Night Rate ESB meter

from_atozinc

Hi

Can anyone tell me if there is a cost involved in switching from a day/night meter back to a standard meter.

Ive heard it may be as much as 200 euro, but not sure how true this is.
Im not sure why there would be a cost anyway, there is no physical work needed (I think)

The physical work would have happneed when installing the extra night meter whenever it was requested, and this install is free, as far as I am aware.
You would imagine any charge here would be at the time of install of the night meter............................not to move away from it

Twister2

Do you mean separate night meter or day/night single meter

As far as I recall there was a charge to change back from day/night

I think maybe not with the separate night meter, not sure

Twister2

Prices will be on the website anyhow

from_atozinc

Twister2 wrote: »

Do you mean separate night meter or day/night single meter

As far as I recall there was a charge to change back from day/night

I think maybe not with the separate night meter, not sure

hi, a seperate night meter I think

on a 2004 house, so presume its still the old anlaog meter

Sleeper12

We are all getting smart meters over the next two years or so. They will be removing night and day meters then. It might be worth waiting for them to remove the meter free of charge.

I wonder if there is any way to find out if your area will be getting replacement meters soon?

EDIT Maybe this helps https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/esb-smart-meters-locations-2019

Cork & Midlands

from_atozinc

Sleeper12 wrote: »

We are all getting smart meters over the next two years or so. They will be removing night and day meters then. It might be worth waiting for them to remove the meter free of charge.

I wonder if there is any way to find out if your area will be getting replacement meters soon?

EDIT Maybe this helps https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/esb-smart-meters-locations-2019

Cork & Midlands

Right. So with this new initiative, the chance of having to pay to revert back to the standard meter may not be valid anymore. I hope.

Sleeper12

from_atozinc wrote:

Right. So with this new initiative, the chance of having to pay to revert back to the standard meter may not be valid anymore. I hope.

That's my thought yes. The question is is it cheaper to pay now to remove it or to wait & get it done for free. I think if you are in Cork or the Midlands you are better off waiting.

from_atozinc

Sleeper12 wrote: »

That's my thought yes. The question is is it cheaper to pay now to remove it or to wait & get it done for free. I think if you are in Cork or the Midlands you are better off waiting.

Don’t get you. For me now, I can change to a night meter for free. No cost.

Sleeper12

from_atozinc wrote:

Don’t get you. For me now, I can change to a night meter for free. No cost.

I've no idea of costs. It was your original post where you suggested a possible 200 fee that got me thinking about the new smart meters

from_atozinc

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I've no idea of costs. It was your original post where you suggested a possible 200 fee that got me thinking about the new smart meters

It’s free to go to a night meter right now.
The cost of 200 (So I have heard) can be for changing back to the standard 24 hour setup.........

.........This is what I am trying to figure out, is this 200 cost to revert back a thing in the real world? Or just something the energia/SSE/Airtricity etc call centre staff are told to say when you are contemplating switching to a night meter.

Twister2

That seems to be the ballpark figure 200 for a change back

It's ESBN that charge not the provider

from_atozinc

Twister2 wrote: »

That seems to be the ballpark figure 200 for a change back

It's ESBN that charge not the provider

Right, so are you saying there is definitely a charge of about 200 to change back?

Twister2

from_atozinc wrote: »

Right, so are you saying there is definitely a charge of about 200 to change back?

Ya it's on table 5.1 ESBN charges

Removal of NSH meter and timeclock 171+ vat

5500

On the subject of changing, has anyone paid for a change recently and had a smart meter installed? Need to have an old meter replaced/tails connected post rewire, but esbn customer service cant confirm if a smart or standard meter will be used as the replacement.

from_atozinc

Twister2 wrote: »

Ya it's on table 5.1 ESBN charges

Removal of NSH meter and timeclock 171+ vat

Right. Flippin cod really.

I’ve heard of people getting it waived etc though.

Twister2

from_atozinc wrote: »

Right. Flippin cod really.

I’ve heard of people getting it waived etc though.

I presume it goes on your providers bill then, the ESBN charge.
I'm guessing that's how it works

Same for nightsaver changing back to standard

The first change to nightsaver is free

from_atozinc

I got a night meter in today. Digital setup. It’s just 1 physical meter and you can scroll between day, night etc. See attached.

There is No old school spinning wheel to show how fast you are using electricity.

Also on the old one, you could see decimal places like 4.3 or whatever, this new only seems to show whole numbers. Or else I’m looking at it wrong.

from_atozinc

How much does it cost to run a tumble dryer for an hour?

How do you go about doing the calculation?

0lddog

from_atozinc wrote: »

I got a night meter in today. Digital setup. It’s just 1 physical meter and you can scroll between day, night etc. See attached.

There is No old school spinning wheel to show how fast you are using electricity.

Also on the old one, you could see decimal places like 4.3 or whatever, this new only seems to show whole numbers. Or else I’m looking at it wrong.

Feel your pain !

Missed the fractional counter on the old meter too

What makes up for this to a certain extent is the LED on the meter. 1000 blips they say is one kWhr. If you have a stopwatch on your mobile ( I use a candybar Nokia:p for this ) for light loads you can measure the number of seconds between blips.

For example if you measure 10 seconds between blips then you can reckon on 6 blips per minute or 360 blips per hour - which I gather looks like 360Whr to the meter

For heavy loads try to count the number of blips per 10 or 20 seconds and work from that.

Do you heat water with an immersion ? If so have you got it on a time clock ?

Have fun with your new D/N setup

from_atozinc

Hi. I got a new meter installed but presume it doesn't really matter for the question I am about to ask.

Attached is a pic of the old meter (don’t have new meter pic handy). I bought one of these owl electricity monitor things?

On what cable do I attach the clamp to?

meercat

from_atozinc wrote: »

Hi. I got a new meter installed but presume it doesn't really matter for the question I am about to ask.

Attached is a pic of the old meter (don’t have new meter pic handy). I bought one of these owl electricity monitor things?

On what cable do I attach the clamp to?

The brown cable.

from_atozinc

meercat wrote: »

The brown cable.

I’m kinda colour blind. Is brown the one on the very right?
Or the one coming from pipe at bottom?

2011

from_atozinc wrote: »

I’m kinda colour blind. Is brown the one on the very right?
Or the one coming from pipe at bottom?

Either the brown or the blue. It won’t matter which as they both carry the same current.

jprboy

from_atozinc wrote: »

Hi. I got a new meter installed but presume it doesn't really matter for the question I am about to ask.

Attached is a pic of the old meter (don’t have new meter pic handy). I bought one of these owl electricity monitor things?

On what cable do I attach the clamp to?

Where did you get the Owl device and how much?

Thanks.

from_atozinc

jprboy wrote: »

Where did you get the Owl device and how much?

Thanks.

Hi. I got it from eBay and from a seller in the U.K. all in 20 Euro. A decent bargain. They can be up to 40 etc.

Also keep an eye on Adverts.ie

meercat

5500 wrote: »

On the subject of changing, has anyone paid for a change recently and had a smart meter installed? Need to have an old meter replaced/tails connected post rewire, but esbn customer service cant confirm if a smart or standard meter will be used as the replacement.

?

crossmolinalad

Twister2 wrote: »

Ya it's on table 5.1 ESBN charges

Removal of NSH meter and timeclock 171+ vat

Plus the costs to get a cert to show consumer unit is save connected to the other unit or is removed
They wont just remove the NSH meter
Have here the same problem need a cert for removal

DrumSteve

Smart meters are rolling out, better off waiting for the install than paying to get it changed out.

from_atozinc

Got my night meter installed a few months back.

Have been charging car and all good.

Overnight has the night rate times switched from midnight to 9am (as opposed to 11-8am?)

jprboy

Yes

Water John

Smart meter installed here, in Cork, two weeks ago by TLI on ESB contract. He changed the box as well as it was leaking.

adrian92

Sleeper12 wrote: »

We are all getting smart meters over the next two years or so. They will be removing night and day meters then. It might be worth waiting for them to remove the meter free of charge.

I wonder if there is any way to find out if your area will be getting replacement meters soon?

EDIT Maybe this helps https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/esb-smart-meters-locations-2019

Cork & Midlands

Thanks for that info.
I didn't know that meters would be replaced in a year or two