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The Lighthouse (Robert Eggers)

  • 30-07-2019 2:14pm
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Eggers' follow-up after "The Witch", looks to be another archaic piece, albeit a cinematic one. Black & White with a 4:3 ratio, and a very punchy, effective trailer:



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  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    This has been my most anticipated film ever since I saw the first image. I will not be watching that trailer. No need.

    The Witch was a seriously impressive debut. One of the best and highest quality debut films I can think of.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    There's little in the trailer that spoils the story, and honestly, it's a little surreal short film in its own right IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,632 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Been looking forward to this for a long time now.

    Any hint of when it may be arriving?

    Edit: See that it's released in the States in October.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    I think that The Witch was so, so good as a debut, that Eggers automatically has me on board for his next 2 or 3 movies.

    Granted, I said the same thing about Richard Kelly. That didn't go so well.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    New trailer out, one that's almost as surreal and abstract as the last one; though the whole "what?" sequence had me laughing rather than unnerved - that may not have been the desired reaction :D



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I must see if that is coming out soon in the big screen ?

    I love really quirky intriguing movie's and cleverly scripted movie's in keeping with its time period.

    He's very clever with his research and keeping it as close to realism


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    nthclare wrote: »
    I must see if that is coming out soon in the big screen ?

    Wide release scheduled for January at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Desperately trying to avoid everything about this.

    Although I did read something interesting on twitter about trained seagulls and how they're illegal. Apparently they used trained seagull from before the ban as a loop hole.

    That's it from me, see you in January :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 LGadd14


    https://lighthousecinema.ie//showing/showing-53170
    Screening two months ahead of its Irish release on November 30th featuring a Q&A with Eggers, in the Lighthouse of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    LGadd14 wrote: »
    https://lighthousecinema.ie//showing/showing-53170
    Screening two months ahead of its Irish release on November 30th featuring a Q&A with Eggers, in the Lighthouse of course.


    Any idea if they're doing anything in London?


    This has been my most anticipated film since I first saw the poster. I have avoided all trailers. I cannot wait to see this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14 LGadd14


    El Duda wrote: »
    Any idea if they're doing anything in London?


    This has been my most anticipated film since I first saw the poster. I have avoided all trailers. I cannot wait to see this.

    I know it screened at the London Film Festival last month but I'd imagine there will be further advance showings in the run-up to its release. I wouldn't be surprised if Odeon show it as a Screen Unseen for example.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Had been trying to convince myself not to go down to Cork on Saturday just to watch this, so a screening with Eggers himself at the Light House (The Lighthouse at The Light House!) is precisely the thing I needed :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Saruwatari


    Managed to catch their announcement tweet 40mins after it was posted whilst still disembarking from a plane, literally dropped everything to grab tickets. Glad I did too, sold out within 4hrs. Cannot bloody wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lionbacker


    Got tickets to go see it this Saturday of part of the Cork film festival.
    Probably the movie I'm most looking forward to seeing this week, so can't wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lionbacker


    Well, that was certainly a unique viewing experience.
    The feeling of isolation was palpable coupled with the cinematography & the decision to film it in black and white. Quite something to behold.
    I may need to see it again to make proper sense of it or just to get a better understanding of it, but certainly a movie that will stick long in the memory.

    BTW, A lot more humour in this then what I was expecting, which was a bit of a surprise given the overall tone of the film.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    How accessible is it for a casual viewer? Wouldn't mind seeing this but my patience for something this eccentric would be higher than the OP, so don't want to drag her to something she'd find too impenetrable...


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lionbacker


    pixelburp wrote: »
    How accessible is it for a casual viewer? Wouldn't mind seeing this but my patience for something this eccentric would be higher than the OP, so don't want to drag her to something she'd find too impenetrable...

    It's certainly wouldn't be to everyone's taste, that's for sure. It's different than your conventional drama or rom-com etc, so hard to know what she would make of it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Lionbacker wrote: »
    It's certainly wouldn't be to everyone's taste, that's for sure. It's different than your conventional drama or rom-com etc, so hard to know what she would make of it.

    She's not the romcom type, think she'd thump you for that, more just wondering how esoteric the film is. Fair to say that from its promotions it hews close to art house, am curious how intractable or accessable it is - compared with The Vvitch, for example.


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lionbacker


    pixelburp wrote: »
    She's not the romcom type, think she'd thump you for that, more just wondering how esoteric the film is. Fair to say that from its promotions it hews close to art house, am curious how intractable or accessable it is - compared with The Vvitch, for example.

    It's easy enough to understand & follow but obviously there's deeper meaning or message that may go unnoticed by the casual viewer if that's what your asking.
    May be a hard watch compared to big budget movies, if that's what's she's used to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 mortissimo


    does anyone know where to get tickets for the 30th Nov? as in, if someone who bought them can't attend o wants to resell them.

    I've been checking for screenings in Dublin for months but I wasn't on Twitter and I just realised about the screening with Robert Eggers.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Thoroughly dug this, with the disclaimer that it does get a bit repetitious as it veers madly towards its wild conclusion.

    Pitched somewhere between Hard to Be a God, The Turin Horse and The Witch but also very funny, it is a monochrome hand grenade made of brine, piss, blood and assorted other bodily fluids (channelling the spirit of HTBAG capably in that respect). Great care has been put into making the framing aesthetically pleasing but also always off centre and a l’il weird. Perfect fit for the aspect ratio, with some monstrously intense close-ups. Eggers scatters the phantasmorigical moments and more explosive outbursts carefully for maximum impact. Deeply appreciate the soundtrack blasting us with a persistently loud foghorn every couple of seconds for the first act to get us in the mood.

    It’s all on the two lads, to be fair, and they’re both the best. Defoe has the strongest material, somehow ensuring his piratey, sea shanty-style dialogue makes perfect sense within the world - he reads these outrageous lines like a dream, while also capable of raising a laugh or chill through some mad glare at the camera. Pattinson once again proves himself one of Hollywood’s youngest MVPs, capably matching and arguably even surprising the crazed intensity of his more experienced counterpart - there’s some bits where he rambles into incoherence, and I was there for it. Together they soar, and they both put themselves through admirable levels of physical humiliation in the pursuit of this ludicrous vision.

    As alluded to at the start, I did feel the momentum isn’t consistent: there is only so many times the ‘working day -> crazy bender -> manic outburst -> weird ****’ formula can be used in a single film without settling into a familiar rhythm. It’s a good formula, mind you, but the tricks become clear early and what you’re left with is escalation. Again: good escalation, but couldn’t shake the feeling there was a slightly tighter edit waiting to pounce. And I might need a second viewing to parse some of the denser shanty dialogue.

    But it’s overall a loving cinematic hymn to sea madness and bat**** insanity. Eggers is a smart guy, and great to hear him afterwards espouse on the sheer attention to detail put into the development and production - he draws from a premium well of history, filmic and otherwise.

    In short: The Lighthouse is the buddy comedy of the year, while also being a great body / psychological horror film, while also farting (literally - these two chaps start letting them off within seconds) in the direction of easy genre classifications. Recommended!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Saruwatari


    Still gathering my thoughts but overall it more than exceeded my expectations. I'm already clamoring for a rewatch - January 31st can't come fast enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    This movie is incredible, best I've seen in a long long time. Dafoe is mesmerising, a must watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭Homelander


    A fine movie, but it does require your undevoted attention. Distrubing and unsettling with some stunning imagery. Magnificent performances from Pattison and Dafoe. While I prefered The Witch, they're not at all comparable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    This has been my most anticipated film for a long time now. Sod Avengers/Star Wars etc... This is the one that has had me counting down the days. It's out on Friday...

    There are no f--king cinemas showing it anywhere near me. I have a choice of Leamington Spa, Oxford, High Wycombe, Aylesbury, B'ham and can't find sod all atm. Soho Curzon is the closest and that's about 90 miles from me.

    Plenty of Bad Boys 3 screenings though. FML. Modern cinema sucks balls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,666 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    El Duda wrote: »
    This has been my most anticipated film for a long time now. Sod Avengers/Star Wars etc... This is the one that has had me counting down the days. It's out on Friday...

    There are no f--king cinemas showing it anywhere near me. I have a choice of Leamington Spa, Oxford, High Wycombe, Aylesbury, B'ham and can't find sod all atm. Soho Curzon is the closest and that's about 90 miles from me.

    Plenty of Bad Boys 3 screenings though. FML. Modern cinema sucks balls.

    I'm in Manchester myself and saw an ad for it up in my local Vue cinema recently. Theres a page for it on their website as it stands https://www.myvue.com/film/the-lighthouse albeit, no screen times yet for a lot of places but seems there is for London Finchley Road, Islington, Shepards Bush and Westfield Stratford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Booked myself a ticket at Birmingham electric cinema on Saturday evening. Seems like an appropriate venue to see this type of film.

    Fingers crossed it lives up to the hype. I'm expecting something very special.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Brilliant stuff, must be seen in the cinema for the sound alone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Just finished it and I absolutely loved it. Thank god there are films like this being made. Very different to what most people's idea of a film should be, but just an exceptional piece of art.

    I love how Eggers films don't spoonfeed you and leave things open to interpretation, and he uses darkness and light so well. The shots in this film are phenomenal the way the camera moves around the set was excellently done. Both this and the Witcher' eerie final scenes, despite being very different, felt similar in a way.

    Looking at the best picture odds on paddypower i see 1917 is favored heavily for best cinematography. IMO thats a joke The Lighthouse should be winning that category easily. It looked so much like an old film while still keeping a contemporary feel, from the ratio to whatever lenses they used, the lighting, everything looked amazing, the sound was phenomenal too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Just seen it.

    Blown away tbh. Completely agree with all praise in this thread. ^

    The Oscar's have got everything so so wrong from what I've seen so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Saw it for a second time after catching it in the Cork Film Fest. Was my favourite film of last year, really feel the Oscars got it wrong but not surprised it's a bit weird for the academy.

    Loved it just as much in fact even felt like it went by faster. The score and cinematography are astounding. The aspect ratio really adds to the claustrophobia and tension. The dialogue is so rich too, such great writing. I definitely agree that it's a movie that requires your full attention and think that could easily put people off but if you can get into it it's mesmerising masterclass in suspense and surrealism. Dafoe and Pattinson are fantastic in it, Dafoe in particular. That scene where he's being covered in dirt is mind blowing to watch.

    On the other hand when I saw this at the film festival a couple days later I overheard someone say "The biggest POS they'd ever seen". Overheard someone the other day saying they needed to see it again to make sense of it. Also want to echo what someone else said that it seems not be getting a great release. Only cinema showing it in Cork is Mahon and they're doing both in the late afternoon, no late showing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    First movie ive been at where people were turning around to other people to wonder what they had just watched. I like lighthouses to the point I hired one for a weekend to stay in ;-) so I enjoyed the immersive quality about the movie . Dafoe put in a great performance , someone was saying the actors don’t get on now , not sure how true that is or might just be to make the movie come across as a bit edgier? Its obviously a bit out there and wont be for everyone.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,666 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    silverharp wrote: »
    First movie ive been at where people were turning around to other people to wonder what they had just watched. I like lighthouses to the point I hired one for a weekend to stay in ;-) so I enjoyed the immersive quality about the movie . Dafoe put in a great performance , someone was saying the actors don’t get on now , not sure how true that is or might just be to make the movie come across as a bit edgier? Its obviously a bit out there and wont be for everyone.

    They did an interview with Film4 where they talked about how they have different styles of acting, but Dafoe said they may have different ways of working but it makes them works together. I also read this article recently about it.
    Dafoe’s devotion to rehearsal and precise blocking ran counter to his co-star’s — Pattinson found the approach antithetical to his more spontaneous acting style. The two actors’ techniques clashed on the set, although he and Pattinson never did — Dafoe suggests the script provided all the tension between the characters that he and his doubles partner needed.

    https://www.screendaily.com/features/how-willem-dafoe-and-robert-pattinsons-contrasting-acting-styles-powered-the-lighthouse/5145355.article


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    I usually like to write up a little review but everything that can be said about this film has already been covered. So i'll just do this...


    The Lighthouse - 10/10

    The Shining meet Steptoe & Son.



    I have very much enjoyed listening to interviews with the two actors talking about this project. Good Simon Mayo one. Two good ones on the Empire podcast last week etc... In the Mayo interview, Willem confirms that he will be working with Eggers on his next project, so that's very exciting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    El Duda wrote: »
    I have very much enjoyed listening to interviews with the two actors talking about this project. Good Simon Mayo one. Two good ones on the Empire podcast last week etc... In the Mayo interview, Willem confirms that he will be working with Eggers on his next project, so that's very exciting!

    That'll be the 'Viking revenge' movie being shot in Co. Down. Eggers is living up north preparing for the shoot. Nicole Kidman and Anya Taylor Joy both will be in it. Can't wait to see what he does with this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭jobless


    Watched this last night and enjoyed it, it shows what a farce the Oscars are that neither were nominated, especially defoe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    jobless wrote: »
    Watched this last night and enjoyed it, it shows what a farce the Oscars are
    I never pay any attention to them, and certainly never watch them. I couldn't tell you who has ever won anything. Tell a lie- I remember Denzel Washington won one for 'Training Day' (he did, didn't he?).


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Absolutely blown away by this. Just a really brilliant piece of work. Brilliantly shot and the sound design in this is just out of this world good, the creaking sounds, water, rain, wind and the fog horn all sounded like one demented piece coming from the jaws of some Leviathan Hell. The whole thing is dripping with fantastic themes of myth and symbolism too. It all just brilliantly taps into the subconscious and the total realm of chaos that exists deep within us all that we never really acknowledge.

    Just brilliant Real work. Will go to see it again at the weekend coming up.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    buried wrote: »
    Absolutely blown away by this. Just a really brilliant piece of work. Brilliantly shot and the sound design in this is just out of this world good, the creaking sounds, water, rain, wind and the fog horn all sounded like one demented piece coming from the jaws of some Leviathan Hell. The whole thing is dripping with fantastic themes of myth and symbolism too. It all just brilliantly taps into the subconscious and the total realm of chaos that exists deep within us all that we never really acknowledge.

    Just brilliant Real work. Will go to see it again at the weekend coming up.

    It's brilliant alright. I'm disappointed by the lack of posts in this thread. For the people out there with no way to view it it's available by "other means". Watch it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Find a way to see this in the cinema. No other option would suffice


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    RasTa wrote: »
    Find a way to see this in the cinema. No other option would suffice

    Exactly this. The sound design is absolutely unreal. Went to see this again the weekend. I think I'm addicted to the whole package you get from watching this on the big screen with the full frontal assault of sound. Something about the old style camera work and the unreal scope of sound that goes with it. Will try to go again this weekend if I can. Magic stuff, only the cinema will do.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    I will be rewatching this in the cinema this week. It was such a good experience, the sound mainly. It would mainly be lost watching at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Just out from seeing this, no idea what the heck I just watched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Interesting film, glad I got round to seeing it. Very refreshing experience.
    RasTa wrote: »
    Find a way to see this in the cinema. No other option would suffice

    Yeah would certainly agree with that. Got to see it last week in a small cinema. Out of the twenty five seats, about twenty three were full.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Best use of farts since Blazing Saddles.

    Where to even start with this madness? A whirling storm of beautiful cinematography, sound design and symbolism, all tethered by demented and intense performances. Not a horror, nor comedy, nor thriller, but some strange drunken miasma of all of them.

    Not a subtle movie by any stretch, but one that'll leave you thinking, with occasional tentacular nightmares.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Don't understand how this isn't horror. It's scarier than any other modern 'horror'. Makes the Conjuring series look like Goosebumps.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    El Duda wrote: »
    Don't understand how this isn't horror. It's scarier than any other modern 'horror'. Makes the Conjuring series look like Goosebumps.

    In simple terms, IMO I believe it's just the direction "horror" has gone as a genre: rightly or wrongly, for many in mainstream audiences, horror films effectively function as Haunted Houses mixed with theme park rides, jump scares n' all. The surrealist dread of The Lighthouse would simply bore that audience, or leave them with the "wrong" kind of emotional reaction they might have been looking for. For me, The Conjuring aim for that "scream-laugh" endorphin hit, where the rush from the jump scare is quickly followed by the laugh that you did in the first place. Similar to other adrenaline-rush hobbies in many respects. The Lighthouse left me with a queasy, unsettled feeling that runs antithetical to that other form of Horror.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    Defoe and that fog horn sound were the two stars of that film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭BullBauld


    Just finished The Lighthouse and was gripped. Trying to comprehend it all now.
    The performances of Pattinson and Defoe were mesmerising, hypnotic, fully immersive.

    Plenty to ponder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    Showing in Triskel, Cork from Sunday.


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