Things In Football That Grind Your Gears

Cantona's Collars · 29-10-2019 03:19PM

Iang87 wrote: »

4.30 Sunday Kick offs.

Obviously no one in the Premier League fixture office cares for NFL Redzone

5.30 Saturdays are worse,in the middle of watching a game and then supper has to be prepared/got.
It's just an awkward time.

Shanotheslayer · 29-10-2019 03:22PM

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

5.30 Saturdays are worse,in the middle of watching a game and then supper has to be prepared/got.
It's just an awkward time.

That's my favourite time! 5:30 KO for a few pints and then hang around afterwards hopefully catch some La Liga. Home early enough

But can see your point and get why it's annoying for some. Different times always gonna suit different folk and occassions.

Cantona's Collars · 29-10-2019 03:25PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

That's my favourite time! 5:30 KO for a few pints and then hang around afterwards hopefully catch some La Liga. Home early enough

But can see your point and get why it's annoying for some. Different times always gonna suit different folk and occassions.

It's grand for the few pints but awkward at home with kids wanting food and disapproving looks and comments from the missus.:)

rob316 · 29-10-2019 03:26PM

Tyler just sounds every bit his age, desperately needs to be replaced. I've been watching alot of the championship last while and the commentary is far more enthusiastic.

The_Kew_Tour · 29-10-2019 03:36PM

Collymore closing in!!!!!!!!!

He got excited then.

Luckycharms_74 · 29-10-2019 04:16PM

I can't believe that Tyler is still Skys No1 commentator. He's a disaster and should have been replaced long ago.

Rob Palmer shoud be the main man on sky as his commentary is superior to Tylers.

Compare Tyler to Peter Drury and the difference is night and day. Tyler sounds half asleep during his commentary.

callaway92 · 30-10-2019 02:06PM

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

I can't believe that Tyler is still Skys No1 commentator. He's a disaster and should have been replaced long ago.

Rob Palmer shoud be the main man on sky as his commentary is superior to Tylers.

Compare Tyler to Peter Drury and the difference is night and day. Tyler sounds half asleep during his commentary.

I like Drury to an extent, but he has become a searcher for soundbites now.

Someone said above about Rob Palmer - He is very good

EDIT: I see Drury is gone to SuperSport anyway in Africa, so he won't be doing any Sky commentary.

inforfun · 31-10-2019 07:55AM

I liked the days when commentators didnt feel the need to talk for 90 mins and kept their mouth shut when it was obvious for everyone what was going on.
Nowadays you have radiocommentators doing the tv commentary.

Salvation Tambourine · 31-10-2019 08:16AM

I much prefer watching a match with a single commentator. They generally talk about the match and don't try and spin some narrative around the game. It happens a bit on Premier Sports for Italian games. So much nicer watching a game without getting annoyed at the commentators.

The J Stands for Jay · 31-10-2019 10:40AM

inforfun wrote: »

I liked the days when commentators didnt feel the need to talk for 90 mins and kept their mouth shut when it was obvious for everyone what was going on.
Nowadays you have radiocommentators doing the tv commentary.

I was in Portugal during the last world cup and found a channel showing the matches without commentary. It was surprisingly enjoyable that way.

inforfun · 31-10-2019 02:04PM

Had that 2 years ago with Feyenoord in the Chamions League groupstage. German Sky has all the matches but only commentary when Germans were playing.

14-11-2019 10:05AM

The whole ref and VAR debate.

The micro analysis of football and offside armpits. Days spent discussing decisions and refs and which refs are appointed and how long the VAR decision took.

Shanotheslayer · 14-11-2019 04:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The whole ref and VAR debate.

The micro analysis of football and offside armpits. Days spent discussing decisions and refs and which refs are appointed and how long the VAR decision took.

Refs were long debated and decisions by them also have been long discussed.

Arghus · 14-11-2019 04:57PM

McGaggs wrote: »

I was in Portugal during the last world cup and found a channel showing the matches without commentary. It was surprisingly enjoyable that way.

I don't understand how that isn't a thing already. An option, when available, to just listen to the sounds of the game and the stadium would be fantastic.

14-11-2019 05:41PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Refs were long debated and decisions by them also have been long discussed.

Ah not remotely in the same way. Very few if any refs were well known in the 70s and 80s, when leagues were decided on decisions like the WBA offside goal v Leeds. Jack Taylor was about the only "celebrity ref" I can remember. Their decisions were discussed alright, but not nearly with the same level of hand wringing and analysis about the individuals blowing the whistle.

Shanotheslayer · 14-11-2019 06:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah not remotely in the same way. Very few if any refs were well known in the 70s and 80s, when leagues were decided on decisions like the WBA offside goal v Leeds. Jack Taylor was about the only "celebrity ref" I can remember. Their decisions were discussed alright, but not nearly with the same level of hand wringing and analysis about the individuals blowing the whistle.

You mean in the 70s and 80s when social media didn't exist it wasn't discussed as much?

Social media changed the game so the comparison is completely different.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-11-2019 06:07PM

Arghus wrote: »

I don't understand how that isn't a thing already. An option, when available, to just listen to the sounds of the game and the stadium would be fantastic.

BBC did that a lot of years ago it was great

Ragnar Lothbrok · 14-11-2019 06:54PM

I love the commentaries, even the sh!t ones. Even when the co-commentator is a pr!ck. Sometimes the inane "banter" between the commentator and co-commentators makes me cringe, but I'd still rather have that than just the noise of the crowd.

citytillidie · 14-11-2019 11:01PM

Arghus wrote: »

I don't understand how that isn't a thing already. An option, when available, to just listen to the sounds of the game and the stadium would be fantastic.

BBC have been doing that at the past few World Cups via red button. Games with TV com, radio com and no com

15-11-2019 11:21PM

People who have zero interest in the club game here, or worse take the pi55 out of it, and are fixated on the English Premier League...but have very strong opinions on the national team when a big game comes up...

Wrongway1985 · 16-11-2019 11:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

People who have zero interest in the club game here, or worse take the pi55 out of it, and are fixated on the English Premier League...but have very strong opinions on the national team when a big game comes up...

When you say club game here though you are referring to the LOI, where I'm from me local club isn't professional and not one LOI club in my county it's an hour to the nearest one.

When I was growing up there was no awareness in my area that the country even had a pro league and I figure that's pretty common to this day, like a lot of things I think if you can't instill belief in the league to young generations, that battle is pretty much over.

I find it hard to digest people belittling any level of football myself, it's sometimes as if the exact same game doesn't have the ability to be as enjoyable outside the top tier in England.

Mushy · 16-11-2019 12:28PM

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

When you say club game here though you are referring to the LOI, where I'm from me local club isn't professional and not one LOI club in my county it's an hour to the nearest one.

Yeah but theres a lot of irony in saying that theres no team close to me to support, so they end up supporting a team in a different country. Illogical doesn't even come close to describing it.

Second point about no awareness is true though, and its something that needs to change from the FAIs/clubs side

16-11-2019 12:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

People who have zero interest in the club game here, or worse take the pi55 out of it, and are fixated on the English Premier League...but have very strong opinions on the national team when a big game comes up...

I don't think there is anything wrong with supporting your national team and having strong opinions on them regardless of what club team or league you watch.

What really grind my gears is the people who support UK teams here and complain about the international break.

And they do exist.

Shanotheslayer · 16-11-2019 12:52PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I don't think there is anything wrong with supporting your national team and having strong opinions on them regardless of what club team or league you watch.

What really grind my gears is the people who support UK teams here and complain about the international break.

And they do exist.

What's wrong with complaining about the international break? The football tends to be dogsh1t and their is far less of it.

16-11-2019 12:58PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

What's wrong with complaining about the international break? The footballt ends to be dogsh1t and their is far less of it.

I just can't grasp how someone would have a greater interest in some club team in a different country over their own national team.

I don't support a British club, I tried when I was younger but it doesn't would not "stick".

I don't support a LOI club because it was not prevalent where I grew up and is not prevalent where I live now.

But I love support Ireland.

DeanAustin · 16-11-2019 01:16PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I just can't grasp how someone would have a greater interest in some club team in a different country over their own national team.

I don't support a British club, I tried when I was younger but it doesn't would not "stick".

I don't support a LOI club because it was not prevalent where I grew up and is not prevalent where I live now.

But I love support Ireland.

It's a fair argument and I agree to an extent but I support Spurs for about 40-45 weeks of the year. Ireland only play a handful of times. I guess I'm more invested in the Spurs players because I watch so much of them and they take me on a rollercoaster ride most weeks (mainly down at the moment).

That said, I am heavily invested in Ireland when they play.

OwaynOTT · 16-11-2019 01:21PM

Mushy wrote: »

Yeah but theres a lot of irony in saying that theres no team close to me to support, so they end up supporting a team in a different country. Illogical doesn't even come close to describing it.

Second point about no awareness is true though, and its something that needs to change from the FAIs/clubs side

Convenience - easy to watch teams from another country on TV, not easy to watch Irish league on TV, as it wasn't on for years and it's barely on now.
It's almost as easy to travel to England nowadays, as it is to travel within Ireland, unless you're close by the team, live within the same town/city.

Quality - unfortunately, the quality is much higher in other countries and lots watch football for entertainment. You wouldn't watch other types of inferior entertainment over superior options.

Loyalty - I'm from Tipp, no team in the national league, we have a local club, which I use to play for but its amateur. Why would I travel to Limerick to watch Limerick. How can I develop and an attachment and loyalty to a county, which during the summer for hurling, would be a massive rival?
Much easier to develop an attachment to a club from another country.

Love of the game itself - just go play a 5-a-side

Having said all that, if I relocated to a county/city that had a decent team, I'd probably go once in a while because it's easy and local but I'd still look to my 'club' in England for my entertainment hit and play a game to enjoy the sport.

I really don't see how league of ireland fans can't see this? It's a snobbery thing for ye, 'we're better fans, as we follow our local club', a badge of pride, 'we watch it no matter what, even when we could get better quality entertainment elsewhere.'
Fair ****s to ye for having a local club close by and having the convenience of being able to enjoy it and develop a loyalty to the club, I am enviousness of you but at the same enjoy my place in football fandom.

Soccer is my sport and enjoy playing and watching and will always support the national side and I have seen them play a few times in dublin, despite the cost involved.
I'm bemused by anyone, that claims to be a 'better' supporter , just because they follow a local team.

Mushy, I 'm not even really responding to you specifically, just in general to all the LOI fans that have posted on here over the years.
I probably won't respond either, as I won't have time to unfortunately. Oh and that's another thing, time! Maybe some just don't have the spare time on their hands to spend up to four hours (if they live an hour away from a club) on a regular basis to follow an Irish club.

Football snobbery grinds my gears.

Wrongway1985 · 16-11-2019 01:30PM

Mushy wrote: »

Yeah but theres a lot of irony in saying that theres no team close to me to support, so they end up supporting a team in a different country. Illogical doesn't even come close to describing it.

Second point about no awareness is true though, and its something that needs to change from the FAIs/clubs side

It's certainly ironic but kinda ties in with the second point, majority of people as they get older only take those things into consideration, years of habitual following since a young sprout they are unlikely to drop, certainly the case with me for sure

I don't think we'll see any drastic change in the LOI anytime soon sadly you only have to look that the foundation of the league, clubs are years of bumming pitches.

Wrongway1985 · 16-11-2019 01:40PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Loyalty - I'm from Tipp, no team in the national league, we have a local club, which I use to play for but its amateur. Why would I travel to Limerick to watch Limerick. How can I develop and an attachment and loyalty to a county, which during the summer for hurling, would be a massive rival?
Much easier to develop an attachment to a club from another country.

That's a good point actually. Not an avid hurling fan myself but quite enjoy it especially in the summer I'm also from Tipp but Waterford would be closer, due to hurling if I all of a sudden decided to set off to Waterford United games the father would actually disown me!! :pac:

Mushy · 16-11-2019 01:43PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Convenience - easy to watch teams from another country on TV, not easy to watch Irish league on TV, as it wasn't on for years and it's barely on now.
It's almost as easy to travel to England nowadays, as it is to travel within Ireland, unless you're close by the team, live within the same town/city.

Quality - unfortunately, the quality is much higher in other countries and lots watch football for entertainment. You wouldn't watch other types of inferior entertainment over superior options.

Loyalty - I'm from Tipp, no team in the national league, we have a local club, which I use to play for but its amateur. Why would I travel to Limerick to watch Limerick. How can I develop and an attachment and loyalty to a county, which during the summer for hurling, would be a massive rival?
Much easier to develop an attachment to a club from another country.

Love of the game itself - just go play a 5-a-side

Having said all that, if I relocated to a county/city that had a decent team, I'd probably go once in a while because it's easy and local but I'd still look to my 'club' in England for my entertainment hit and play a game to enjoy the sport.

I really don't see how league of ireland fans can't see this? It's a snobbery thing for ye, 'we're better fans, as we follow our local club', a badge of pride, 'we watch it no matter what, even when we could get better quality entertainment elsewhere.'
Fair ****s to ye for having a local club close by and having the convenience of being able to enjoy it and develop a loyalty to the club, I am enviousness of you but at the same enjoy my place in football fandom.

Soccer is my sport and enjoy playing and watching and will always support the national side and I have seen them play a few times in dublin, despite the cost involved.
I'm bemused by anyone, that claims to be a 'better' supporter , just because they follow a local team.

Mushy, I 'm not even really responding to you specifically, just in general to all the LOI fans that have posted on here over the years.
I probably won't respond either, as I won't have time to unfortunately. Oh and that's another thing, time! Maybe some just don't have the spare time on their hands to spend up to four hours (if they live an hour away from a club) on a regular basis to follow an Irish club.

Football snobbery grinds my gears.

Convenience...for tv, yeah, not denying that. Dont think the travel bit will wash (to me anyway). If you were to leave your house (and it probably goes for anywhere in the country, it'll never be easier or quicker to go to england for a game. Can do both though.

Quality is indisputable. But it cant improve here if people are staying away. No, wouldn't watch inferior entertainment...would watch both though.

Loyalty....makes some sense, but then you aren't going to support the country of the club team either (unless you actually will, be a minority though I'd say).

I understand the snobbery thing, theres some where its tedious and ridiculous. I live bout 3-3.5 hours from my team here (luckily it's a 10 minute walk to another team in same division so will see 2 games this season). But why not support both? If people are saying to support LOI exclusively, yeah it won't happen and can't be expected, those people should be ignored (and possibly derided). I wont go claiming I'm a better fan, but theres ways to support the local teams to help improve the league at the same time.

Things In Football That Grind Your Gears

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