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TV Debate! Who do you think won tonight's debate? - 19/November/2019

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    #62
    liamtech
    Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭liamtech


    NHS - Corbyn winning at this point

    Johnson is saying nothing - literally -

    Johnson is losing now in my view

    and then

    GET BREXIT DONE

    Broken record

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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    #63
    awec
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    Corbyn is doing very well IMO. Giving better answers than Johnson.


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    #64
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,203 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Serious discussion only please. Posts deleted.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #65
    [Deleted User]
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    Westernyelp wrote: »
    Johnson is nothing more than bluster and sound bites

    And Corbyn ignoring questions on his Brexit position, negotiation stance, and anti-Semitism?


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    #66
    gooch2k9
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    Johnson just blustered the privitisation question, then the moderator turns to Corbyn.

    Audience are driving me mad as well now.


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    #67
    dulpit
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    awec wrote: »
    Corbyn is doing very well IMO. Giving better answers than Johnson.

    He's giving better soundbites. Has he answered a question directly yet though?


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    #68
    awec
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    dulpit wrote: »
    He's giving better soundbites. Has he answered a question directly yet though?

    IMO yes.

    I’m no corbyn fan but he’s coming across much more coherent than Boris.


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    #69
    Indestructable
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    There are no winners here. Johnson, Corbyn, ITV, the moderator, the viewers. All losers. Nobody benefitted from this farce and it's 90 percent ITVs fault.


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    #70
    FrancieBrady
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    Party Political Broadcasts against the clock with some woman shouting in between.


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    #71
    Danzy
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    Some seriously poor answers from Johnson on the NHS.

    Answers is actually a stretch to describe it.

    I hope Labour lose more than I want the Tories to win


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    #72
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    dulpit wrote: »
    He's giving better soundbites. Has he answered a question directly yet though?

    Exactly.

    What we're seeing here is the loud Lefts in the audience clapping loud to Corbyn soundbites, and then thinking that "Corbyn won the debate!".

    Clearly, they do not know what a "debate" is really about.

    Neither does the ITV, may I add.


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    #73
    liamtech
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    Asks Johnson what he will do RE spending and the economy

    Johnson answers, ending with 'Get Brexit Done'

    :confused:

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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    #74
    CPTM
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    Debate is too rushed - Not sure if that's Etchingham's fault or the producers fault speaking in her ear.


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    #75
    Danzy
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    liamtech wrote: »
    Asks Johnson what he will do RE spending and the economy

    Johnson answers, ending with 'Get Brexit Done'

    :confused:

    It's a political campaign, the Tories win if the election is about Brexit.

    So Brecit will be shoehorned in.


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    #76
    dulpit
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    I can just picture the party hacks in the audience clapping at each point, regardless of what is said.

    ITV are showing the other broadcasters how not to do this. They're not debating each other, they're just speaking to the moderator and audience. Be better if they had a free for all for 90 minutes, or a 1 to 1 interview for like an hour where a journalist can challenge them.

    Emily Matliss would make mincemeat of them you'd think...


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    #77
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    CPTM wrote: »
    Debate is too rushed - Not sure if that's Etchingham's fault or the producers fault speaking in her ear.

    It's 100% her fault.

    Once she was named, I knew this would happen; it's characteristic Etchingham.

    Such a waste of what could have been a great "debate", rather than two sides answering questions to a time-obsessed "moderator".


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    #78
    dhaughton99
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    The clapping is so annoying


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    #79
    jogdish
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    Okay Corbyn is being heckled at points when he goes to answer.


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    #80
    liamtech
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    Asks Johnson what he will do RE spending and the economy about the environment

    Johnson answers, ending with 'Get Brexit Done'

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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    #81
    dulpit
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    Somebody said Johnson would run out of material towards end, looks like they were right. Managed to get Brexit into question about climate...


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    #82
    gooch2k9
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    Corbyn got me with the monarchy answer!


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    #83
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    jogdish wrote: »
    Okay Corbyn is being heckled at points when he goes to answer.

    ...and so is Johnson. :rolleyes:


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    #84
    igCorcaigh
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    I find the presenter excellent.


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    #85
    Indestructable
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    And ITV have flown the coop completely. Jokeshop.


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    #86
    dulpit
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    ITV gets 1 hour, minus ads, for the first debate with the 2 leaders. This is the last question that's asked.


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    #87
    Westernyelp
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    That was an awful debate. no light shone on anything that hasn't been repeated ad nausea. Especially by Johnson


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    #88
    awec
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    What a daft question.


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    #89
    dulpit
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    I voted Corbyn, but would have voted re-open nominations if that was an option.

    Corbyn won, Johnson second. ITV a distant last...


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    #90
    Danzy
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    Corbyns answer on the present was very good Johnson's was shi7.


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    #91
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    Westernyelp wrote: »
    That was an awful debate. no light shone on anything that hasn't been repeated ad nausea. Especially by Johnson

    It wasn't a "debate".

    It as a time-mannered conversation with the moderator.


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