Limerick GAA Discussion Part 2

somespud · 22-11-2019 1:33pm

This place was so quite 1 post between August and November and that was not games related either. As regards the off field antics of some players, I'm not into horse racing but can I put it this way, some of the best stallions can be very hard to handle when they are not training and retired from racing and their focus is diverted elsewhere, but are still managed and looked after professionally whether its for the riding or the racing. Downtime needs to be managed for these amateur players who train like professionals, its easy say go back to the clubs and we will regroup and start again for what will be a professional regime again come the new year.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 1:52pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Yeah, incident was on his own time, and he didn't hurt anyone (tipp people not being real people obvs:pac:) - by a distance the least offensive thing going on, or is that just me??

Just you really. When you are reduced to ranking acts in terms of perceived offensiveness and have accumulated enough of them to need a ranking you have problems.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 1:57pm

pajoguy wrote: »

.. as bad as the man throwing the fists was the video being shared breaks the trust within any squad.

I'd be slow equate them.

But assault is a criminal offence, end of.

big_drive · 22-11-2019 2:16pm

Will all this effect the team in championship? hard to know yet i suppose. Maybe its all happened early enough that it will be a wake up call to everyone and things will have settled in plenty time for next summer

paddy no 11 · 22-11-2019 2:26pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Just you really. It is further evidence for those that are beginning to think that Limerick hurling is a breeding ground for scumbags. When you are reduced to ranking acts in terms of perceived offensiveness and have accumulated enough of them to need a ranking you have problems.

Get over yourself, you said in a previous post that other counties are great at keeping it in house. We're no different from anyone else.

paddy no 11 · 22-11-2019 2:35pm

big_drive wrote: »

Will all this effect the team in championship? hard to know yet i suppose. Maybe its all happened early enough that it will be a wake up call to everyone and things will have settled in plenty time for next summer

Here's hoping, it's the right time of year to sort stuff out and hopefully everyone involved gets to re evaluate

aloooof · 22-11-2019 2:40pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Just you really.

I think you'll find you can only answer for yourself.

Powerhouse wrote: »

It is further evidence for those that are beginning to think that Limerick hurling is a breeding ground for scumbags.

Ridiculous over-reaction to something that, admittedly, was not a very clever thing to do.

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 2:41pm

somespud wrote: »

This place was so quite 1 post between August and November and that was not games related either. As regards the off field antics of some players, I'm not into horse racing but can I put it this way, some of the best stallions can be very hard to handle when they are not training and retired from racing and their focus is diverted elsewhere, but are still managed and looked after professionally whether its for the riding or the racing. Downtime needs to be managed for these amateur players who train like professionals, its easy say go back to the clubs and we will regroup and start again for what will be a professional regime again come the new year.

Come on now. The responsibility to act like responsible adults lies with the players and no one else. You can hardly expect the manager or county board to keep tabs on 30 odd players during their down time in the winter.

Kiely isn't going to drop anyone who is important, no matter what they do. Let's be honest here. Managers want to win trophies first, and babysit second. Cathal Barrett wouldn't have been welcomed back into the Tipp fold last year after all his off the field issues, if he wasn't an All Star. If he'd been panel member number 31, he wouldn't have been within an arses roar of the squad. End of.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 2:50pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Get over yourself, you said in a previous post that other counties are great at keeping it in house. We're no different from anyone else.

In my experience other counties tend to argue that commentary or nature of the reportage is sometimes unfair. You appear to be claiming that some of the actual actions are okay. I think that is different alright. Might be a good time for a little contriteness and humility instead.

aloooof · 22-11-2019 2:55pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

In my experience other counties tend to argue that commentary or nature of the reportage is sometimes unfair. You appear to be claiming that some of the actual actions are okay. I think that is different alright. Might be a good time for a little contriteness and humility instead.

Nowhere did he say some of the actions are ok. But there's a world of difference between assaulting someone and burning a flag. Can't believe I have to spell this out.

paddy no 11 · 22-11-2019 3:07pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Come on now. The responsibility to act like responsible adults lies with the players and no one else. You can hardly expect the manager or county board to keep tabs on 30 odd players during their down time in the winter.

Kiely isn't going to drop anyone who is important, no matter what they do. Let's be honest here. Managers want to win trophies, first and babysit second. Cathal Barrett wouldn't have been welcomed back into the Tipp fold last year after all his off the field issues, if he wasn't an All Star. If he'd been panel member number 31, he wouldn't have been within an arses roar of the squad. End of.

Nothing Cathal barrett done was filmed and put out for general dissemenation

There's a difference between hearing of a fight between 2 fellas with a few different accounts and a video of some lad shouting stop before Ryan floors him and the callousness of gillane to film irt when he should have been intervening

I dont disagree with your overall point though

I think some of the other players are sick of the nonsense and may give kiely little choice

BloodyBill · 22-11-2019 3:10pm

aloooof wrote: »

Nowhere did he say some of the actions are ok. But there's a world of difference between assaulting someone and burning a flag. Can't believe I have to spell this out.

Burning a Flag would get you more jail time than assault in many countries. It was a terrible thing to do and worse than a punch in the face in my book.

paddy no 11 · 22-11-2019 3:13pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

Burning a Flag would get you more jail time than assault in many countries. It was a terrible thing to do and worse than a punch in the face in my book.

This one will have to go to a poll I think, id be the exact opposite

aloooof · 22-11-2019 3:23pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

Burning a Flag would get you more jail time than assault in many countries.

And they tend to be the same countries where you can be killed for being gay. Happily we live in a more civilized country (but that's an entirely different conversation).

BloodyBill wrote: »

It was a terrible thing to do and worse than a punch in the face in my book.

I'm with paddy on this, I'd be the complete opposite too. And it's not even close.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 3:50pm

aloooof wrote: »

I think you'll find you can only answer for yourself.

Ridiculous over-reaction to something that, admittedly, was not a very clever thing to do.

By way of comparison, wasn't there a video of Pat Shortt picking up dog sh*te with a Kilkenny jersey awhile back? It's not as bad, but not far off. Would you go as far as calling him a scumbag?[/quote

I called nobody a scumbag. Read my post properly. I said acts like this add to the perception that Limerick hurling is a breeding ground for scumbags. There's no point in having a snigger and a sure-what-harm attitude about some incidents and then wondering why the whole country is waiting for the next instalment.

paddy no 11 · 22-11-2019 4:00pm

Except no one is sniggering, would you go have a fake crusade somewhere else now

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 4:01pm

aloooof wrote: »

Nowhere did he say some of the actions are ok. But there's a world of difference between assaulting someone and burning a flag. Can't believe I have to spell this out.

Maybe there's a world of difference and maybe not. Context matters. An assault can come from justifiable self-defense, maybe as the only option someone is left with.

Burning a flag is a hate action and obviously calculated and planned. The other poster did say it was okay because "Tipperary people aren't real people". To make this easier for you imagine the burnt flag was a Pride flag and the word "gay" was substituted for "Tipperary" how shocked you'd be?

You can try to make light of it if course but if you think it reflects well on the guy in question or the county you are deluded.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 4:08pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Except no one is sniggering, would you go have a fake crusade somewhere else now

Mayybe not now that you have been challenged but you were having a good old snigger (represented by a smiley) in your post at 12.07 because "Tipperary people aren't real people" ,(seriously is that your best attempt at humour?)

No crusade at all, just forcing you to take ownership of what you said.

paddy no 11 · 22-11-2019 4:12pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Mayybe not now that you have been challenged but you were having a good old snigger (represented by a smiley) in your post at 12.07 because "Tipperary people aren't real people" ,(seriously is that your best attempt at humour?)

No crusade at all, just forcing you to take ownership of what you said.

Yup that's a joke, get over yourself.

aloooof · 22-11-2019 4:14pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

There's no point in having a snigger and a sure-what-harm attitude about some incidents and then wondering why the whole country is waiting for the next instalment.

Where was I having a snigger or had a what-harm attitude?

Powerhouse wrote: »

Maybe there's a world of difference and maybe not. Context matters. An assault can come from justifiable self-defense, maybe as the only option someone is left with.

Burning a flag is a hate action and obviously calculated and planned. The other poster did say it was okay because "Tipperary people aren't real people". To make this easier for you imagine the burnt flag was a Pride flag and the word "gay" was substituted for "Tipperary" how shocked you'd be?

You can try to make light of it if course but if you think it reflects well on the guy in question or the county you are deluded.

Where have I made light of it? Where have I said it reflects well on the guy in question??

This is complete fabrication and stawman-ing.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 4:33pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Yup that's a joke, get over yourself.

But jokes are funny.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 4:39pm

aloooof wrote: »

Where was I having a snigger or had a what-harm attitude?

Where have I made light of it? Where have I said it reflects well on the guy in question??

This is complete fabrication and stawman-ing.

The amount of questions you ask greatly overestimates my interest in sating your desire to be right at all costs. The idea that I'll go back over posts trying to show "where you said" this or that is laughable! Sorry it just doesn't matter enough to me!!

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 4:49pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Cathal Barrett wouldn't have been welcomed back into the Tipp fold last year after all his off the field issues, if he wasn't an All Star. If he'd been panel member number 31, he wouldn't have been within an arses roar of the squad. End of.

But this skims over the fact that he was dropped in the first place despite a glittering record. Not saying dropping him was right or wrong just that it was done. And he was an All-Star.

letsseehere14 · 22-11-2019 5:40pm

From accounts I have heard, and may be wrong but it wasnt just the burning of a jersey he had laying around.
It was forcefully taken off a man in a pub then burned in front of him. That's the story I have been told anyway.

aloooof · 22-11-2019 5:41pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

The amount of questions you ask greatly overestimates my interest in sating your desire to be right at all costs. The idea that I'll go back over posts trying to show "where you said" this or that is laughable! Sorry it just doesn't matter enough to me!!

Mattered enough to reply. :pac:

Walter.White · 22-11-2019 6:18pm

People can go over and back about whats the worst thing that happened , stuff happened and at the end of the day these lads are amateurs and I'm sure management will take appropriate action in each case and they'll face consequences. They've left management down and I'm sure They'll be punished, some have already. Whether the players from new York will get a league ban or a ban for the year. They'll learn lessons. The whole group got punished with the cancelling of the medals presentation.

It's upto other lads to stake a place in the team and push on with the opportunities that will be available. The lads will realise their mistakes when they are watching on from the crowd and hopefully will better themselves in the future.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 6:24pm

aloooof wrote: »

Mattered enough to reply. :pac:

Well I wasn't really sure how to communicate it without replying. You probably shouldn't read too much into that.

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 7:00pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

But this skims over the fact that he was dropped in the first place despite a glittering record. Not saying dropping him was right or wrong just that it was done. And he was an All-Star.

He was dropped in May 2017 & rejoined the panel in October 2017. A five month banishment hardly constitutes serious punishment in the grand scheme of things. Would he have been welcomed back at all, if he wasn't such a good hurler? That is my point. Not having a go at Tipp or the lad in question btw. This happens in all counties imo, even my own.

mountgomery burns · 22-11-2019 7:07pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

He was dropped in May 2017 & rejoined the panel in October. A five month banishment hardly constitutes serious punishment in the grand scheme of things. Would he have been welcomed back at all, if he wasn't such a good hurler? That is my point. Not having a go at Tipp or the lad in question btw. This happens in all counties imo, even my own.

He missed the entire 2017 championship when they lost to eventual all Ireland champions by a last gasp point. Was a big call by the Tipp management at the time, inter county players only have a limited amount of championship seasons so I wouldn't dismiss it as insignificant.

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 7:39pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

He missed the entire 2017 championship when they lost to eventual all Ireland champions by a last gasp point. Was a big call by the Tipp management at the time, inter county players only have a limited amount of championship seasons so I wouldn't dismiss it as insignificant.

He didn't miss the entire 2017 season. (He deffo played in the Cork game.) He was only dropped for part of one season. That is not a lot overall. Since team sports were invented, there have been teams with players that can't stay out of trouble. The not so talented ones get quietly dropped for good. Nothing is ever said & no fuss is made because they weren't that important. The superstars are welcomed back with open arms after a suitable period of contrition & good behavior. It happened with Cathal Barrett & it'll happen with the Limerick players. At the end of the day, managers want to win - not be unpaid social workers.

mountgomery burns · 22-11-2019 7:55pm

So he was dropped for the 4 knockout games they played, that's pretty much the season let's be honest about it. I see your point, but in fairness what's the point in bringing back a panel player who could add disharmony and offers nothing on the field? Maybe from a Dublin perspective having just won 5 all Ireland in a row and having significant depth it's much of a muchness, but to Tipp dropping arguably their best defender from their weakest line was a major decision.

If Limerick drop Gillane for the championship next year, it'll be a big call. Just like Tipps was. And in fairness, be pretty stupid of any manager to decide to write off a young player based on his off the field stupidity and not give him a second chance to smarten up.

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 8:10pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

So he was dropped for the 4 knockout games they played, that's pretty much the season let's be honest about it. I see your point, but in fairness what's the point in bringing back a panel player who could add disharmony and offers nothing on the field? Maybe from a Dublin perspective having just won 5 all Ireland in a row and having significant depth it's much of a muchness, but to Tipp dropping arguably their best defender from their weakest line was a major decision.

If Limerick drop Gillane for the championship next year, it'll be a big call. Just like Tipps was. And in fairness, be pretty stupid of any manager to decide to write off a young player based on his off the field stupidity and not give him a second chance to smarten up.

G'wan away out of that. Tipp have been in 5 All Ireland's this decade - only 2 fewer than Dublin. Don't be playing the poor mouth now. It's Tipperary we're talking about, not Carlow or Leitrim.

On the writing players off and second chances, that would be directly proportional to the value that the player brings to the team imo. I'm just being realistic.

mountgomery burns · 22-11-2019 8:21pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

G'wan away out of that. Tipp have been in 5 All Ireland's this decade - only 2 fewer than Dublin. Don't be playing the poor mouth now. It's Tipperary we're talking about, not Carlow or Leitrim.

On the writing players off and second chances, that would be directly proportional to the value that the player brings to the team imo. I'm just being realistic.

For a key player, dropping him from the panel is always a big call regardless of the circumstances. My opinion anyway. All I'm saying about this situation is if they were too drop Gillane for the championship, their best forward, it would be a big decision for next year that they might look back on with regret. Maybe you took offense to the Dublin bit, you shouldn't and I'd point out there's a big difference between Tipp dropping Barrett and Dublin dropping Connolly relative to what was their to cover.

Agreed on the second part, though if a former fringe player was lighting up the club championship you'd likely see the second chance extended to him I reckon.

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 8:31pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

For a key player, dropping him from the panel is always a big call regardless of the circumstances. My opinion anyway. All I'm saying about this situation is if they were too drop Gillane for the championship, their best forward, it would be a big decision for next year that they might look back on with regret. Maybe you took offense to the Dublin bit, you shouldn't and I'd point out there's a big difference between Tipp dropping Barrett and Dublin dropping Connolly relative to what was their to cover.

Agreed on the second part, though if a former fringe player was lighting up the club championship you'd likely see the second chance extended to him I reckon.

No. I didn't take offense at all. Tipperary are one of the Big 3. It's a hurling obsessed county. I just don't think it's a valid comparison in terms of Dublin vs an up and coming county trying to make the breakthrough, especially as Tipp were already All Ireland champions when Barrett was dropped.

billyhead · 22-11-2019 8:33pm

Gillane wont be dropped. Too big of a call to make and if Limerick failed next year fans would be calling for Kielys head blaming dropping Gillane as one of the reasons. He will get a good bollicking it will be dealt with in house and that will be the end of it. ( I hope anyway);)

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 8:35pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

He was dropped in May 2017 & rejoined the panel in October 2017. A five month banishment hardly constitutes serious punishment in the grand scheme of things. Would he have been welcomed back at all, if he wasn't such a good hurler? That is my point. Not having a go at Tipp or the lad in question btw. This happens in all counties imo, even my own.

The point I made was that he was dropped in the first place despite being an All Star which you neglected to mention explicitly and I think that's important. Here was a manager who made that call. Whether people agree with it or not is irrelevant. There was a manager who had the cojones to not instinctively go for the fudge solution.

Would he have been welcomed back if he wasn't such a talent? That's a strange question really considering that presumably Tipp choose all their players on ability. Why should Cathal Barrett be different?

Grats · 22-11-2019 8:38pm

Plus Barrett was injured!

Supporters would abhor what players, like Barrett, get up to. But all is soon forgotten when success comes. The same will apply to Limerick. Whether, or not, players serious misdemeanours should be forgotten so quickly is another matter.

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 8:41pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

The point I made was that he was dropped in the first place despite being an All Star which you neglected to mention explicitly and I think that's important. Here was a manager who made that call. Whether people agree with it or not is irrelevant. There was a manager who had the cojones to not instinctively go for the fudge solution.

Would he have been welcomed back if he wasn't such a talent? That's a strange question really considering that presumably Tipp choose all their players on ability. Why should Cathal Barrett be different?

I said he was an All Star in my very first post on all this. Not sure what you think I'm deliberately neglecting to mention.

mountgomery burns · 22-11-2019 8:43pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

No. I didn't take offense at all. Tipperary are one of the Big 3. It's a hurling obsessed county. I just don't think it's a valid comparison in terms of Dublin vs an up and coming county trying to make the breakthrough, especially as Tipp were already All Ireland champions when Barrett was dropped.

Right but I never mentioned an up and coming county, note they haven't won back to back all Ireland's since the 60s and that was their 2nd in 15 years it's valid I think. It was a massive call at the time and it's grand in hindsight, they won an all Ireland a couple of years later sure no harm done but they might have won an all Ireland with him and that's the call Michael Ryan had to make. I'd say it was the right call in hindsight in that he's back hurling brilliantly for them, but who could have known that then?

Imagine one of yer prominent players was dropped this year for disciplinary issues and ye lost the final by point, losing out on 5 in a row. Do you not think people would be debating it as a major call for years to come?

Regardless of Tipp or Dublin, I'll say again dropping Gillane for any part of next year's championship purely for what happened in New York would be a massive call. But I agree with you, I'd say he'll serve penance before the real hurling starts and it'll all be forgotten about in time.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 8:49pm

billyhead wrote: »

Gillane wont be dropped. Too big of a call to make and if Limerick failed next year fans would be calling for Kielys head blaming dropping Gillane as one of the reasons. He will get a good bollicking it will be dealt with in house and that will be the end of it. ( I hope anyway);)

I think Kiely would be very foolish to make an issue of this with Gillane and he won't either. The problem from a management perspective is that like the Cathal Barrett situation it would always be there in the background waiting to pounce on you once you are beaten. Tipp lost an All Ireland semi final by one point without Barrett. Inevitably there are those who would still maintain that he might have made to that much difference at least. So the manager has little to gain by dropping the player.

Also it's November now, next June it'll be like the Cathal Barrett one, people will have to take to Google to remind themselves of the detail. If he's dropped that won't be the case. But if course there are other issues facing the Limerick squad anyway. In the longer run a gob****e probably addicted to social media who sacrificed his team to feed that need might be small beer.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 8:55pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

I said he was an All Star in my very first post on all this. Not sure what you think I'm deliberately neglecting to mention.

Never said you neglected to mention he was an All Star. When asking if he would have been allowed back if he wasn't a star player you neglected the obvious point that his star status didn't prevent him being dropped in the first instance. That rendered you question null and void in my view as your implied questioning of the manager's stomach for a difficult decision had been answered already.

billyhead · 22-11-2019 9:18pm

Gillane was just immature and naive. He will learn his lesson from this and that will be the end of the matter.Next years a big year for the team. So much competition now in Munster and Galway and the Cats are waiting in the long grass.

PhilOssophy · 22-11-2019 9:24pm

Think everything being blown out of proportion. Young lads go away for a weekend, after a few pints somebody gets in a row with somebody, sometimes even their close friends. This happens the length and breath of the country and sometimes people do things they later regret.
Recording it was wrong, and it is a real problem in our society that for so many people the default is to reach for the phone rather than stop the fight. Posting it on social media is idiotic, people need to stop recording stuff and cop on.
Gillane should absolutely be hurling from Limerick next year. As should the rest of them. I saw a message earlier which mentioned a row between a players mother and John Kiely, FFS who goes to the bother of penning this stuff? Whether or not it is true is irrelevant, and good on the mother for sticking up for her son - I would do the same.
If players are in trouble for assault, let the authorities deal with it and they should do just that.
But for me, all this sharing stuff that goes on online, whether true or not, is unfair to those involved where there may not be truth, may be exaggerations, etc.
Yes the players need to be educated as to their conduct. Yes they should not record and share. But seriously, people need to get a grip.
(I am not from Limerick by the way and probably don't know the full story, but I know one thing, I was young once and am glad there was no phones around because while I never hit anybody, I did plenty of stupid things when I was drunk which would now be recorded and shared rather than laughed at for the fun that they were).

ProudDUB · 22-11-2019 9:38pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Never said you neglected to mention he was an All Star. When asking if he would have been allowed back if he wasn't a star player you neglected the obvious point that his star status didn't prevent him being dropped in the first instance. That rendered you question null and void in my view as your implied questioning of the manager's stomach for a difficult decision had been answered already.

Boy, that's a lot of over the top conclusions you are jumping to based on very little.

I didn't say or imply that manager lacked the stomach to drop him. Nor did I say that dropping Barrett wasn't a big deal. Please don't put words in my mouth. Regardless of what did or did not happen in Tipp's 2017 campaign, a 5 month suspension is not a long time, compared to a player that is dropped for good. That is what I said.

Whether a player that gets involved in off the field stuff is dropped for good, or just part of a season, will be dictated by how good he is & how much value he brings to the squad. That is also what I said. Not really sure how I can be any clearer.

seligehgit · 22-11-2019 10:03pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

In my experience other counties tend to argue that commentary or nature of the reportage is sometimes unfair. You appear to be claiming that some of the actual actions are okay. I think that is different alright. Might be a good time for a little contriteness and humility instead.

To reiterate another poster's commentary nowhere did the poster you quoted state any of the actions were acceptable.

Please desist from the trolling.

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 10:05pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Whether a player that gets involved in off the field stuff is dropped for good, or just part of a season, will be dictated by how good he is & how much value he brings to the squad. .

Not sure why you keep saying that - that's stupid-obvious stuff. Any player is called into a squad on day one based on how good he is and the perceived value he brings to the squad. Why on earth is it even a talking point when the same criteria are used to judge his retention on the squad or his recall if he has been outside the camp.

In considering the value of a player to a squad even in the context of a disciplinary issue a manager is being entirely consistent. Should there be any other measure considered?

Powerhouse · 22-11-2019 10:07pm

seligehgit wrote: »

To reiterate another poster's commentary nowhere did the poster you quoted state any of the actions were acceptable.

Please desist from the trolling.

I'll desist from the posting altogether instead if some report from a snowflake makes my comment amount to trolling.

seligehgit · 22-11-2019 10:08pm

Walter.White wrote: »

People can go over and back about whats the worst thing that happened , stuff happened and at the end of the day these lads are amateurs and I'm sure management will take appropriate action in each case and they'll face consequences. They've left management down and I'm sure They'll be punished, some have already. Whether the players from new York will get a league ban or a ban for the year. They'll learn lessons. The whole group got punished with the cancelling of the medals presentation.

It's upto other lads to stake a place in the team and push on with the opportunities that will be available. The lads will realise their mistakes when they are watching on from the crowd and hopefully will better themselves in the future.

A most welcome and grounded in sense post.

Mehapoy · 22-11-2019 10:54pm

An awful lot of posters have just decided to pop up and all know chapter and verse on every issue in limerick hurling, not one post when the limerick club championship was in train though since last August!
Anyway i'd like to wish Paul Browne the best in his retirement, a great servant who got his start in the bad old days of Justin McCartys reign. Was an ever present as Limerick got back to winning munster and appearimg in all ireland semis, would have been part of the 2018 starting team only for injury.

windy shepard henderson · 23-11-2019 12:37am

Mehapoy wrote: »

An awful lot of posters have just decided to pop up and all know chapter and verse on every issue in limerick hurling, not one post when the limerick club championship was in train though since last August!
Anyway i'd like to wish Paul Browne the best in his retirement, a great servant who got his start in the bad old days of Justin McCartys reign. Was an ever present as Limerick got back to winning munster and appearimg in all ireland semis, would have been part of the 2018 starting team only for injury.

i felt he picked the best time to go , when the spotlight was somewhere else , he was never a player for it but got on with his job brilliantly and an excellent midfielder

in relation to the weeks events , i think limerick are in fairly good hands to deal with the situation with kiely in charge , this will be well forgotten about next may in fairness

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