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Night Rate ESB meter

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  • 12-11-2019 6:00pm
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    from_atozinc
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    Hi

    Can anyone tell me if there is a cost involved in switching from a day/night meter back to a standard meter.

    Ive heard it may be as much as 200 euro, but not sure how true this is.
    Im not sure why there would be a cost anyway, there is no physical work needed (I think)

    The physical work would have happneed when installing the extra night meter whenever it was requested, and this install is free, as far as I am aware.
    You would imagine any charge here would be at the time of install of the night meter............................not to move away from it


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    Twister2
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    Do you mean separate night meter or day/night single meter

    As far as I recall there was a charge to change back from day/night

    I think maybe not with the separate night meter, not sure


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    Twister2
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    Prices will be on the website anyhow


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    from_atozinc
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    Twister2 wrote: »
    Do you mean separate night meter or day/night single meter

    As far as I recall there was a charge to change back from day/night

    I think maybe not with the separate night meter, not sure

    hi, a seperate night meter I think

    on a 2004 house, so presume its still the old anlaog meter


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    Sleeper12
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    We are all getting smart meters over the next two years or so. They will be removing night and day meters then. It might be worth waiting for them to remove the meter free of charge.

    I wonder if there is any way to find out if your area will be getting replacement meters soon?

    EDIT Maybe this helps https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/esb-smart-meters-locations-2019

    Cork & Midlands


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    from_atozinc
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    We are all getting smart meters over the next two years or so. They will be removing night and day meters then. It might be worth waiting for them to remove the meter free of charge.

    I wonder if there is any way to find out if your area will be getting replacement meters soon?

    EDIT Maybe this helps https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/esb-smart-meters-locations-2019

    Cork & Midlands

    Right. So with this new initiative, the chance of having to pay to revert back to the standard meter may not be valid anymore. I hope.


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    Sleeper12
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    from_atozinc wrote:
    Right. So with this new initiative, the chance of having to pay to revert back to the standard meter may not be valid anymore. I hope.


    That's my thought yes. The question is is it cheaper to pay now to remove it or to wait & get it done for free. I think if you are in Cork or the Midlands you are better off waiting.


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    from_atozinc
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    That's my thought yes. The question is is it cheaper to pay now to remove it or to wait & get it done for free. I think if you are in Cork or the Midlands you are better off waiting.

    Don’t get you. For me now, I can change to a night meter for free. No cost.


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    Sleeper12
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    from_atozinc wrote:
    Don’t get you. For me now, I can change to a night meter for free. No cost.

    I've no idea of costs. It was your original post where you suggested a possible 200 fee that got me thinking about the new smart meters


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    from_atozinc
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I've no idea of costs. It was your original post where you suggested a possible 200 fee that got me thinking about the new smart meters



    It’s free to go to a night meter right now.
    The cost of 200 (So I have heard) can be for changing back to the standard 24 hour setup.........

    .........This is what I am trying to figure out, is this 200 cost to revert back a thing in the real world? Or just something the energia/SSE/Airtricity etc call centre staff are told to say when you are contemplating switching to a night meter.


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    Twister2
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    That seems to be the ballpark figure 200 for a change back

    It's ESBN that charge not the provider


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    from_atozinc
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    Twister2 wrote: »
    That seems to be the ballpark figure 200 for a change back

    It's ESBN that charge not the provider



    Right, so are you saying there is definitely a charge of about 200 to change back?


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    Twister2
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    from_atozinc wrote: »
    Right, so are you saying there is definitely a charge of about 200 to change back?

    Ya it's on table 5.1 ESBN charges

    Removal of NSH meter and timeclock 171+ vat


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    5500
    Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    On the subject of changing, has anyone paid for a change recently and had a smart meter installed? Need to have an old meter replaced/tails connected post rewire, but esbn customer service cant confirm if a smart or standard meter will be used as the replacement.


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    from_atozinc
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    Twister2 wrote: »
    Ya it's on table 5.1 ESBN charges

    Removal of NSH meter and timeclock 171+ vat

    Right. Flippin cod really.

    I’ve heard of people getting it waived etc though.


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    Twister2
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    from_atozinc wrote: »
    Right. Flippin cod really.

    I’ve heard of people getting it waived etc though.

    I presume it goes on your providers bill then, the ESBN charge.
    I'm guessing that's how it works

    Same for nightsaver changing back to standard

    The first change to nightsaver is free


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    from_atozinc
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    I got a night meter in today. Digital setup. It’s just 1 physical meter and you can scroll between day, night etc. See attached.

    There is No old school spinning wheel to show how fast you are using electricity.

    Also on the old one, you could see decimal places like 4.3 or whatever, this new only seems to show whole numbers. Or else I’m looking at it wrong.


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    from_atozinc
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    How much does it cost to run a tumble dryer for an hour?

    How do you go about doing the calculation?


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    0lddog
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    from_atozinc wrote: »
    I got a night meter in today. Digital setup. It’s just 1 physical meter and you can scroll between day, night etc. See attached.

    There is No old school spinning wheel to show how fast you are using electricity.

    Also on the old one, you could see decimal places like 4.3 or whatever, this new only seems to show whole numbers. Or else I’m looking at it wrong.

    Feel your pain !

    Missed the fractional counter on the old meter too :D

    What makes up for this to a certain extent is the LED on the meter. 1000 blips they say is one kWhr. If you have a stopwatch on your mobile ( I use a candybar Nokia:p for this ) for light loads you can measure the number of seconds between blips.

    For example if you measure 10 seconds between blips then you can reckon on 6 blips per minute or 360 blips per hour - which I gather looks like 360Whr to the meter :)

    For heavy loads try to count the number of blips per 10 or 20 seconds and work from that.

    Do you heat water with an immersion ? If so have you got it on a time clock ?

    Have fun with your new D/N setup :D


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    from_atozinc
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    Hi. I got a new meter installed but presume it doesn't really matter for the question I am about to ask.

    Attached is a pic of the old meter (don’t have new meter pic handy). I bought one of these owl electricity monitor things?

    On what cable do I attach the clamp to?


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    meercat
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    from_atozinc wrote: »
    Hi. I got a new meter installed but presume it doesn't really matter for the question I am about to ask.

    Attached is a pic of the old meter (don’t have new meter pic handy). I bought one of these owl electricity monitor things?

    On what cable do I attach the clamp to?

    The brown cable.


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    from_atozinc
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    meercat wrote: »
    The brown cable.


    I’m kinda colour blind. Is brown the one on the very right?
    Or the one coming from pipe at bottom?


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    2011
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    from_atozinc wrote: »
    I’m kinda colour blind. Is brown the one on the very right?
    Or the one coming from pipe at bottom?

    Either the brown or the blue. It won’t matter which as they both carry the same current.


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    jprboy
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    from_atozinc wrote: »
    Hi. I got a new meter installed but presume it doesn't really matter for the question I am about to ask.

    Attached is a pic of the old meter (don’t have new meter pic handy). I bought one of these owl electricity monitor things?

    On what cable do I attach the clamp to?

    Where did you get the Owl device and how much?

    Thanks.


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    from_atozinc
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    jprboy wrote: »
    Where did you get the Owl device and how much?

    Thanks.


    Hi. I got it from eBay and from a seller in the U.K. all in 20 Euro. A decent bargain. They can be up to 40 etc.

    Also keep an eye on Adverts.ie


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    meercat
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    5500 wrote: »
    On the subject of changing, has anyone paid for a change recently and had a smart meter installed? Need to have an old meter replaced/tails connected post rewire, but esbn customer service cant confirm if a smart or standard meter will be used as the replacement.

    ?


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    crossmolinalad
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    Twister2 wrote: »
    Ya it's on table 5.1 ESBN charges

    Removal of NSH meter and timeclock 171+ vat

    Plus the costs to get a cert to show consumer unit is save connected to the other unit or is removed
    They wont just remove the NSH meter
    Have here the same problem need a cert for removal


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    DrumSteve
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    Smart meters are rolling out, better off waiting for the install than paying to get it changed out.


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    from_atozinc
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    Got my night meter installed a few months back.

    Have been charging car and all good.

    Overnight has the night rate times switched from midnight to 9am (as opposed to 11-8am?)


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    jprboy
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    Yes


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    Water John
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    Smart meter installed here, in Cork, two weeks ago by TLI on ESB contract. He changed the box as well as it was leaking.


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