Were people in RTE always disliked or is it a new thing? thing?

freshpopcorn · 26-11-2019 09:01PM #1

I'm in my late twenties now When I was at school there was the odd thing about Gay Byrne, Pat Kenny, an Anne Doyle joke, etc.
However I don't think there was the dislike there compared to now that you hear about Ray Darcy, Ryan Turbidy, Eoghan McDermott, Garrihy's, etc.
Is it we are all jealous people now and can't praise people or has the standards dropped or were people in RTE always disliked/criticised?

26-11-2019 09:12PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Is it we are all jealous people now and can't praise people or has the standards dropped or were people in RTE always disliked/criticised?

You're really asking this question? The level of talent has plummeted off a cliff in the past twenty years, while salaries have escalated to absurd levels.

The auld begrudgery argument doesn't hold up.

Quantum Erasure · 26-11-2019 09:14PM

I preferred Darcy's early work

Church on Tuesday · 26-11-2019 09:17PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I preferred Darcy's early work

I preferred Zig and Zag.

pixbyjohn · 26-11-2019 09:19PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I preferred Darcy's early work

Yes, but you were a child then:D:p

blade1 · 26-11-2019 09:20PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I preferred Darcy's early work

He was in his comfort zone quizzing school kids but started to get overshadowed by a few puppets shortly afterwards.

Woodenfloor · 26-11-2019 09:20PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm in my late twenties now When I was at school there was the odd thing about Gay Byrne, Pat Kenny, an Anne Doyle joke, etc.
However I don't think there was the dislike there compared to now that you hear about Ray Darcy, Ryan Turbidy, Eoghan McDermott, Garrihy's, etc.
Is it we are all jealous people now and can't praise people or has the standards dropped or were people in RTE always disliked/criticised?

OK boomer

Better Than Christ · 26-11-2019 09:24PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I preferred Darcy's early work

His producers should spend half the show throwing Ted at him.

razorblunt · 26-11-2019 09:28PM

They were always a bit shîte but one got the impression that they were the best available shîte but now it’s so obvious they’re all completely talentless.

What the fock is a Garrihy for example? One of them has “revealed” her newborn daughters name, like a secret of Fatima.

Yamanoto · 26-11-2019 09:29PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

or has the standards dropped

Gay Byrne interview

vs

Ray D'Arcy interview

.......you decide.

freshpopcorn · 26-11-2019 09:33PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

Gay Byrne interview

vs

Ray D'Arcy interview

.......you decide.

My opinion was they have dropped but I thought I may be in the wrong.

Ted_YNWA · 26-11-2019 09:39PM

Better Than Christ wrote: »

His producers should spend half the show throwing Ted at him.

Leave me out of RTE politics.

There is too much nepotism & cronyism there.

Rothko · 26-11-2019 09:40PM

Better Than Christ wrote: »

His producers should spend half the show throwing Ted at him.

Wouldn't you do the same?

Ten of Swords · 26-11-2019 09:53PM

People would give far less of a crap about them one way or another if the RTE tax was abolished

Harry Palmr · 26-11-2019 09:57PM

Social media. That is all.

Had it existed in the 70s and 80s the attacks would be as they are now. Though 'the mothers of seven' probably wouldn't be online!

Leg End Reject · 26-11-2019 09:58PM

Too much bleating about their unique home produced content

, whilst beating the "increase the license fee, we're worth it" drum.

freshpopcorn · 26-11-2019 10:02PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Social media. That is all.

Had it existed in the 70s and 80s the attacks would be as they are now. Though 'the mothers of seven' probably wouldn't be online!

I find people are kinder to RTE stars on social media than they are in reality to be honest.

topmanamillion · 26-11-2019 10:28PM

What annoys me is when the likes of Tubridy or D'Arcys salary are questioned we're told, either from them or management in RTE, it's justified because they'd get multiples of that working in England and they're doing us some sort of a favour working here.
I couldn't see either of them working on more than regional radio stations over there.
As if the BBC would shaft Graham Norton in favour of Ray D'Arcy.
Their salaries are simply not justified in a market the size of Ireland. The top BBC shows are syndicated all over the world while the majority of RTEs programmes aren't shown outside of this island.

Stacksofwacks · 26-11-2019 11:26PM

There was always a smugness and we know best attitude about RTE, but now we live in a woke society and people are calling out stuff more

Edgware · 26-11-2019 11:33PM

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

There was always a smugness and we know best attitude about RTE, but now we live in a woke society and people are calling out stuff more

Wow you're so cool using "woke" in your vocabulary.
Do you work as an 11 euro an hour researcher on the Daithi and Maura show?

Stacksofwacks · 26-11-2019 11:34PM

Edgware wrote: »

Wow you're so cool using "woke" in your vocabulary.
Do you work as an 11 euro an hour researcher on the Daithi and Maura show?

Nail on the head

Blaizes · 26-11-2019 11:45PM

Never heard much negatively about RTE growing up but tv was so much more limited back then people had nothing to compare it to till the advent of being able to get other channels here. Then the comparisons of presenters, selection of programmers etc began. Social media facilitated this big time. Another thing is the tv licence fee people hear about tv presenters salaries and it doesn’t inspire confidence.

JohnnyFlash · 26-11-2019 11:47PM

Public service broadcasting is struggling in an era where people believe everything should be free.

RTÉ needs to change. The end of a public service broadcaster would be a disaster for civic discourse and democracy though.

Tordelback · 26-11-2019 11:54PM

topmanamillion wrote: »

As if the BBC would shaft Graham Norton in favour of Ray D'Arcy.

That comparison says it all. Norton's talent for the chatshow format is genuinely remarkable - while obviously playing solely for laughs rather than the mixed diet of the others, he's still operating at the Wogan, Parkinson or Gay Byrne level. Whether you like them or hate them, D'Arcy and Tubirdy just aren't in the same league, possibly not even the same sport.

whisky_galore · 27-11-2019 12:18AM

Woodenfloor wrote: »

OK boomer

Can we just can it with that tiresome phrase?

It's like a toddler having discovered how to make an irritating noise at this stage.

Back OT, RTE "stars" are big fish in a small pond and that pond is drying up, big time.

lertsnim · 27-11-2019 12:52AM

At contract renewal offer the "stars" a fraction of what they get per annum or go elsewhere.

Arghus · 27-11-2019 01:20AM

I have never had a conversation about RTE in real life, but I've debated about it a few times on Boards.

I think people on boards are pissed off about RTE, but it's hard to know how much that reflects the general feeling of the nation because boards is always more full of pissed off people than real life. If you think After Hours reflects the reality as lived by most out there, then you're going to end up with a very askew perspective.

I'm not an RTE hater, I'm glad it exists, but there's no doubt, to my mind, that it needs some fresh ideas, a change of work practices and some of the salaries paid to top earners are outrageous.

Yamanoto · 27-11-2019 08:45AM

Tordelback wrote: »

That comparison says it all. Norton's talent for the chatshow format is genuinely remarkable - while obviously playing solely for laughs rather than the mixed diet of the others, he's still operating at the Wogan, Parkinson or Gay Byrne level.

Norton's certainly good at what he does, but his schtick is a different discipline to how Gaybo and Parky operated and is altogether more slight and disposable television as a result. Closer parallels with Wogan's chat show in some respects, though old Tel's real talent was radio.

The J Stands for Jay · 27-11-2019 08:50AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm in my late twenties now When I was at school there was the odd thing about Gay Byrne, Pat Kenny, an Anne Doyle joke, etc.
However I don't think there was the dislike there compared to now that you hear about Ray Darcy, Ryan Turbidy, Eoghan McDermott, Garrihy's, etc.
Is it we are all jealous people now and can't praise people or has the standards dropped or were people in RTE always disliked/criticised?

No, I can confirm that as a toyshow watching kid, I hated Gaybo.

27-11-2019 09:09AM

Before social media, venting tended to be at media such as TV and newspapers so a lot of the cranks targeted RTE, but by and large RTE was very popular.

It was also the harbinger of a lot of projected nonsenses, thus it could be both a mouthpiece for the catholic church and a hot bet of pro-abortion lefties at the same time.

The Irish press and the Sunday press were the most popular newspapers and they and RTE were most peoples only source of news.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 27-11-2019 09:56AM

I think a lot of it is down to the obscene salaries being paid to the likes of Tubridy, Darcy, O'Callaghan etc

Tubridy has to be one of the worst interviewers on the planet, he has absolutely no finesse or talent and regardless of the person or topic just barrels through his list of questions in a fashion that clearly shows he has absolutely no interest in the topic or person being interviewed. There is nothing natural about his interviewing techniques and he is unable to ad lib or let the conversation flow. His mid week show on the day Gay Byrne died was absolutely awful, Mike Murphy and Pat Kenny weren't allowed to stray from the question asked and reminisce as he just barged in with the next question. RTE try and justify his salary by saying that similar positions in other countries would be paid similarly...which may be so however tubs wouldn't get a job sweeping the floor elsewhere so if he thinks he's so valuable, let him go elsewhere and see what he can get.

Darcy is a joke, he was suited to light hearted radio and kids TV, he has absolutely no credibility and hopefully will be released from his contract in the next year or so. The same goes for Miriam, she is so fcuking fake that its unreal she's still employed.

I think if RTE were to get rid of those three, their fortunes would change for the better.

Were people in RTE always disliked or is it a new thing? thing?

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