown Thomas.

Although I'm a hypocrite,as I bought a Bellstaf biker jacket there last year, and I'd happily wrap it around a beach ball and kick it up and down Inch beach in Kerry until it's well worn and battered looking

chrissb8 · 27-11-2019 01:49PM

-Nepotism.

-Vogue Williams

-Linda Martin

-An unwillingness to honestly appraise the talent of their staff and realise that most of them are useless, charmless and quite frankly fairly stupid considering some of the areas these people arrogantly go into and think they can do a good job. Think mediocre presenters who clearly haven't brushed up on knowledge about a big guest on their show and asking useless middle of the road questions.

-Remakes of shows from across the pond with an Irish spin. Usually awful. Usually pathetic.

-A really really poor line of just awful awful RTE produced crap. Dermot Bannon (useless, boring and soulless architecture) being a recent one I can think of. I know already mentioned but, Vogue Williams doing investigative pieces (wtf?), Ireland's fittest family, Living with Lucy...You get it anyway. Just tripe being served on a regular basis. Who wants these shows? No one. It's frustrating how wide of the mark they are.

-Terrible sports coverage of prominent Irish Athletes. No one is asking to watch an Irish table tennis champ but we sure could have done with watching Katie Taylor alot more over the years.

-The gross wages some of the staff are on in there. While doing absolutely nothing to warrant or justify that wage.

-Ryan Tubirdy, tries far too hard to be this suave charming man. He just puts me on edge and makes me cringe at the forced "banter". You can tell when there's a natural rhythm/rapport with guests and the crowd. Graham Norton being an excellent example and Ryan Tubirdy, not so much.

-Marian Finucane. I think most of her shows are her taking 5 minutes each time to finish one sentence. You can tell her age across the airwaves, she's picked up that dithering, next word gonna come to my mind any minute now speech thing that happens to some people as they get older. She needs to retire, pure and simple she's not able for it anymore.

It is an embaressment to national broadcasting. That's why the hate from me anyway.

Also cutting movies at really bad timings!

The f***ing Angelus. What progressive inclusive society needs that.

Bunch of old farts in there that need the boot and a good shaking up of the whole thing.

Sky King · 27-11-2019 02:32PM

Does anyone have an accurate figure for how many hours Marian actually works for her €300k salary?

Officially the show is 4 hours a week but Brendan O Connor seems to be filling in for her half the time.

300 grand for what is cumulatively about 3 weeks work is a nice oul gig alright. 100k a week. Not bad.

boombang · 27-11-2019 02:41PM

Forrest Square Gumdrop wrote: »

Only a handful of top presenters at the BBC, such as Gary Lineker, Graham Norton, and Huw Edwards, earn more than Tubridy — and they broadcast to a population approx 14 times the size of Ireland's.

Excellent observation.

Separately, the shocking standards on RTE constantly bug me. Irish people have great wit and canniness about them: we should have some of the most engaging, funny TV stars going, but it's clearly not the case.

One eyed Jack · 27-11-2019 02:54PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm in my late twenties now When I was at school there was the odd thing about Gay Byrne, Pat Kenny, an Anne Doyle joke, etc.
However I don't think there was the dislike there compared to now that you hear about Ray Darcy, Ryan Turbidy, Eoghan McDermott, Garrihy's, etc.
Is it we are all jealous people now and can't praise people or has the standards dropped or were people in RTE always disliked/criticised?

People in RTÉ were always disliked and criticised. Gerry Ryan was like fcuking marmite - people either loved him or couldn’t stand him, but at least back then there was Arthur Murphy’s weekly Mailbag show which aired feedback both positive and negative, on the content of RTE that week. There isn’t that outlet any more, the criticism gets lost in a sea of mediocre shìte.

whisky_galore · 27-11-2019 03:01PM

nthclare wrote: »

I wonder was it true that they deleted and dumped a lot of archive's.

I heard or read somewhere about someone commenting about people lacking interest in some dude or lady weaving a wicker basket on on island of the west coast...

I'd prefer to learn about willow weaving than what some z list Grafton Street stomper is wearing for Christmas, compliments of Brown Thomas.

Although I'm a hypocrite,as I bought a Bellstaf biker jacket there last year, and I'd happily wrap it around a beach ball and kick it up and down Inch beach in Kerry until it's well worn and battered looking

A lot of the tapes for old shows were taped over so there's no full archive of things like Wanderly Wagon.

I think there may be something that prevents them from showing archive stuff with actors still living in case they have to pay them royalties or some such, a shame because there's heaps of stuff that will never see the light of day until theoretically everyone featured in them is dead.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 27-11-2019 03:02PM

topmanamillion wrote: »

What annoys me is when the likes of Tubridy or D'Arcys salary are questioned we're told, either from them or management in RTE, it's justified because they'd get multiples of that working in England and they're doing us some sort of a favour working here.
I couldn't see either of them working on more than regional radio stations over there.
As if the BBC would shaft Graham Norton in favour of Ray D'Arcy.
Their salaries are simply not justified in a market the size of Ireland. The top BBC shows are syndicated all over the world while the majority of RTEs programmes aren't shown outside of this island.

You think it's bad now. 10 years ago just after the crash Pat Kenny was earning €950,000, almost €1m. Tubridy was earning around €600k along with Joe Duffy etc for what was perceived as not even being a full weeks work.

Arghus · 27-11-2019 06:18PM

Sky King wrote: »

Does anyone have an accurate figure for how many hours Marian actually works for her €300k salary?

Officially the show is 4 hours a week but Brendan O Connor seems to be filling in for her half the time.

300 grand for what is cumulatively about 3 weeks work is a nice oul gig alright. 100k a week. Not bad.

As much as I think presenters pay are only some of the problems the station currently faces, that one in particular made me double-take when I read it first. Of all of them on massive cash, hers is by far the most ridiculous.

Ash.J.Williams · 27-11-2019 06:21PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm in my late twenties now When I was at school there was the odd thing about Gay Byrne, Pat Kenny, an Anne Doyle joke, etc.
However I don't think there was the dislike there compared to now that you hear about Ray Darcy, Ryan Turbidy, Eoghan McDermott, Garrihy's, etc.
Is it we are all jealous people now and can't praise people or has the standards dropped or were people in RTE always disliked/criticised?

i loved RTE as a kid, then they tried to emulate every fad in the UK and died and death. Paying tubs a half mill a year to waffle for 30mins a day and then interview someone ??

He's ****e on the LLS too but he's there so long it's almost become acceptable.

Agricola · 27-11-2019 06:32PM

Arghus wrote: »

As much as I think presenters pay are only some of the problems the station currently faces, that one in particular made me double-take when I read it first. Of all of them on massive cash, hers is by far the most ridiculous.

By far. She's another case of jobs for the girls. RTE antique furniture that no one is going to get rid of. Roll in for a couple of hours over the weekend, get handed the newspapers and proceed to chat about them with (hopefully) better informed people than herself. 300k! And thats after big cuts since the recession. In contrast Tubridy seems good value. Pure joke.

fluke · 27-11-2019 07:16PM

The LLS is a microcosm of RTE, uninspired research and full of RTE sycophants.

Tea Shock · 27-11-2019 07:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You're really asking this question? The level of talent has plummeted off a cliff in the past twenty years, while salaries have escalated to absurd levels.

The auld begrudgery argument doesn't hold up.

I can't really think of much talent that was there 20 years ago either!

Gay was far superior to Tubs or D'arcy

Gerry Ryan was good but only when confined to radio - I found him awkward on TV

But that's more or less it, is it not?

nkl12xtw5goz70 · 27-11-2019 07:32PM

Dave Fanning was good on the radio at one time.

Not sure what happened to him.

Muahahaha · 27-11-2019 07:39PM

Sky King wrote: »

Does anyone have an accurate figure for how many hours Marian actually works for her €300k salary?

Officially the show is 4 hours a week but Brendan O Connor seems to be filling in for her half the time.

300 grand for what is cumulatively about 3 weeks work is a nice oul gig alright. 100k a week. Not bad.

Theres plenty of Premier League footballers who dont get paid 100k a week. She is on an incredible wage when you calculate it by the hours put in

Agricola wrote: »

By far. She's another case of jobs for the girls. RTE antique furniture that no one is going to get rid of. Roll in for a couple of hours over the weekend, get handed the newspapers and proceed to chat about them with (hopefully) better informed people than herself. 300k! And thats after big cuts since the recession. In contrast Tubridy seems good value. Pure joke.

This. I get the impression that Marion just rocks up 15 minutes before she is due on air and her researchers hand her a sheet of topical talking points and the newspapers. When listening in you always feel the discussion is just a bit of a laugh. I can also imagine Marian sneaking a quick fag out the fire exit during the news slot. Then its off to the pub for some wine by 1.30pm.

Were people in RTE always disliked or is it a new thing? thing?

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