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ISIS people returning thread - no Lisa Smith talk (21/12/19)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    jmreire wrote: »
    That would be my reasoning too...for sure there won't be any limousine to whisk her from Dublin Airport ( if that's where she will land) to the RTE studio's.

    Apparently she's been flown to Baldonnell doubt they will risk the Scrum at Dublin airport ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently she's been flown to Baldonnell doubt they will risk the Scrum at Dublin airport ,
    So arrive in Dublin Airport, commercial flight, hop on to an Air Corp flight to Baldonnell , and bob's your uncle. Privacy guaranteed. At least I'd hope that is the way it will be done..and not sending the Govt Jet Istanbul to pick her up.............:eek::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    jmreire wrote: »
    and not sending the Govt Jet Istanbul to pick her up.............:eek::mad:

    Sure didn't she demand the late late I would not be one bit surprised if she does arrive on the government jet


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    I wonder will Shane Ross be there to get a selfie with her.
    He likes welcoming heros home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I hope they clear a bed for her in the dochas centre for the rest of her life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I hope they clear a bed for her in the dochas centre for the rest of her life.

    She will be put into a council house with 24/7 Garda protection just watch!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Gatling wrote: »
    She will be put into a council house with 24/7 Garda protection just watch!

    Guaranteed, then she writes her book, then on to celebrity circuit to promote it just like the Peru drug mule Michaella, I'm coming to the conclusion that the bigger the tramp you are are in this country, the further you get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Gatling wrote: »
    She will be put into a council house with 24/7 Garda protection just watch!

    ASFAIK,,, there has been objections lodged with Dundalk Council by resident's objecting to her being allocated a council house. And maybe this is because (A) of who she is and what she has done (B) what she might do in the future and (C) not everyone want's to live beside some one under 24/7 Gardai Surveillance. This is not going to go smoothly. She is under active investigation by the Gardai, so in this case I'd imagine that that they will hold her until their investigations are complete. I'd say that her LL ( or any other show) will not be for the foreseeable future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Just read this on a french newspaper, where they are preparing to receive French isis members and Families from Turkey...it's all cut and dried.
    Quote:
    My client was arrested in a detention center on Turkish soil. When getting off the plane, people will certainly receive an international arrest warrant and will have to be brought before an examining magistrate. Then they will be detained. Children will be referred to child welfare services. This procedure is framed in particular by the "Cazeneuve protocol", initiated in 2014, which secures the transfer of jihadists from Turkey to France for judgment. Unquote.

    Way to go, and no mention of TV celebrity appearances either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Ha, will there be a big welcome party in dublin airport like for Ibrahim halawa? Allah akhbar chants all the way n zappone there for the meet n greet!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    splinter65 wrote: »
    I’m 100% confident that this time next year she’ll be sitting in the late late studio and Tubridy will have his most “compassionate” face on him, leaning earnestly towards her hijab’d person, saying with his kindest kind voice:
    “ So, is it safe to say, that you were so traumatised by your catholic upbringing that you felt you had no other choice then to embrace Islam? Have you had any apology at all from the Vatican?”

    What did I say?

    https://twitter.com/aidanmccourt/status/1196035332711555072?s=21


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Bet the wouldn't be as quick to want to be on it if the the likes of Neil Boylan was doing the interview.
    The know well that big girls blouse Tubridy will ask a few nice questions RTE prepared for him, so not to upset the poor traumatized war hero coming back home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Will tubs get a danger bonus ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Will tubs get a danger bonus ?

    She would need a good aim to hit that pr*ck.

    Never know either,she might have a suicide vest on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    It wouldn't happen if it wasn't good for viewing figures. Unfortunately this is something Irish people would tune in for and them maybe claim they boycotted it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    I hope they clear a bed for her in the dochas centre for the rest of her life.

    Come on now! You dont want that yoke converting that lot of junkies, general head cases and travellers!!! There is plenty of accomodation on Spike Island for her. Until you have faced a November wind in Cobh that would freeze the balls off a brass monkey you dont know hardship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Come on now! You dont want that yoke converting that lot of junkies, general head cases and travellers!!! There is plenty of accomodation on Spike Island for her. Until you have faced a November wind in Cobh that would freeze the balls off a brass monkey you dont know hardship.

    You couldn't do that to a war hero.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    mgn wrote: »
    The Late Late Show should be boycotted if that evil twisted bitch is giving airtime.
    .

    Kind of hard to do for some of us. We have all moved to Netflix, Torrents and youtube. Dont contribute to the license (still pay for internet and cable).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Kind of hard to do for some of us. We have all moved to Netflix, Torrents and youtube. Dont contribute to the license (still pay for internet and cable).

    I still pay the licence but that's going to come to an end, sick of all this climate agenda and one sided debates, it's now only a mouthpiece for the Leo & Co.
    As for the LLS, i have not watched that since the interview with Peter Casey.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The had years to prepare laws for people going off to ISIS. It was well known that around 40-50 people went out to Syria and Iraq. There were even training in the Wicklow Mountains.

    Did they prepare one single law for it? Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    The had years to prepare laws for people going off to ISIS. It was well known that around 40-50 people went out to Syria and Iraq. There were even training in the Wicklow Mountains.

    Did they prepare one single law for it? Nope.

    this is exactly it. We should have been ready. Life Sentence for membership of isis, automatic segregation due to dangers posed to others in prison. It should have all been set up for them saying 'if you make it back, youre going away for 20'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    There were even training in the Wicklow Mountains.

    Wait, what?

    Were they training wind that shakes the barley style with hurley for guns?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2



    You do know there is a Trinity Lecturer that is doing hiking tours of the Dublin/Wicklow Mountains as well? I wonder if there is any connection ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    The had years to prepare laws for people going off to ISIS. It was well known that around 40-50 people went out to Syria and Iraq. There were even training in the Wicklow Mountains.

    Did they prepare one single law for it? Nope.

    Leo and Charlie are too busy to be bothered with laws like that, their busy going around giving interviews calling people racist that don't want refugee centers in their town.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy



    You said they were training, I don't see anything about training drills in that article.


    Here's what you said
    . There were even training in the Wicklow Mountains.

    Here's a quote from the article
    It wasn’t a training camp. It was an opportunity to walk in an open space where you could talk about anything and no one was listening.

    Sounds more like a bonding session, no training.
    I'm still not happy to hear about it but they are two very different things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    mgn wrote: »
    Leo and Charlie are too busy to be bothered with laws like that, their busy going around giving interviews calling people racist that don't want refugee centers in their town.

    To be fair none of our governments are good at keeping up with legislation. We normally cannot be arsed until forced into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    tuxy wrote: »
    You said they were training, I don't see anything about training drills in that article.


    Here's what you said



    Here's a quote from the article



    Sounds more like a bonding session, no training.
    I'm still not happy to hear about it but they are two very different things.

    To be fair, the guy can hardly say that he went on an ISIS training camp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    To be fair, the guy can hardly say that he went on an ISIS training camp.

    True but I also don't think you can make the claim you did with no proof.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Calhoun wrote: »
    To be fair none of our governments are good at keeping up with legislation. We normally cannot be arsed until forced into it.

    When it come to national security it should be giving priority, Shane Ross has got plenty of laws passed so the can pass them when the want.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    To be fair, the guy can hardly say that he went on an ISIS training camp.

    Well they didnt break out the house coats and fluffy slippers and had a singalong. Gardai are turning a blind eye to it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    What is the motive for talking about trips to the Wicklow Mountains?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    mgn wrote: »
    When it come to national security it should be giving priority, Shane Ross has got plenty of laws passed so the can pass them when the want.

    I would assume we are already very strong I this area as we have our homegrown organizations. I think it maybe a matter of will they enforce them.

    Especially as the family have been building up a sob-story picture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I would assume we are already very strong I this area as we have our homegrown organizations. I think it maybe a matter of will they enforce them.

    Especially as the family have been building up a sob-story picture.

    Well if they don't make an example of her, then all it's going to do is make a celebrity out of her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    mgn wrote: »
    Well if they don't make an example of her, then all it's going to do is make a celebrity out of her.

    Once again you can do any crap you want overseas as a Jihadi and Department of Foreign Affairs will get you out. This is really a Kurdish issue and they should have to deal with it. Convene a military court martial and fill the jury with Kurdish widows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,019 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    Disgusted with this, She already has a celebrity notoriety about her. On answering questions about late late show a "spokesperson" said "get in line"


    Its a disgrace she shouldn't be let near the country and if she is she should be locked up, never mind going around making potentially huge sums of money and getting bailed out by the tax payer.

    Sickening

    That is not even getting into the threat she could pose to the state.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    You’re all afraid of Muslims travelers and immigrants.

    And this is our own who will end up running this country.

    Are you sure you have your targets right?

    Disgusting and embarrassing


    https://twitter.com/gzambra_92/status/1195802673821433856?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    You’re all afraid of Muslims travelers and immigrants.

    And this is our own who will end up running this country.

    Are you sure you have your targets right?

    Disgusting and embarrassing


    https://twitter.com/gzambra_92/status/1195802673821433856?s=21

    Do you feel better now? Do you support what ISIS did oversea's? are you happy with what they did to allot of people that didn't support their cause? You must also be happy with Lisa coming back especially with some of the things she has been accused of.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    mgn wrote: »
    She would need a good aim to hit that pr*ck.

    Never know either,she might have a suicide vest on.

    We can only hope


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    You’re all afraid of Muslims travelers and immigrants.

    And this is our own who will end up running this country.

    Are you sure you have your targets right?

    Disgusting and embarrassing


    https://twitter.com/gzambra_92/status/1195802673821433856?s=21

    What the fcuk are you on about ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    tuxy wrote: »
    True but I also don't think you can make the claim you did with no proof.

    They were generally considered as a weeding out process. Spending uninterrupted time with potential candidates to see if they were devoted enough to the cause and seeing if they could handle a couple of days in rough terrain. It's a fair trek over the Turkish border and they'll need the survival skills of any "soldier" does.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/jihadis-using-ireland-as-a-transit-base-due-to-soft-laws-and-lack-of-counter-terrorism-police-30914704.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    You’re all afraid of Muslims travelers and immigrants.

    And this is our own who will end up running this country.

    Are you sure you have your targets right?

    Disgusting and embarrassing


    https://twitter.com/gzambra_92/status/1195802673821433856?s=21

    I will never be able to look at a man in swimming trunks and find him attractive again.

    That has killed my libido.

    I don't know why its in this thread though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Going on the interview of one of dundalks muslim community on pat kenny this morning, she's not welcome back there, at all, at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    Originally Posted by Stop moaning ffs 

    You’re all afraid of Muslims travelers and immigrants. 

    And this is our own who will end up running this country. 

    Are you sure you have your targets right? 

    Disgusting and embarrassing 


    https://twitter.com/gzambra_92/statu...821433856?s=21

    I take your point that there are plenty on here who are willing to respond to any report of criminality or violence with comments such as "culture boss" or "religion of peace". However there's no comparison between a bunch of drunken idiots in a pool and the likes of IS/Daesh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    They were generally considered as a weeding out process. Spending uninterrupted time with potential candidates to see if they were devoted enough to the cause and seeing if they could handle a couple of days in rough terrain. It's a fair trek over the Turkish border and they'll need the survival skills of any "soldier" does.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/jihadis-using-ireland-as-a-transit-base-due-to-soft-laws-and-lack-of-counter-terrorism-police-30914704.html

    Now that's a much more logical way of putting it and makes perfect sense. Thanks for pointing it out and that would worry me.
    It's just originally you made it sound like they were running training drills up in Wicklow which sounded bizarre to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Going on the interview of one of dundalks muslim community on pat kenny this morning, she's not welcome back there, at all, at all.

    Not so surprising when you think of it..isis is a toxic brand world wide now, and I'm pretty sure that their ( isis ) follower's here in Ireland, ( and yes, they have follower's here ) will not be advertising it. Generally, all over the World,the majority of Muslims are claiming that isis is not Islam. And that's the conundrum because when isis were challenged about their "Legality" as the one true representative's of Islam, they pointed out the relevant pages of the Quran, which support their version of Islam. lisa has shone an unwelcome light on isis in particular and Islam in general here in Ireland. No surprise that they will renounce her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Considering we’re all paying for it we should know. She’ll be hidden somewhere when she comes home, new identity, lovely little house for her and her sprog too. Somewhere nice and close to a mosque so she can liase with her comrades and fulfill her orders.

    I mean of course, after she meets Ryan on a Friday night and tells us a sob story.

    She should face a trial and be given a lengthy sentence so nobody else has any bright ideas.
    https://twitter.com/AidanMcCourt/status/1196035332711555072

    Oh, wow, what a surprise. Do you know what, I hope she does go on the late late and I hope Tubridy shows he has a fcuking spine and exposes her for the evil cnut she is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭HorrorScope


    https://twitter.com/AidanMcCourt/status/1196035332711555072

    Oh, wow, what a surprise. Do you know what, I hope she does go on the late late and I hope Tubridy shows he has a fcuking spine and exposes her for the evil cnut she is.

    You are deluded if you think that wirey prick will give her anything other than an easy ride. If she goes on the late late, there should be 100% boycott of it and of rte no questions asked. Anything she has to say is irrelevant and vacuous-if there was any justice in the world she would be in a shallow grave outside Raqqa with the other whores of Isis. But of course RTE can be depended on to play the poor cailin card - ****ing disgusting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    You are deluded if you think that wirey prick will give her anything other than an easy ride. If she goes on the late late, there should be 100% boycott of it and of rte no questions asked. Anything she has to say is irrelevant and vacuous-if there was any justice in the world she would be in a shallow grave outside Raqqa with the other whores of Isis. But of course RTE can be depended on to play the poor cailin card - ****ing disgusting

    Agreed!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    https://twitter.com/AidanMcCourt/status/1196035332711555072

    Oh, wow, what a surprise. Do you know what, I hope she does go on the late late and I hope Tubridy shows he has a fcuking spine and exposes her for the evil cnut she is.

    So far, I'm pretty sure that she has already been "interviewed" by the Kurds/ American's, the Syrian's and lately the Turkish Intelligence. And these would not have been "Kid Glove" interview's. So Tubridy ( or anyone else ) who will interview her here,,,will be kid's play for her. Even for the Guard's it will be difficult ( unless they have received transcripts of interview's carried out abroad) because of the context and the location.


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