Parkrun..

Ted_YNWA · 17-11-2019 01:02PM

Only if you are a junior does the 10th get recognised with a t-shirt.

Everyone can see you're on 9, will only know at results processing if it's your 10th.

The Black Oil · 17-11-2019 01:21PM

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Not sure what the answer is but in Malahide yesterday a couple of the buggy runners seemed dangerously close to the heels of those in front when trying to pass. Could be nasty if someone in front had to break their stride for any reason.

Maybe they should just call out “coming up on your left/right)” so people can make a bit of space for the wide load.

RD in Malahide mentioned buggies yesterday. There's maybe 4-5 of them regularly, some doubles as well. Tbf, I've never heard of an issue with them. I was going very slow yesterday as it was my first time putting on the shoes since DCM and was overtaken by a double without a problem. I've done timekeeping often enough there, but couldn't tell you their ballpark times off the top of my head. They do throw seem to throw in some effort into it alright.

Shedite27 · 17-11-2019 05:13PM

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Not sure what the answer is but in Malahide yesterday a couple of the buggy runners seemed dangerously close to the heels of those in front when trying to pass. Could be nasty if someone in front had to break their stride for any reason.

Maybe they should just call out “coming up on your left/right)” so people can make a bit of space for the wide load.

The screams of an excited 2 year old are better than any polite call.

McCrack · 17-11-2019 07:13PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I tended to start at the back during the period when I was buggy running but in general I have never come across too many issues with them or dog park runners. You do get a few issues with the entitled other park users who let their dogs run free despite 500 people running by them and the guys who will walk against the tide rather than stand aside for 2 minutes but I just log that under arseholes being arseholes.
Just remember a fast buggy runner starting at the back is not ideal for the people around them. Better to start roughly is your finishing position.
Haven't been to Popintree in a while. Must revisit.

Or perhaps not bring the buggy to a 500 plus event.. But you're entitled to of course

Pawwed Rig · 17-11-2019 07:20PM

McCrack wrote: »

Or perhaps not bring the buggy to a 500 plus event.. But you're entitled to of course

So who should be allowed take part in these events? My understanding of parkrun is that it is all inclusive.

py · 17-11-2019 07:23PM

McCrack wrote: »

Or perhaps not bring the buggy to a 500 plus event.. But you're entitled to of course

It's not about restricting buggy or dogs at Parkruns. It's about not being an inconsiderate assh0le, that goes for everyone, not just those who bring a buggy or dog.

McCrack · 17-11-2019 07:50PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

So who should be allowed take part in these events? My understanding of parkrun is that it is all inclusive.

Your understanding is correct

rainbow kirby · 17-11-2019 09:03PM

McCrack wrote: »

Or perhaps not bring the buggy to a 500 plus event.. But you're entitled to of course

Eh, we have about 10-15 buggy regulars at Stretford, which is usually 600+ runners and pancake flat. It's not exactly something outrageous.

robinph · 18-11-2019 07:55AM

Can't believe I missed a couple of paged of buggy talk.

As a buggy driver who has first finished at a couple of different courses when pushing I certainly can't agree with the start at the back idea. But it all depends on the course, the surface, the number of speedy other runners around, the number of sets of swings that you push past on the way.

At one local event a while back as I was lining up a newish RD tried to tell me that I'd be best starting from the back, which resulted in the rest of faster runners at the front who recognised me telling her that I was in the right place.

Knowing where to start at different courses does take some pre event reconisance to see where your escape routes are, where the first corner is so that you don't get squashed out of space, and you have to make a lot of noise pushing a buggy. All runners are very unaware of what is going on behind them and you have to shout at most people overtaking you as they suddenly forget the buggy they just overtook and cut in way too soon.

If you want to see a lot of buggies at an event then try a visit to Bushy the week before London Marathon. They all start over to the side with a bunch of dogs, but by the time the path narrows, other than it gets a bit crowded, everyone is in about the right space.

rainbow kirby · 18-11-2019 08:49AM

Bushy at any time is like going to an Out n About trade show! I was pushing the double when I did it.

I'm not exactly a fast runner though, I did the Alexandra - Moss Side inaugural on Saturday in 31:48 with the double buggy and only had about 7 runners behind me, but between buggy and toddlers I'm pushing over 6 stone at this stage.

Sunny Dayz · 18-11-2019 10:33AM

I am in awe of people running with a buggy! I rarely see them at my local parkrun but other parkruns I go to a couple of times a year there are usually one or two buggy runners at them. I'm a 30+ mins runners and I get passed out by them. Makes me feel even slower than I am, how can they run that fast and push a buggy :O - but fair play to them, it's great to see! And getting the next generation of parkrunners in good and early!

Dudda · 18-11-2019 11:36AM

When volunteering (barcode / timekeeping) at my local they pass the start/finish at circa 1.2k and at 3.4k as it's looped. I'm sure gambling at parkrun is frowned upon but if you want to keep yourself entertained it's great to look at the kids in the buggy's. Are the small ones rocked to sleep by 1.2k and if not are they still awake at 3.4k. We had two this week. One asleep by 1.2k and the other who was slightly older stayed awake for the whole 5k.

As for running with buggy's we've never had any issues with them and one guy starts at/near the front as he's a circa 21 minute finisher with the buggy. The others are more towards the mid to rear. It's something I'd love to try.

mister paul · 18-11-2019 12:11PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Poppintree was a sh1tshow today.

One person sent flying by a dog not kept on a lead at the start coupled with someone else with a buggy trying to cut in from the side at the start.

...

I ran Poppintree on Saturday. It's not that the dog wasn't on a lead, but rather that the lead appeared to snap as everyone started out and the dog ran into the path of the runners. I heard it snap myself from a few metres away on my right.

Obviously, that's of little comfort to the runner(s) that got bowled over, but it certainly wasn't something caused by ignorance on the part of the dog owner.

Can't comment on the person with the buggy as I didn't see it.

BeardySi · 18-11-2019 01:38PM

Name Changed wrote: »

I'm considering going up to Belfast for a New Years Day double. Ormeau and Stormont are on and close.

Orangefield is closer to Stormont and will run at 11 - you could walk between them if you're quick enough around Stormont and definitely run from one to the other. Victoria is also on at 11 I believe.

As an aside, all things going well, I'm planning on hitting my 50 at Orangefield on New Year's Day, so there may be extra cake!

quickbeam · 18-11-2019 09:38PM

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

I am in awe of people running with a buggy! I rarely see them at my local parkrun but other parkruns I go to a couple of times a year there are usually one or two buggy runners at them. I'm a 30+ mins runners and I get passed out by them. Makes me feel even slower than I am, how can they run that fast and push a buggy :O - but fair play to them, it's great to see! And getting the next generation of parkrunners in good and early!

Definitely wouldn't wanna be be doing your parkrun with a buggy :P

pc11 · 18-11-2019 10:15PM

rainbow kirby wrote: »

That or a bicycle bell, but the likelihood is that someone with big headphones on won't hear or pay attention to either.

On that matter - can someone explain why they need to wear great big cans on their heads for a 5k?? Beats me!

robinph · 19-11-2019 09:12AM

Dudda wrote: »

When volunteering (barcode / timekeeping) at my local they pass the start/finish at circa 1.2k and at 3.4k as it's looped. I'm sure gambling at parkrun is frowned upon but if you want to keep yourself entertained it's great to look at the kids in the buggy's. Are the small ones rocked to sleep by 1.2k and if not are they still awake at 3.4k. We had two this week. One asleep by 1.2k and the other who was slightly older stayed awake for the whole 5k.

As for running with buggy's we've never had any issues with them and one guy starts at/near the front as he's a circa 21 minute finisher with the buggy. The others are more towards the mid to rear. It's something I'd love to try.

For the first while I'd have to hand over a bottle of milk on the start line, and then be ready to take it back about 1 mile in. Would get screamed at if I gave the bottle too soon before the start. They would then be fast asleep seconds later.
Currently have to hand over a packet of crisps and occasionally then hand over a pack of raisins. Usually they are then fast asleep shortly afterwards.
Sometimes you have to keep an eye out for flying gloves, but the last couple of weeks there has been a refusal to put on any gloves, which then results in them not sleeping but complaining about cold hands for the last lap instead. Then you get screamed at because their hands are cold and for daring to suggest they put gloves on.

The good days are when they stay awake and shout at me to run faster, or in warning the lapped runners that we are coming by.

Pawwed Rig · 19-11-2019 09:27AM

Or having to stop during the run coz junior needs a wee and then being scolded by him when he says 'why are you running so slowly Daddy'

Anbocmorrua · 19-11-2019 10:06AM

Anyone overtaking me on a hill when pushing a double buggy deserves to be banned for life. (I'm a 21-22m parkrunner btw)

crisco10 · 19-11-2019 11:41AM

Wow, buggies at parkrun - love this chat!

Am a regular buggy runner, usually 19:30ish, so it makes absolutely no sense for me to start at the back. Marlay have that rule (and I do understand why, the first km is narrow and constrained) and I have never gone there with the buggy because of it. Buggies are allowed go where they like at Bushy but similarly, the first km is pretty tight so wouldn't fancy it. Luckily, we are spoiled for choice in these parts, have had great runs with the passenger - usually at Tymon or Cabinteely where I start front row centre. It is much much easier for all to have a few people overtake me than me overtake the majority of the field.

Over the summer had a few 1st place finishes, and it raised the question, who was the real first place participant - was it myself or the baby?

And yes, I have been known to shout at the volunteers "Asleep or awake?" as I've approached...lol

Pawwed Rig · 19-11-2019 01:27PM

I always preferred Fr Collins over St Anne's for the buggy running. Collins has an open Avenue which separates people nicely before the first corner meaning you can run at your pace. In Anne's the first 500m is very congested and you would need to adjust yourself to suit that. Once past the second corner there were no further issues.

Lazare · 19-11-2019 01:36PM

Corkagh is great for the buggy. I'll sometimes start near the back of the pack if I'm out for a recovery run, when I do I find myself pulling the brakes a lot.

I'll start a couple of rows back but on the grass if I'm going for it. 100m or so on the grass at the start until the congestion clears then it's plenty of space on pathway the whole way.

My little one loves it.

GalwayGrrrrrl · 19-11-2019 06:25PM

https://www.facebook.com/278424672220589/posts/2767995299930168?d=n&sfns=mo A regular English parkrunner sadly died during a parkrun in England last weekend. Do you think it’s appropriate to do a minutes applause at parkruns in Ireland, as a sign of respect/support/solidarity?

ahnowbrowncow · 19-11-2019 06:49PM

GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/278424672220589/posts/2767995299930168?d=n&sfns=mo A regular English parkrunner sadly died during a parkrun in England last weekend. Do you think it’s appropriate to do a minutes applause at parkruns in Ireland, as a sign of respect/support/solidarity?

No I don't, it's a fairly tenuous link and it would be a bit strange imo.

Murph_D · 19-11-2019 10:47PM

A minute’s applause at the parkrunners ‘home’ event or events (or any other form of recognition) would be enough. We’ve had this at St. Anne’s at least once, sadly.

robinph · 20-11-2019 09:30AM

GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/278424672220589/posts/2767995299930168?d=n&sfns=mo A regular English parkrunner sadly died during a parkrun in England last weekend. Do you think it’s appropriate to do a minutes applause at parkruns in Ireland, as a sign of respect/support/solidarity?

No I don't, unless there is some other link to an event. It is something that is unfortunately going to become far more common as parkrun expands, and is surprising that it's not more common already with the numbers participating each week globally.

robinph · 20-11-2019 09:38AM

crisco10 wrote: »

Wow, buggies at parkrun - love this chat!

Am a regular buggy runner, usually 19:30ish, so it makes absolutely no sense for me to start at the back. Marlay have that rule (and I do understand why, the first km is narrow and constrained) and I have never gone there with the buggy because of it. Buggies are allowed go where they like at Bushy but similarly, the first km is pretty tight so wouldn't fancy it. Luckily, we are spoiled for choice in these parts, have had great runs with the passenger - usually at Tymon or Cabinteely where I start front row centre. It is much much easier for all to have a few people overtake me than me overtake the majority of the field.

Over the summer had a few 1st place finishes, and it raised the question, who was the real first place participant - was it myself or the baby?

And yes, I have been known to shout at the volunteers "Asleep or awake?" as I've approached...lol

Most of my regular courses I know that I can outrun the local speedsters from the line and they can then make their way past as my initial sprint fades. Only course I've done where it's narrow and I knew I couldn't do that was Cardiff and so was pretty cautious about starting up the front, and unusually for me didn't have the front wheel on the line and was a couple of rows back. Made sure I'd had a chat with some likely crowd control runners before the start who looked aware enough to not run into me, turned out I had "chauffeur Ramek" / "tiny Steve" running beside me that day. In such a crowded and fast start it's good to know that the people running beside you are paying attention.

It's really subtle but you get a sixth sense for when someone running beside you and the buggy is about to do something daft or not.

Pawwed Rig · 20-11-2019 10:10AM

robinph wrote: »

No I don't, unless there is some other link to an event. It is something that is unfortunately going to become far more common as parkrun expands, and is surprising that it's not more common already with the numbers participating each week globally.

It'd be more common than you think. Someone with 20, 30, 40 runs would still be fairly anonymous at some of the bigger runs. The word would never get back to the core team where they pass away and therefore noone would ever know.

IvoryTower · 20-11-2019 10:33AM

Looking for a fast course this Sat, I'm thinking Dundalk or Donabate, any suggestions? COming from Drogheda so North Dublin is about as far as i'm willing to go

crisco10 · 20-11-2019 10:56AM

robinph wrote: »

It's really subtle but you get a sixth sense for when someone running beside you and the buggy is about to do something daft or not.

Defo, you can certainly feel some people thinking "I can't be slower than that buggy" and doing something strange/silly because if it. And it's always within the first 1km.

The worst I've had is someone sorting of doing a jump over my front wheel as they cut in in front of me. He really worked hard to do it and get ahead of me. About 500m later, I overtook him, never to be seen again. :rolleyes:

that said, I can count any awkward situations on one hand, and have done countless parkruns with the buggy. 99.9999999% of people are dead sound and just throw banter about "Have you an engine in that thing", "Can I get in"..etc

Parkrun..

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